There is currently a bill in the NY State Assembly to require background checks for the purchase of 3D printers

We'll see if that sticks, or if annoying rich car people get the reforms repealed. Hochul certainly seems pliable.

Political hackers.

The people have to be successful every time, but the political hackers have to successful just once.

The wilson2 with 80/20 aluminum. Not too hard.

Yeah. The Voron printers are a good example

was it even printed in new york? I mean im sure someone would never bring one in from jersey.

Background checks are a Federal requirement and any transfer requires it go through an FFL for just that reason There is no Gun Show Loophole

Ah yes, but then they'll just make it illegal to buy and own 2nd hand stuff.

I'm pretty sure there are actual industrial multicolor 3d printers that use an inkjet design

Well achtually........To be pedantic,

A 3D consumer grade printer is not a true 3D tool since it can only move on 2 axis simultaneously. If you watch your printer closely, as it finishes it's path around the xy plane, there is a tiny halt as it changes active plane from the xy plane to xz plane, lifts the nozzle, then flips the active back to the xy to go along it's merry way again to lay down the new layer. And no, the hot new scarf joint is still a single plane movement. Sometimes such machines are incorrectly referred to as 2 1/2 axis because they aren't true 3 axis.

Source: I'm an old retired toolmaker. Trust me Bro.

Sure if you want a safe, durable, powerful firearm. Problem is, a new 3 axis machining center will cost over $50,000US, requires 3phase power, a large air compressor, specialized knowledge, tools, and skills far beyond a Bambu A1 combo. And running expenses are more than you make in a day. Plus they weight 10,000lbs/4500kg.

It's not bloody likely you are going to get one into your 3rd floor apartment. Let alone find and outlet to plug into.

Not really.

There are gun parts that just can't be printed in plastic (reliably. There are proof of concept "all plastic except the firing pin" guns). But... because of how lobbyists tainted what few gun control laws we have, most of what makes a gun a gun CAN be printed and the rest can be bought as after market parts. That is why an incredibly common "ghost gun" is basically "print this and then go buy this replacement barrel and this baggy of parts to repair a glock".

Whereas a mill is great for those metal parts and you can theoretically mill an entire gun, it isn't going to be a gun you "want" to use and, odds are, you are going to need a lot more technical skills. And for stuff like "ghost guns" and the bootleg mods used in stuff like The Troubles? A 3d printer is MUCH more accessible and MUCH easier to make.

The reality is that neither is going to be effective in the case of a militia/uprising scenario (yes, you can print an AR-15 and it isn't THAT hard to reinforce the plastic to handle intermediate rounds. No, you can't print a hellfire missile or a predator drone or a tank). And for the purposes of a school shooting? Why print a gun when you can just grab daddy's glock out of his nightstand or junk drawer?

I'll also add on the reason why additive manufacturing is so loved by Industry. Milling is subtractive. You get a piece of stock and you cut it until it is the part you want. If you can guarantee said piece of stock is approximately the same dimensions every time, you can automate that. But getting a piece to those dimensions has a significant cost. 3d printing? As long as you clear out the build plate and sort of control the environment, it is the same operations every single time.

So to 3d print a glock? You go to one of the naughty sites, get the STL, make a few tweaks to your slicer, and start it (old Vice actually did a really good video on this). After that you wait until it is done, remove the supports, file the ever loving hell out of it, and you are ready to go blasting.

To mill a glock? You go to one of the naught sites and get the gcode. You then adjust that gcode to fit the dimensions of your piece of stock (or put in the time to make your piece of stock the dimensions the gcode is expecting...). You then do one process, stop it, move and remount the part precisely to expose the correct surfaces, and do the next process. And so forth.

and then they use that info to perform a credit check to ensure you’re not a “risk” to let into the store

"Papers, Please"

You can fuck someone up real good with a 2X4 ( pronounced two be fore ). Yet I haven't had to pay for a 2x4 ownership license.

You can also really fuck someone up with a big bag of shit...be it actual shit or rocks or concrete or just a bunch of shit from Good will (which could included actual shit). Where do we apply for big bags of shit at the DMB?

THIS IS AMERICA! You can't post stuff like this outside of a classroom!

Aww. He just died (David Lynch).

Yeah, a dude actually made a ton of money during a gun buyback, by making cheap pipe guns. The buyback program had a flat amount as the bare minimum, meant to entice people to turn their firearms in. It was like $200 minimum. He made dozens of $5 single-shot pipe guns, and turned them all in. And since they were technically functioning firearms, the program was forced to pay out.

Iron rust. Can be used with the aluminum you included to produce thermite.

Can't you make a pipe bomb out of PVC?

Ah. So I suppose that means California has successfully solved the skyrocketing cost of living and inflation, drought, rampant homelessness, and uncontrollable wildfires?

Doesn’t really matter if you can buy a gun in another state.

Ehhh typically the hood gunsmith is the guy with a 10 stack of braincells, who gets an ender and becomes decent enough with it to print a lower, slap a cheap nbs parts kit in it and finish it with an even-cheaper-than-PSA upper, and sell it for $200 to anyone he knows, rinse and repeat. Really makes his money printing switches and DIAS.

Still though, stupid law.

There's a 3D printer designed to also print itself, right?

Oi. You got a permit to tumble that aluminum foil?

You think those employees are paid enough to care?

Pfft.

I used to run a hardware store. We saw people assembling parts to build zip guns, potato cannons, pipe bombs, bongs, and other similarly related naughty projects all the time. You want to know what I did about it? I told them to let me know how it turned out.

Some boob from the ATF actually came by and tried to grill me real hard about ammonium nitrate at one point shortly after 9/11, and I had to tell him the same thing over and over again phrased many different ways until he finally got it, which was that we don't sell any fertilizer other than prepackaged blended consumer products, i.e. we did not sell any pure nitrates to anyone because we could not, because we didn't bother to carry them. End of discussion.

There was still plenty of crap available on my shelves to make a quite competent bomb if you knew what you were doing. But I didn't go into detail and I sure as shit wasn't going to go around teaching anyone.

Na the hardware store guys are chill

Just FYI, you can't buy a firearm at a dealer outside of your home state without having it shipped to an FFL holder in your home state. E.g., I can't drive to Family Firearms in Alabama from Georgia--where i live--to buy a gun. I have to order from them, and then have it shipped to an FFL near me, and then fill out the paperwork in my own state. In states that allow private, p2p sales (which is most of them), you could buy a firearm with cash from an individual, and they'd never do a background check or fill out a 4473.

Makes total sense

Well, maybe that’s your (US&A) problem, not 3d printers ;)

"People are 3d printing guns, should we require background checks on the required barrels/trigger mechanisms/ammo/magazines/rails etc?

No! We should require checks on the universal machine that can among a billion other things manufacture the plastic parts!"

One of those cuts into the profits of the gun manufacturers. Tell me which has the bigger lobbying group 😅.

their sale and possession is banned

How will I assassinate the Shogun now?!