This is my philosophy too. If you're gonna do it then there's no harm in doing something fun first, and if it's still bad tomorrow you can finish it then. Having suicide as an option always on the table is a bit freeing, honestly. Momento mori and all that.
Religion might be right and you end up in the bad place
With modern life being as it is, we would be screwed either way in most religions. Everyone is probably breaking at least a couple of dozen rules in every religion.
Even if you just need to follow a central "be kind"-rule - how kind is it to buy stuff on Amazon, packed and delivered by wage slaves, which was imported from China (which may include child or slave labour) [or some US states for that matter] while also hurting the environment in the process.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
Yeah, the biggest 3 links to meaning are our social connections. Children, partner, and pets. Close family/cherished friend can replace one of the three.
I'm not going to pretend it's a good answer because it cuts in many directions, but the following has been my thinking on this:
Because if you have nothing to live for, you have nothing holding you back from taking massive risks. Take the massive risk over your own life. Suicide can come later, once you've done something risky and cool first that requires a meatsuit. As far as we know you only get one of those, and there's far more than you might think that only requires one of 'em and infinite risk tolerance.
Not comfortable with the risk? Why, if you have nothing to live for? Tease that out and you can work in the other direction.
Rob a bank, stowaway on a container ship, free climb a mountain or skyscraper, take out a bunch of loans and spend it on whatever, scam a bunch of dangerous people, the sky's the limit. I'd actually say think bigger.
Life is the only thing a human is guaranteed to have - and, as far as I’m concerned, we only get it once. To finish it early seems a terrible waste. It’s the only thing we’ll ever get to do. Might as well give it a bit of a go… it’s not like it goes on for ever, anyway.
Losing someone to suicide sucks. I'm willing to bet there is at least one person in your life who would be sad (or perhaps devastated) if you suddenly died. Even if it means continuing on while unhappy, don't put that person through such an ordeal.
Depression is a temporary condition. It feels like it'll last forever and that life can never go back to the way it was, but that's not true. It might change you, and that change might be for the worse, but you can escape it. You can. It's hard, but it'll be worth once you're on the other side.
Start by seeking professional help. There are affordable (and, depending on your area, perhaps free) options out there. Then, change how your mind thinks. Don't let those thoughts rule you. Fight them! You can do it!
The fact that you immediately jumped to depression seems like you didn't even think about the question.
There is literally no reason to live, we've made that all up. That's not depression, that's reality. Pushing fundamental questions into a pathological corner is condescending.
Call me crazy, but typically when someone asks for reasons to not kill themselves, depression is involved. Maybe OP was just starting conversation, but given the question and the increasing rate of people struggling with depression, I thought I'd offer my thoughts. I don't believe this answer was condescending.
If you take your own life, things will never get better. It's not going to be all sunshine and rainbows if you don't, but it can get better. Ending your life removes all possibility of any good thing ever happening. But you'll never find out if you're not here to see it.
It's a dark take to have, but it's just not worth it to cut the wire here. It can be hard, and things may seem bleak, but as long as you're still here, there's still a chance for life to get better, it often does, and it's a chance worth fighting for.
It's easy to be caught in the here and now, but you can't predict the future even if it feels like it. Take the time you've been given and use it. All ending your life will do is end the chance for better things.
The other thing is it's not a release. Religion or not, whatever your beliefs, there's no sudden wave of freedom, or drop of stress. Overwhelmingly reports of someone who attempted or was brought back end with them regretting it or not wanting to give up at the last second.
Life is precious, not because it's good or because there's some holy significance to it, but because you only get to do it once. You can fall in love again, find friends again, join communities, see the sun, help the world, help your neighbors, play video games, whatever. You can always do those again.
But you only get to live this life one time. Fill out that story until you run out of pages. Don't leave the book half finished. If you're alive, there's hope.
Life is experienced only by those who live it. The thing that keeps me not going through with it, is literally FOMO. As much as life is filled with things that suck, and things that I hate, I know there is the very real possibility that something new will come along that I will have regretted not getting to experience.
When I remember the things that I have experienced since the time I tried to kill myself I'm high school, I am glad I didn't. I would've regretted not making the new friends I did, and meeting the love of my life, and all of the the great times I've had, even though the shitty times that drove me to the edge, still persisted.
When I remember the things that I have experienced since the time I tried to kill myself in college, I am glad I didn't. I would've seriously regretted missing out on the freedom of independent living, and the parties with friends, and precious memories I've made in that time.
When I remembered the time I tried to kill myself after loosing my 3rd job in a row, and hanging on the edge of poverty for just one too many times, I'm glad I didn't. I would of seriously regretted missing out on buying my first house, and never getting to meet my baby girls.
When I think now, that life is shit, and not worth continuing, I remember those past times and know that it was impossible to know what could've been ahead of me, and how glad I am I stuck around to find out. So I keep on struggling through, because I know that there's bound to be some unkown thing, at some unknown time, that I will definitely want to be around to see.
Good things can't happen anymore. You might also say that bad things can't happen either, but if it's over then there's no opportunity at all. Life can change as long as it's there.
First reason: because things can and probably will get much better. Joy in life comes from the little things. That sounds cliche but it's true. If I could talk to my 14 year old self, who was severely depressed to the point of trying (and thankfully failing) to take his own life, I would tell him about the next 20-ish years. Even though much of it will be hard, it will still be good. And he will grow in ways and get to experience things that he can't even begin to imagine. That's one thing I'm glad he failed at.
Second reason: because believe it or not, you will leave a giant crater in the life of someone (or multiple someones) where you once existed.
My great grandpa hung himself in 1929. That's all I know about him aside from his name. I never met my grandpa (died of cancer) but I remember my dad telling me a little about the impact it had on his dad, who was about 15 at the time of his father suicide.
Long story short, my grandpa basically stopped growing emotionally at 15. He was a teenager who was very suddenly thrust into the role of an adult.
I don't know what was going on with my great grandpa that led him to take his own life. I do know that what he left behind was a disaster. Including three generations of trauma, manifesting itself as a cycle of physical, verbal, and emotional abuse. He effectively destroyed his children who proceeded to pass that destruction all the way down to me.
If you've never watched Ted Lasso which I highly recommend, one of overarching themes is Ted's difficulty dealing with his father's suicide, which occured when Ted was 15. It's a light hearted show overall but there are a few scenes that really hit right in the feels.
Even if you don't have kids, there are people who's lives will be permanently altered for the worse by your untimely death. Some will blame themselves, wondering what they could have done to prevent it.
A lot of life is about perspective.
I have a checklist, of things that make life worth it for me. They're gonna vary from person to person, obviously, but when I get super depressed, I go through my checklist in my head.
I have cats that depend on me and I value their wellbeing.
I have relationships with people I care about and want to see. (and kids I want to see grow up)
There's still things I want to learn, places I want to see, and things I want to do.
Small things, too, like wanting to see the end of a show or enjoy a favorite food. Life has it's hardships, but it also has a lot of things we get to enjoy - and I want to be strong enough to live through the hardships to enjoy the good things. Idk man it all probably sounds kind of cheesy, but watching the sunset brings me a lot of joy. Life doesn't have to be perfect to be worth living.
I can tell you with absolute certainty that when it’s no longer a choice, you’ll want to be alive.
So don’t try to sudoku yaself. You would likely severely regret the decision as your life is ending.
Life can be really hard at times, but it can also be really good at times. Time is fleeting. Life is the good and the bad. Without the bad times, you wouldn’t be able to feel how good the good times are.
Whatever you’re going through, take care of yourself during this time, and you’ll come out okay.
R. Buckminster Fuller asked that same question as he contemplated throwing himself into Lake Michigan. He was broke, in debt, jobless with a wife and small family.
The only thing he REALLY had was life insurance, which made him worth more dead than alive.
His experience is worth reading:
tl;dr - He made a wager with himself that there was some larger purpose to his life. He went on to hold 28 patents and became the inventor of the Geodesic Dome. Bucky Balls are named after him.
Simple: death will come, it is a guarantee you get by being born. So, unless your life is hell (diseases can do that easily, including mental ones) and it clearly won't end (or anyway not before you become broken beyond repair), why not see some life before it ends
I think my baseline for existence would be continuous pain and immobility so as long as I'm doing better than that I'm in the + column for remaining alive and embodied. I can walk, read, eat and drink, fuck, work, hear, see (kind of), touch things, listen to music, dance... Not gonna be able to do any of that without a body. So in the selfish way, I want to be alive to enjoy all that, it's well worth the pain of existence to me.
In the unselfish way, I know the difference between losing an old relative to old age, and a younger relative to suicide. The former doesn't hurt, you know they got a good run, can celebrate their life. The latter can really shatter the lives of everyone close to you, in a way that causes grief so lasting and physically and emotionally damaging. I wouldn't do that to anyone.
If you fail you'll live an infinitely worse life that isn't worth risking. And if you're going to make a rash decision then make one less rash like changing your entire name or applying to new jobs (amazon hires anyone) or dropping out of college
The MOMENT you do, inevitably the world will start getting better.
I would advocate for tuning out of reality over suicide. Move to the middle of nowhere, cut off internet, spend your days chilling and farming. You always have the option of reinterpretation after stuff improves.
Just about every single attempt to self-terminate stems from a systemic flaw or imbalance in the fragile human form. Pretty much always treatable. What seems logical now might seem silly later. Don't let irrational mentality run your life or your death.
Also, there are people who oppose you. Fuck those people. Your life ending would benefit them, therefor you can never die.
Somewhat, it seems reasonable for one to throw their life away if they come to the conclusion that it has no meaning or purpose yet they are constrained by human nature to search for it.
Camus argues that we should revolt against this and embrace life regardless of how meaningless it is, he uses Sisyphus as a comparison to the absurdity of all this, pushing the boulder up the hill and watching it fall back down again is the only life, a meaningless one, that Sisyphus knows yet he is still able to find purpose in it and revolt against the gods.
EDIT: I realise I've essentially paraphrased the Wikipedia article, so apologies
Camus is great, and the Myth of Sisyphus is definitely worth a read especially for those with existential despair but I don't think it's a panacea for the causes of suicide unfortunately.
I just want to lose my virginity... lmao. And then next best thing would be to have an actual relationship with someone instead of the abusive one I have with my alone time hand.
There are so many ways to be a hero for those around you. Why end your life when you could dedicate your life to help those in need? When you feel at your lowest, remember that there is someone, right now, who wants to know and believe in you and who hopes that you could do your very best to help them and others.
This is intended to be motivating. Instead of leaving a hole in the world, you could become a role model for others.
No one knows what happens when you die, things could get worse after death and in that case suicide is not a solution but rather a next step towards something even worse.
Given that it is currently impossible (as far as I know) to know what happens at death, the decision to suicide is an uninformed decision of tremendous magnitude.
If by killing yourself things get worse, what would be the next step?
Would you be in a better position to turn things around in the afterlife (assuming that there is one) or now in this life?
In summary, the reason why you should not kill yourself is because you do not know what will be the result of that action your death: your death is not a guaranteed solution to anything.
The one that kept me alive was that I couldn't make the world better for others, even in a small near-insignificant way, if I were dead. And it would be a bit pointless to die if everyone else is still going to live a life of suffering, especially as I can't be sure reincarnation isn't true.
What's been keeping me going for 20 years is VR. I truly believe we'll see full-dive VR in the next 30 years. I've been watching the progress for decades and the progress is staggering if you look at the big picture. Someday I'll be able to plug into a fantasy universe fully and slay dragons and have epic fantasy adventures. That's worth holding out for.
Because you have a destiny and a purpose way beyond your current comprehension and it is so much bigger than whatever misery you are feeling at any point in life. You have to find what that destiny and purpose is, believe me, because otherwise it would only be a massive opportunity squandered. Let me explain - you are the universe itself, so incredibly lucky to be able to come alive, with an opportunity to experience and appreciate the universe itself, there is a much bigger connection you have to the stars and to all that has life. If you are true to yourself and chase what your heart desires and remove all the noise, you will find your purpose, also called self-actualization. Not to mention you are living in the most comfortable, connected, beautiful time any species including humans was ever afforded. On separate note, it is very understandable and valid if you feel like shit given the current affairs, but if you believe me, this had to happen, and this only means better times will be here sooner rather later.
I have ten I could name and have named. The three that particularly would resonate with me are the idea I might still owe people things, there being less extreme ways of going about my issues, and the thought of what happens after death.
For me it's new Silent Hill games. Also the hope that one day i'll have friends and a partner. It might help if I left the house. Anyway, at the very least don't give up before you've really tried. Maybe I'm projecting but I hope this helps. Please don't kill yourself if you're thinking about it.
¡Think of the society that would crumble if everyone that was an impoverished wage slave ended their life! If even so much as a third to a fifth of the world's population did it, everything would be ripping apart at the seams pretty quick.
So you are supposed to experience a life of misery, so that others around you wont have to suffer momentarily(mostly after your death)? That doesnt sound like a good argument.
I want to outlive this shitty marriage I'm stuck in, sort out my finances, and take back my own life. I'm sick of being called a fucking cunt or accused of hiding money or all the shit he's saying to me, none of which is true. He's a malignant narcissist and I'm so tired of living like this.
Furry blankets. Great advances have been made in blanket technology in the past few years. Buy a couple synthetic microplush blankets that feel like rabbit fur and cocoon yourself in them. Always helps me. Even if that doesn't work for you, have hope! There is the hope that blankets may be even softer in the future.
There's always the next MCU movie coming out! You can grab a cheeky nandos afterwards with that one friend you've kept in touch with from school - but don't spend too much! Need to keep up on the mortgage for the new build starter home with astroturf lawns you are locked into paying for for the next 25 years.
Maybe this will finally be the year for sports team to win something!
I'll go with what I call the nihilistic safety valve: suicide is a deliberate act, which means you care how your life ends. It then follows that you care too much about something.
The only reason I haven't kicked it is because it would hurt people I love.
If there was some magical way to wipe the memory of my existence from all my friends and families minds I would be booking a first class ticket to hell immediately.
I've done pretty much everything I can reasonably do as someone in my tax bracket. All my other hopes and dreams cost too much and/or seem unlikely to happen at any point in the future so I may as well check out.
To be clear I am not actively suicidal right now, but I really think we ought to let people check out if they want to.
I didn't have a say in being brought into this world and it feels cruel to force people who don't wanna play anymore to stick around.
I see it as the height of cowardice. If you feel like your life is truly worthless, that it has no value at all, you're wrong. You can always give your life fighting for a cause you believe in. I continue to live, continue to train, because I wish to die on my feet in battle. If you're an American like me, I've a feeling that battle will be coming very soon. If you aren't...well the world's a pretty violent place right now with fascists rising everywhere you look. I'm sure you'll find a good moment to fight back. Who knows, you might even survive to win, and could change your world enough that hope can live in your heart once more.