When JD Vance and Tim Walz take the stage for next week's vice presidential debate, CBS News says it will be up to the candidates, not the moderators, to fact-check each other.
CBS News, hosting vice presidential candidates JD Vance and Tim Walz for the general election campaign’s third debate next week, says it will be up to the politicians — not the moderators — to check the facts of their opponents.
Walz just has to be himself and he will vastly outclass any pathetic attempts at appearing charismatic that Vance will be trying to conjure up.
Then Vance will repeat Trump's bullshit but more coherent and Walz will talk actual policy, probably appearing like the well-meaning teacher talking to the problem kid in class.
Those were some of the best moments though! When the Linsey Davis (moderator) deadpan said, “There is no state in this country where it is legal to kill a baby after it’s born." I fell off my couch laughing at Trump. He didn't know what to do, he was like a fish out of water.
I guess the GOP made it a deal breaker for the VP debate.
I know we had Watergate, but before that we had Hearst, and a bunch of other rich assholes using their money to spread propaganda, Murdoch isn't remotely creative, we just got complacent.
Extremists (hint: not Tim Walz) will be able to just spout lies the whole time, and rational, honest candidates: (hint: not JD Vance) will have to either let them get away with complete bullshit assertions, or spend part of their time doing the job of the moderators... This is why no one believes in Journalism these days...
Yeah but when you know what they're messaging on you can absolutely prepare for the worst ones like After Birth Abortion and Immigrants eating pets. Which were the two big fact checks.
Walz should quote Vance's statement about making things up and make the point that he will not be fact checking someone who is on record stating they will lie. Even make the minguistic point that while Vance said he'd "make stuff up" there is another word for that: "lie".
"So since my opponent has alresdy admitted they lie to reporters and about the price of eggs, I ask that the viewers tonight know that we can't trust anything he says is true. He has no credibility."
Vance isn’t Trump. He’s a wet noodle who can barely work his way through a sentence. Walz is an adorable teddy bear with claws.
It’ll be the cutest bloodbath we’ve ever seen, and we’ll all laugh about how the old guy from Minnesota made the dude wearing eyeliner get scared of giving trans school kids free lunches.
He's ok with pushing outright lies, and it's hard to keep up with all the right wing lies that are floating around. I hope Walz just starts calling them the liars they are instead of avoiding 'name calling'.
Vance isn’t much of a public speaker, and, up against a debate opponent like Walz (who is a great public speaker), Vance is pretty much fucked. He won’t have much of a defense but to pivot when confronted, and Walz is both clever and persistent. He’s also extremely charming, which Vance extremely isn’t, lol.
Vance is like a Dollar Store version of Trump. He looks like the same product, he tells the same lies, but the parts aren't all there. He's a grifter but he's not in the same league as The Donald, he even looks like he's in pain when he lies.
The fucked up part is that, since you can’t get cheaper than Trump, the knockoff is actually more expensive. Worse, Vance is also (somehow), dumber, poorer, less-popular, and more insecure. He’s also - unbelievably- worse with interactions with the public and with public speaking.
And we’re about to find out how bad he is at debate against a real politician.
Ya this is a dumb move by CBS because it compromises the legitimacy of the debate... But I know Tim Walz is going to wipe the floor with this couch fucker.
CBS is owned by Paramount Global who splits their "donations" between parties (heavier toward Democrats). Are we tired of being governed by corporations, yet?
I'm not looking forward to the day that Colorado loses Kyle but I am certainly looking forward to the day that he gets to moderate a presidential debate. Kyle is amazing.
I'm glad Amanda is for Democracy... But why is she (apparently) for embedding a landscape video inside her portrait video that doesn't fit on my screen, so now it's scaled down to 1/9th my TV's viewable area?
The whole intro part didn't add anything anyway, so it just made the viewing experience worse for no reason. That was frustrating. Still, every debate should be like that one.
Oh sure, tell the guy who basically said "We'll make up whatever facts we need to to get our point across!" when the whole pet eating debacle was debunked that he won't be fact checked... What could go wrong!?
Would they really have the time to fact-check the gish-gallop Vance will ejaculate on them? That's just not even feasible to get through the more egregious lies. He already said he just makes shit up. This will be the largest public face-time he will ever have (hopefully) and it all but guarantees he will shamelessly dial the horseshit up, if not just for sound bites.
"No facts checked" favors the opponent who has no real principles or policy to defend. It's like walking in the ring shotgun and the refs being like okay y'all on your own.
It's gonna be an absolute shit show and basically be a demonstration on how well can a liar Vance lie without being too obvious about being a liar. Best we can hope is that Walz will make it very obvious.
Hopefully there will be a second or 2 to slip in something of more substance while we wipe the shit off our faces.
Here is how you win. Prepare for lies. Do a quick fact check during each round and then punch him in the face with the truth. Laugh at him regularly for being a lying clown. Treat Vance with no respect.