Luigi's Manifesto
Luigi's Manifesto
Read the manifesto the media refused to publish
“To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country. To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn't working with anyone. This was fairly trivial: some elementary social engineering, basic CAD, a lot of patience. The spiral notebook, if present, has some straggling notes and To Do lists that illuminate the gist of it. My tech is pretty locked down because I work in engineering so probably not much info there. I do apologize for any strife of traumas but it had to be done. Frankly, these parasites simply had it coming. A reminder: the US has the #1 most expensive healthcare system in the world, yet we rank roughly #42 in life expectancy. United is the [indecipherable] largest company in the US by market cap, behind only Apple, Google, Walmart. It has grown and grown, but as our life expectancy? No the reality is, these [indecipherable] have simply gotten too powerful, and they continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allwed them to get away with it. Obviously the problem is more complex, but I do not have space, and frankly I do not pretend to be the most qualified person to lay out the full argument. But many have illuminated the corruption and greed (e.g.: Rosenthal, Moore), decades ago and the problems simply remain. It is not an issue of awareness at this point, but clearly power games at play. Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty.”
Post got removed in .world for not being a "news source" even though Klippenstein is definitely a very established independent journalist, so trying again here I guess.
Watching whoever that dumb fuck who isn't Jon Stewart latch on ONE LINE of this and mock him for being "not qualified" was the most pathetic showing of former satirical programming just being state propaganda i've seen in at least 4 days.
That is literally a suicide note found on someone before he mustered the nerve.
i think this one (manifesto) is fake for obvious reasons. this one is real https://archive.is/7jUsF
it's way more coherentThat is not anything a heir to a 600 million dollar fortune would write. You have to ask yourself "Wtf", which story is real?
This guy is a reminder that health is the most important thing in life. He lost his health which led him to lose it all.
He lost it all because of capitalism.
He lost it all because of ISM.
he also had it all DUE TO CAPITALISM
With that being said, we don't don't get to pick our heros, they come as they. His work is what I judge him on.
We don't chose our family background. Many times class war leaders are part of the elites themselves but but at some point they see the reality and switch teams.
FDR was a disabled and I always assumed that his condition forced him to see the suffering of the working class so he sided with them. No peasant would ever be able to do what he did. He was the elite.
I see a lot of leftist political whores try to smear him based on his class... it is disgusting.
Tells you all you need to know about what sort of leftist they are.
damn is mario even a family friendly franchise anymore?
Post got removed in .world for not being a "news source" even though Klippenstein is definitely a very established independent journalist,
Unsurprising from .world
Man, I signed up at world because it sounded like the most official one, but there's so much fuckery constantly on this instance... I even donated at one point then stopped when they were trying to shut down instances talking about piracy. Wtf?
You can easily sign up at another instance and export / import your subscriptions and settings. The only thing you can't transfer is your old posts, afaik.
I'm glad their captcha was broken when I tried to sign up.
Come over to lemmy.zip :)
lemmy.ml is technically the most official instance, because it's run by the developers themselves.
My instance is great, the only issue I've ever had is that they don't defederate from some of the more shitty instances. Based on what you're talking about, you may appreciate that, though.
I guess I see the logic in simply blocking that on an app/browser level.
Reddit suppressing and removing all posts and even his account while Lemmy communities keep them all up. Feels good man
I was able to find this via the Wayback Machine. Not much, but something.
yes it does
This whole thing smells like horse shit. You hear so make stories about murderers ditching anything they had on them at the time of the crime. Rivers and lakes get dragged, forests are swept, every dumpster is turned upside down.
Yet, you're going to tell me homie was 300 miles away carrying everything he had still on him from the crime AND a literal confession note? Are they sure he wasn't waving air traffic controller sticks around on the freeway yelling, "IT WAS ME IT WAS ME"?
At the very least it seems incongruous with leaving the state afterwards. If he was that fatalistic about being caught why didn't he just use a normal gun and drop it afterwards while he waited for the cops? He literally made a suppressed weapon and had a complex exit plan. That doesn't match up.
Could have had another target on the list but also plans to do a full reveal if caught
This is by far the best explanation why he still had his "materials" on him like the gun, fake ID, tons of cash, etc. He wasn't done yet.
I was wondering hard too. If i had done this, i wouldnt want this to be the end of it. Its not enough, nothing will change. None would do it again in the next 100yrs. I would try to make sure I did as much as I could.
Manifest in a time released something a week after I don't reset the time (hence captured).guns n stuff hidden for the next job.
Out of interest, why do you think that?
It's often said that school shootings are more prevalent because the media has hyped these people up to be martyrs, etching their names into history and being revered by those that agree.
Your country is no shortage of poor, ill whackos with easy access to weapons. If this Luigi dude does end up being charged, or perhaps even go through some legal fuckery because juries side with him against the word of law, what makes you think that someone in a similar situation doesn't look at the next CEO on the list and shoot them in the back?
I'm actually surprised it took this long.
Being a tech guy, I was wondering if he had a deadman's switch set up to release something if he didn't make a check in. That's probably how I would go about it.
There are stories making the rounds of a YouTube channel in his name with two videos. One was something along the lines of "if you're setting this, I'm already captured", the other was set to premiere but the account got removed before it was public
what about his book review?
He believes he’s a martyr. Time will tell.
Just remember which instance let you read this, and which one wouldn't let you.
.ml doesnt need to host a bi monthly feud posts like .world does. Their moderator actions are all the advertisements we need. Make an account and export your settings today! Lemmy.ml
What instance can I go to, so that I can freely say pure capitalism sucks, pure communism sucks, China / Russia governments suck. USA / Israel governments suck, every Islamic government sucks.
Bottom line is that most governments / authorities are shit, but there are levels to everything. And some are clearly worse than others.
I side with the people 99% of the time and I want an instance that sides / protects people not governments or ideologies.
Where can I find this?!
It sounds like you lean anarchist? If so, I believe that https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/ is an anarchist instance?
Db0
small instances do this better
Your instance. That’s what is great about the fediverse is that if there isn’t an instance that meets your needs, you can host that niche yourself and still have access to the same content (assuming you can stay on good terms with the other instances)
Personally I don’t have a problem with Lemmy.world’s moderation choices but if I did, I could always self host. But quite frankly if I had to face the risk of hosting an instance, I’d probably make a lot of similar choices
I don't wanna get banned for saying China does bad things too lol
I'm on .ml and I've said plenty of critical stuff against China, the mods are chill and in general it's been a really solid community.
That being said, I'm a hardcore leftist, so even though as an anarchist, I am strongly at odds with many statist solutions, I agree with the vast majority of leftist underlying critiques of sociopolitical issues.
.ml sucks too. When I'll move, it'll be some super niche instance or self hosted.
I mean .world 100% sucks lol, and people should definitely move off it, but I'd also like people to move off .ml or any other general purpose instance since centralization on any one instance can cause issues imo. I'm considering switching off of .ee for the same reason. I think it makes more sense to have specific instances for specific things, so that the admins of one instance can have more domain specific knowledge ideally.
.world specifically does seem like they can't go more than a few weeks without some kind of drama though lol.
The .ml/tankie witch hunts on .world are what got me to jump. It's just exhausting.
This sounds like a written confession or statement to the police, after he's already in police custody. Not a "manifesto", which is something justifying your actions to the public and done before carrying out whatever it is.
I'm not buying any of this. Someone who went to so much trouble planning, executing, and getting away without a trace, isn't going to go out in public with a bunch of incriminating items on their person. The NYPD probably just picked this tip out of the thousands they got, and are making things fit after the fact.
I really find it to be quite absurd that people are still thinking this isn't the guy. This is probably the guy. My basis for that is basically just that the shooter had a 200 dollar peak design redditor backpack and a uniqlo packable jacket when he shot that guy, and those are both heavily techbro-coded fashion items. That's on top of all the internet history of this specific guy pretty much indicating that he's the guy. Back problems, leading to a several month long disappearance, after he turns 26, and is no longer on his parent's healthcare plan.
We can also look at it through the lens of just the assassination attempt itself. The news is saying they found either a 3d printed gun, or more commonly, a ghost gun (which I have not been able to find a consistent account of). In either case, that involves buying a mostly unregulated firearm upper, and then either finishing an "80%" pre-assembled lower with a drill press, or probably even a regular cordless drill, or just wholesale printing the entire lower of the gun yourself. Both of those, are also techbro-coded methods of obtaining a firearm. Compared to just buying a somewhat common firearm in a state where it's pretty easy to get a gun a couple months before, and then shaving the serial numbers off the gun, or just getting a gun off the black market, or stealing one from someone, which all seem maybe easier than going the ghost gun route.
In the video itself, we see him struggle to cycle the gun manually, due what is probably a combination of using subsonic ammunition, and his suppressor, which I'm assuming did not have a nielsen device, or, a booster. Those are devices that are meant to help browning-style tilting barrel designs cycle much more reliably. They also tend to cycle less reliably with heavier baffled suppressors compared to much lighter, quieter, disposable, and easier to produce wipe-based suppressors.
His research and meticulously planned operation also consisted of shooting this guy in the back, in front of a camera, while this guy walked to his hotel. That's a plan that has a high percentage chance of success, it's the same way that you'd see many mob hits happen, but does it strike me as something which is particularly complicated or out of character for this guy, if he had a couple months to cook something up?
Based on the entire description of that chain of events, that would probably indicate that this is a somebody that's had some amount of preparation but wasn't some kind of professional or overwhelming genius. It could be the case that they dug around online for thirty minutes, happened to find a guy that had both disappeared for a couple months, had medical problems, was a little bit more conspiratorial, or rather, had incoherent politics, and would be the kind of guy who would dress in a peak design backpack and in a uniqlo jacket, and was ALSO a guy which was exiting new york at that time via bus. They would then have to plant evidence on him, which cops are known to do, but that's all, legitimately, entirely possible. Is it more likely than this being the guy, based on everything we've seen from the video?
I would say no, probably not, this is probably the guy.
My basis for that is basically just that the shooter had a 200 dollar peak design redditor backpack and a uniqlo packable jacket when he shot that guy, and those are both heavily techbro-coded fashion items. That's on top of all the internet history of this specific guy pretty much indicating that he's the guy. Back problems, leading to a several month long disappearance, after he turns 26, and is no longer on his parent's healthcare plan.
The number of black-haired white guys who wear this clothing, are interested in tech, had health problems, and have been screwed over by insurance companies isn't a small number. There's probably thousands of them in any given US city.
You are doing the thing where the media is all pointing at a single person, and trying to convict them based on non-material-evidence factors: clothing, blurry pictures, ideology, "motivation", etc. None of those things link this person to the crime scene. If they showed you all the other tips and candidates they've gotten in the past week that fit the bill, I doubt you'd be so sure.
Well put. A lot of people have built this guy up as a criminal mastermind, and his arrest pokes a giant hole through that.
Very much agree on the fact this is no way a manifesto and shame on all the news outlets using such a clickbaity word.
I had a similar vibe but can't quite put my finger on it though.
To the Feds,
This intro just does not feel right, He sounds like fedi/reddit poster with that intro. I have not seen a lot of his social media post but he did not have that tone in his posts, at least not public ones.
There people around fedi who I can see saying it though lol. As if he feds, searched online on how to sound like a plausible corpo hater. "parasite" is also a nice touch, I see that shit daily on here...
Also, why the fuck would this man give two fucks to discuss the tool for the job. I was on the fence but I am not longer buying it is his work or if he even did it.
In country with 330m people, there must have reviewed many fact patterns that could have fit like glove purely from mathematically probably. His disappearing is likely made him an easy target, now it is on him to account for his where abouts.
He sounds like fedi/reddit poster with that intro
I dont want to get my hopes up. I think dude may just be tired and hurt, ready to be done.
I've seen a lot of folks posting FBI setup but, what about a glory seeker? Someone who was like damn, I look like that dude, and got his shit together to go "be found". Been plenty of copy cats and false confessions for all kinds of crazy crimes in the past.
I think it's real. Though, it is kinda suspicious they were able to respond so fast to a McDonald's tip; could've been parallel construction.
Evidently I am the first to face it with such brutal honesty
This is either disinformation or whatever asshole wrote this doesn't know US history.
You can still see the scars in the JP Morgan building in wall street from the horse drawn carriage bomb that was set against those greedy corporate assholes after the arrest of Sacco and Vanzetti in 1920
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wall_Street_bombing
We have a long history of defending against their violence
I can definitely see why someone not as well versed in anarchist history could believe that, or if they specifically meant against the insurance industry. Either way though, I think it's important for people to know about that history of violence that led to meaningful social reforms. So many Americans think that workers rights, civil rights, and everything short of the
abolishmentrebranding of slavery was won through voting or peaceful protests.Too many people believe that somehow a state has some divine morality granted to it, and justice can only happen within the confines of said state. No moral act can be carried out without the government sanctioning it, and any miscarriage of justice by the state is an abnormality.
There may be a monopoly on violence held by states against their people, but this doesn't give them some inherent right to be the ultimate arbiters of justice. Something being legal does not make it moral, and just because an act is illegal doesn't make it immoral.
Something being legal does not make it moral, and just because an act is illegal doesn't make it immoral.
Well said
1920? A horse drawn carriage bomb lol. Surely and clearly he was talking about modern day. Dudes 26, been remotely conscious for like 15 years maybe, people have grown complacent.
People are no more complacent in 2024 than they were in 1920. One major difference, however, is greater concentration of wealth and news outlets.
We used to have hundreds of anarchist newspapers in circulation. When was the last time you read an article written in your local anarchist newspaper?
We still have leftist collectives and many produce articles, podcasts, films, etc. But I think its harder to come across it today than when news was printed on physical paper
Against the healthcare insurance industry?
I mean if you want to get extremely specific then, maybe. I would be surprised if this was the first defensive violent action against the private healthcare industry.
That would make a good article, to document this history...
[indecipherable] is the new [redacted]
I think there's something else being withheld. This might sound a bit crazy, but there have been a lot of 286s involved. Denial code 286, Breloom, 286 tweets, following 286 people, caught 286 miles away from the scene of the crime, and the manifesto is not 286 words, but 262?
I suspect the second indecipherable is because they did not want to give the public a "name" to unite behind, kinda like how democrats started calling enemies "weird".
Imagine if he called them "assholes" or smth, the public would latch onto that and use it as a rallying standard.
Not like we needed help calling them that, and his calling them "parasites" earlier seems at least slightly less generic and more cutting
I think it's "4th".
.world should not be removing articles from Ken Klippenstein. I detest the man for his methods and indiscretion (not necessarily in this instance), but he does post the facts as he receives them.
Thx for reminding me to delete my .world account.
Yeah, I don't actually know too much about him, this is the first I've seen of him afaik (though I definitely could have read his stuff and not realized), but as far as I can tell he's pretty consistent with factual reporting. It did strike me as weird it was removed, like I get it's technically a substack page and all, but it's not like some random guys blog, and it's still the only reputable source for the full manifesto I've seen.
he is a credited gen y journalist, he deff tries to do proper reporting and he does stories on his own instead of most of other media who just shill whatever owner said to shill that day.
Amazing news on .world have no problem having endless corpo proaganda blasted on there shilling owner talking points. God forbid working class gets some critical news coverage though.
They remove anything that causes too much moderation to be needed. (By that I just mean reports people make on other comments)
I don't see any facts in this article. I see a lot of statements with 0 evidence
Interesting read. However this turns out, not a huge fan of .world removing it, similar to the centralized sites you'd expect to suppress stuff. Stopped following their news thread for this reason as I don't need my information moderated- can do that myself.
Is that 3 or 250 page copy?
Asking for a friend.
I have a weird feeling they are making this shit up as they go.
The info drip drives us where they want us talking at every turn.
Nobody is talking about the dead parasite or the corruption. I think they are looking for this to blow over.
Job is done, back to work peasants you got premiums to pay. Don't ya?
The reporting I saw stated it was a 250-some-odd WORD manifesto, not pages.
I don't know what's so suspicious. The manifesto's pretty clear and* to the point and what I'd expect. Certainly not what I'd expect some leech to make up to make him look crazy.
Making it up? Lemme tell you a secret:
If you want to fight this the easiest way is to blow the man up into legend status. Create a martyr. Play their game. Imo at least.
I am starting to lose faith that Luigi is the Adjuster tbh
Media is working too hard to protray Luigi as him but so far if we look at verifable facts:
- parasites gets done in NYC
- five days letter they apprehend a young man in PA
- Who happens to have the entire conviction start park on his person (could easily be planted by them) along with that YouTube video which they could have easily done to spice things ip Up
- he has been missing for a few weeks allegedly and has had health issues (this part is where they set him up so viable lead)
But where is the evidence that he actually did the job?
Yeah this just sounds batshit
To the Feds, I'll keep this short, because I do respect what you do for our country.
Interesting to point this out. This seems more like a liberal radicalized out of circumstance than a Marxist or Anarchist. I wonder what his course would have looked like had he channeled his energy into organizing and reading theory, would he have made the same decisions, or not?
Yeah based on his goodreads and other social media he's definitely more of US style Libertarian or conservative. He tweeted some stuff about wokeness and DEI, some of the new athiesm junk about how athiests replace Christianity with worship of social issues, and seemed to like Elon Musk. He also didn't seem to be fully committed to the ideology though, he had real criticisms of Jordan Peterson and he seemed to be an environmentalist. He honestly just kinda seems like a normal, if privileged, person. He has a mix of political ideas, some which don't necessarily mesh, and is willing to criticize some of the people he agrees with.
But if anything him being someone who seemed to like CEOs, who grew up pretty wealthy, being radicalized by the industry is kinda a stronger message about how unless you're one of the corporate elite you don't matter to them.
You know… as common as it is to label and group and classify people online, I just don’t think that generally works the vast majority of the time.
Usually people acting for ideological reasons have ideological motivations.
Hear hear. Hear fuckin' hear.
US neo libertarians are taught by the Koch brothers to despise all government regulation and enforcement agencies, except those that keep poor people from taking rich people's money
Sounds like a fake "confession" he was corrected into signing to me.
I think the word was coerced and got corrected to corrected. Just a heads up! Also agree with you.
o7
There goes my heroooo
I appreciate you posting this here. I had not read a manifesto yet that sounded like it was legitimately his. This one seems internally consistent at least, as if it was written by a real person. Can never be sure.
In this one, it seems there's nothing for me to dislike, which makes me believe it was written by a real person, but even more cautious about believing it. I had, until now, only heard negative (from my pov) things about him. It is unusual for something like this to leak. The media tries it's best to keep the lid on contagious ideas. (Another reason to be incredulous)
I expect the media will try to give both sides something to dislike about him, to discourage idolatry and imitation. Feels like some 1984/Brave New World style social engineering to me.
I have my reservations about the klippenstein's, but if he has the manifesto, why not post a scanned copy?
the Klippensteins? there's only Ken...
[edit: I assume that] It was leaked as a transcription.
Otherwise there would be a scan and we would all be debating what the unintelligible words/passages are based on their appearance. People would be trying AI to decode it. (Likely, unsuccessfully)
What reservations please? Not aware...
Just exactly how is this a "manifesto?"
They are framing him in the same camp as uncle Ted.
The issue I don't think they realized that people might take it "the wrong" way haha
If this is really his letter, which I assuming it is since it is too level headed and direct, this can't be good look for parasite class.
Mark my word the term "parasite" will modded going forward as a hate speech. I just feel the censorship and bans on all main stream socials with corporate advertisers at least.
a written statement declaring publicly the intentions, motives, or views of its issuer
How long until someone uses the Hello Mario Framework or similar to build a game where Luigi battles US healthcare, pharma, and oil execs?
"Lock In, Luigi" or something, I'm thinking? Maybe "Luigi's Ghost Gun Go-Round" or even something more akin to Duck Hunt? Hmm... "Greedy Fuck Hunt"?
Greedy Fuck Hunt 😂
That's probably even easier to build, just a few mods to this:
https://github.com/MattSurabian/DuckHunt-JS
I heard there was more, about his mother’s back pain and dealing with the insurance for that.
Yeah that one's unconfirmed but also very likely just entirely made up by someone
Thanks, that is what I had heard (heard as in someone reading it to me).
He also wrote this apparently. Unless it's fake. I'm having trouble verifying it.
A lot of people are having trouble verifying it. I'm personally considering it fake until proven otherwise.
Would be super interested if anyone has a bead on the first share, 'cause it's everywhere now.
That one has a few things about it that make it suspect. No way to definitively say it's fake obviously, but stuff like the drive to the Aquarium, which would presumably be from Maryland to California, so like 40 hours straight worth of driving, being done by someone who had a bad back seems at least kinda unlikely. Like I said it's not impossible it came from him, but I'd treat it as unlikely personally.