What really worries me is if an AI were to go rogue and repeatedly fill in this form with plausible but false details.
https://www.ice.gov/webform/ice-tip-form
It'd waste hundreds of hours of brave ICE enforcer time, and clog up the internal system. Especially if it kept passing in duplicates, because the site specifically warms against that.
Glue a bb in the valve cap. It’ll let the air out with no sign of tampering. And happen angain every time they top it up.
Won't it loudly hiss air when they refill and screw cap back on?
It should slowly leak out if you tighten it just so. Probably depends on the valvecap design but generally the standard black ones will not leak rapidly even if they screw them all the way. A peppercorn or airsoft bb will also work.
I hear lentils work as well, possibly the most economic and eco friendly option.
Love that
That's brilliant!
Damn, you really need a different acronym for that.
I seriously thought this was some extremist fuckcars shit.I am so tired and also so stupid that even after reading your comment I still didn't get it. And then finally it clicked based on what you wrote.
Sigh.
Fuckcars aren't out to spare EVs over ICEs.
Fuckcars aren't, anti-oil folks might be
I'd rather see JSO cutting valve stems of ICE cars than obstructing traffic.
That's because it is. Originally at least
What is so extreme about limiting the movement of people that want to hurt innocent people?
I was confused for a second because I read "ICE" as internal combustion engine. In my defense: I'm not American and "ICE" is commonly used that way in Formula 1
Yeah I genuinely thought this was a FuckCars moment at first
Alternatively, you don't want to get busted for destruction of federal property:
https://www.autozone.com/tire-repair-and-tire-wheel/tire-valve-stem-core-remover-tool
These can be found as cheap as maybe $1, and by just removing the cap, you can simply unscrew the valve stem and walk away, replacing the cap. It does no long term or meaningful damage to the vehicle (unless they drive on the flats), and you can easily attach it to a key chain so you always have one with you.
I mean. If you think you couldn't be successfully prosecuted for smudging the paint intentionally, that's pretty naive. If the current admin wants to make an example of people caught fucking with ICE vehicles, your advice here isn't gonna make a meaningful difference. But I agree that this is a clever way to accomplish the goal without actual damage.
Oh 100%. I'm not going with this method primarily because I don't think I'm going to get prosecuted. The plausible defense is just a co-benefit. These fuckers would probably trying and prosecute if you even look at their rig.
No the valve stem remover approach is superior for several reasons.
First, foremost, it affords an attack of opportunity. Just throw this fucker on your key-ring. You do not need to plan shit. You aren't carrying something that could in anyway be construed as anything other than what it is. Its about as damning as having a bottle opener on your key ring and some one accusing you of drink driving because of it. You never know when inspiration and opportunity are going to take to the dance floor. Fortune favors the prepared mind.
Second, and almost as important as the first. Its subtle. I don't even need to take the whole core out. I can just loosen it a bit so it creates and almost inaudible leak. So what if it takes 10-20 minutes to fully deflate? Even better. I'm long, long gone by the time that its even noticeable. There is another below about using a knife or slashing a tire wall. Which is like, fine, but thats gonna be loud, its gonna be immediate, and its gonna be obvious. You aren't going to get two of that job done. And the valve stem puller? I can do it again. And again and again.
Always choose the right tools for your project.
I like the thought process but I still feel like those motherfuckers would get you for destruction of federal property if you got caught doing this.
Yeah and a not insignificant chance of them shooting you.
Alternatively, if you don't care about committing crime, slash the side walls instead. This is not repairable and much more expensive to replace a tire than a valve stem.
Stabbing the tyre itself is a gamble in terms of safety. Worst case the tyre basically explodes at you. cutting the stem doesn't risk the tyre zippering from a failure point, and is definitely the preferred method.
Feel free to stab and slice the sidewall once the pressure is released if you want to make the repair as expensive as possible
Its also potentially slower, and definitely louder. I've never tried to bust through the side wall of a tire, but I'm gonna bet that even the side wall material is as tough as.. well.. a tire.
To get around that you might consider a bit of engineering. Tires effectively "pull" the road beneath them. If there is anything between the tire and the ground, it gets pulled first until the ground is met
A simple piece of bent metal cut into a 90 degree bend, with a rugged metal hook on one side, could easily be wedged between the tire and the ground in such a way, such that when the vehicle is being put into motion again, the forward rotation of the tire "drags" the metal spur into, and across the side wall of the tire. Basically bend the metal to a 90, cut a hook into one side, and wedge it in parallel. Once they roll out, the wheel pulls the hook across the side wall using the force of the transmission, and you can be very far away.
Obviously this would take more work, foresight, and maybe a bit of engineering and testing, but its worth keeping in mind.
At the end of the day however, its almost trivial to throw a $2 tool onto a key chain you are already carrying.
You can always lentil-bean them too!
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Before I saw someone link ice.gov, I thought this meant "internal combustion engine" vehicles. I imagine many others will as well
This suggestion is going to get someone's Honda Civic disabled just because it has an engine lmao
Definitely don't do that. Rapidly letting all of the air out is VERY VERY LOUD. Instead, "do not" have a valve stem tool in your pocket and DEFINITELY do not barely loosen the stem core so that it leaks out slower but much more quietly, allowing you to be long gone when they "go flat".
I never knew someone who didn’t unscrew the the valve cap and avoided placing a small pebble or BB inside the cap before they didn’t screw the cap back on and then didn’t inadvertently introduce a slow leak which did not cause the tire to not become flat over a period of time.
I wonder if 'how to use a valve stem tool' will start being tracked in searches. I'm sure we are all on a list already, but can you imagine getting a new one created, just for us?
Bruh it’s literally just a screw driver that you use to twist the valve stem in or out. If you need a tutorial for that this may not be the best idea for you
Or you could put a small stone in the valve stem cap and twist it on just enough to slowly leak.
Takes a bit longer but it’s going to hit a while from now, maybe while they’re driving.
Read that on the internet, did you?
I believe I am, for all intents and purposes, the actual originator of that trick (in terms of publishing it on the internet, anyway). You have no idea how much it warms the cockles of my twisted little black heart to see that someone else posted this before I was able to.
As a fellow internetor, I find this extremely hard to believe, but if it is accurate, hell yeah, keep fighting the fight
Ya'll, ice enforcement vehicles have run-flat tires. This would work on a fleet car, but those aren't labeled, they're just cars.
Those are still only rated to go 50 miles once depressurized.
They also wouldn't even know their tires are flat until they start their car and get a tpms warning. Imagining them giving chase with depressurized run-flat tires is laughable too.A funny mental image, no argument here. But my point is that this isn't going to disable a vehicle like some people in here are fantasizing - a high speed chase might be ruled out, but they're still a very active threat, and they will easily be able to make it back to the motor pool with a minimum of damage. It's not much of an inconvenience.
Anyway don’t do this to old, low-end cars. If that person’s driving a 15 year old Corolla then they probably can’t afford a brand new Tesla. As much as we’d like everyone to drive an EV, single moms tend to prioritize feeding their kids.
I agree with your sentiment
In this case though, they're referring to the federal ICE, not internal combustion engine.
As it is currently, electric cars are worse for the environment because we all decided electric cars are basically the iphones of automobiles.
They are riddled with planned obscelence and proprietary hardware. Theres not a chance in hell these would last longer than 10 years.
Meanwhile ICE vehicles can easily last decades if well cared for
I'm not shilling ICE vehicles, but stating the fact we NEED right to repair before we adopt electric vehicles on a large scale.
Remember that capitalism WANTS our belongings to break, and WANTS to infinitely produce, and WANTS us to infinitely consume.
Is that true about all electric cars or are we talking about the American ones here? Honest question. I just am curious if companies like Nissan and BYD are doing the same thing.
Aside from the batteries needing to be replaced at some point, electric vehicles should far outlast their ICE counterparts. A significant breakthrough in batteries could make that well worth it.
I'd love a right to repair, but also prefer to just get rid of capitalism. Not that these have to be mutually exclusive.
Biggest problem is not the engine in the car but the car itself. So much energy must go into their production, maintenance and running compared to literally any other form of land transport. Take a train, ride a bike, walk, etc. hell even replacing the cars with electric mopeds would make a more significant impact. We need to be reducing the number of cars on the road and encouraging carpooling for commuters who don't have other options (aka mostly folks in rural areas who happen to also be those that will benefit the most financially from driving less)
Agreed. SUV'S though, independent of its age
Take the valves out of the valve stems.
If the screw in valve caps are accessible it would be unfortunate if a single lentil got shoved into the cap. That would cause a slow leak without physically damaging the tire.
I like this idea
The caps on the valve stem of my old bike had a tool in the opposite end for doing this moulded in. Small and convenient.
This is property damage, you'll get a misdemeanor if they want to charge you. Owning a tire valve core tool, removing the cores, and placing them on the tire is only criminal mischief. Don't forget to put the valve stem cap back on for more fun!
criminal mischief
Sounds like something a rascally little ragamuffin would do in a 1950s comic book 😄
Never throw a sharp piece of ceramic at a car window it will shatter the windows.
You will just end up paying for it.
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So yeah, you will end up paying for it.
How will they catch you if they have no valve stems on any of their vehicles?
They'll roll into a ball and chase you down sonic the hedgehog style.
Don't get hung up deciding between all the different suggestions in this thread. They are all good. Do whichever seems right in the moment. The important thing is that you do something. Every bit helps.
Or just don't cross the border illegally
I took a look at your profile. You have to be the most consistently downvoted person on Lemmy. You're either a troll, a propagandist, or one really lost individual. Almost all of your comments are xenophobic, misogynistic, racist, or some other form of anti-human speech. I don't know what you have to be like in your head to truly feel all the things you've said on here in your heart.
I feel bad for you.
You mean like these people?
Those Navajo need to go back where they came from, am I right?
Tell that to all the citizens and legal immigrants getting rounded up “by mistake”.
So many "illegals" are here after overstaying their visa, but you don't want to talk about them because they're mostly white and you're a racist.
i love destruction of property.
If you're going to destroy property, go arson a large business or something. Not your neighbors car lmao
The meme is about ICE the immigration control assholes, not ICE as in internal combustion engines. Your neighbours' cars are safe.
Unless they work for ICE
lol, shitty meme.
i realized that in the comments shortly after posting but oh well lmao.
it's referring to the other ICE. like, Immigration and Customs Enforcement
Now this is good info, lol
This is lib shit.
If you’re going to do bullshit that will get you shot, at least make it worth it.
Putting minorities in camps is fascist shit.
If you're going to do bullshit that will get you shot, at lease make it worth it.
What's your big idea?
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