Elon Musk Hilariously Claims Tesla Cybercab Will Be Available in 2 to 3 Years
Elon Musk Hilariously Claims Tesla Cybercab Will Be Available in 2 to 3 Years
Much like flying cars, Musk's robotaxi seems to always be two years away.
All he's doing is making worse trains and busses. This isn't innovative. Its a waste of fucken time. Make trains and busses.
Respectfully, I don't want to see any trains or buses made under his guidance.
Fun fact, there's a Tesla semi truck
I was going to give you the bad news, but apparently, Tesla didn't build the Giga Train
Also, BYD has made some really nice electric buses that are already in use in Los Angeles starting in 2015. His offering is not even competitive with options from 9 years ago.
We just have to apply Leon math. He says 2-3 years, so that's 7 to 10 in reality. It will also cost 5x what is expected and be missing 60% of features at launch. Plus it'll have new features, like it will have a steering wheel and peddles and require driver input every 15 miles or so.
And the 40% of features that are there will only work half the time.
And be locked behind a subscription
Cybercabs are two-seater vehicles
Just two seats why? Has this so-called genius ever taken a cab with friends ever?
That's hilarious. He gets rid of the driver, so now instead of an extra seat there's 3 less seats compared to a conventional cab.
This guy is so out of touch that he doesn't even know people that could tell him that.
Friends? What does that mean?
Dude famously hates being around other people, that’s why he hates transit so much. I’m sure in his mind it makes perfect sense.
Anyone else expecting a $100,000 "RoboBeast" in eight years and no mention of the $30,000 version ever again?
Like all techbros, Elon wants to paint himself as some kind of visionary genius. Instead they're all just anti-regulatory right-wingers who just poorly regurgitate better people's ideas. Elon's already run this playbook before so we know he's gonna do it again.
This is what I don't get, I can also just say 'visionary' things by just opening any sci-fi book and pointing at a random page and claiming that I want to make that.
The hard part isn't envisioning cool sci-fi concepts like self driving cars, colonized planets, ai servants, and life like VR. The hard part is actually doing them.
Actually paying attention to the sci-fi you're consuming would give you an advantage over Musk. He says he loves the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, a series which spends a lot of time mocking corporate executives and corporate marketing. It's also a series where every AI is either an asshole, malfunctioning or both.
He also thinks the main character in Blade Runner is named Bladerunner despite the fact that Deckard's name is said like 10 times in the movie.
https://futurism.com/the-byte/elon-musk-main-character-blade-runner
And there are robotaxis in some places already, like airports (Germany?).
Bet he's just spewing this shit to cover up for something else, like they all do.
Yes let us create the Daemonculaba!
"Always your car," is corporate speak for "you will be liable for whatever it does."
Right beside full self driving? Is this like the classic “fusion is just 5 years away”?
Hey, at least we have actually accomplished (edit: net-positive) fusion. 10-20 years before the first commercial plant comes online, but fusion is a technology which now exists. This is extremely awesome. Honestly, I never thought I’d see it. But, it’s here, it exists, and now the distance between today and when the first power plant comes online is just a matter of scaling the tech upwards.
Full, autonomous self-driving cabs - especially from Tesla - on a massive scale… not so much.
Question for you, when you say that we've accomplished fusion, do you mean fusion that produces more power than took to generate it? Or simply the act of fusing atoms together in a reactor (vs the uncontained fusion present in thermonuclear bombs)? If it's the former, then like, holy shit, that's actually been accomplished‽ Like, I know NIF had their whole thing with breakeven fusion a couple of years ago, but that was only counting the energy that made it to the hohlraum, not all the energy that was lost powering the lasers and shit. When you factor all of that in (like you'd need to for realistic power generation) then it's very far away from breakeven generation. It's still an incredible breakthrough and will help us figure out fusion energy, but it's not a practical means of energy generation at this time. Did something else happen that I missed‽
If it's the latter, then we've actually been fusing atoms together in reactors since the 1950s. In fact, there's a community of people who build small fusion reactors as a hobby! I learned about this a few years ago when a 16 year old made the news by being the youngest person to build their own reactor. The main site I know of is https://www.fusor.net/
Er, not really with fusion actually, unless you just mean "have made atoms fuse regardless of if it generates net energy or not" in which case we've had it for decades. We have managed net energy production if you compare the output of a very powerful laser used to compress the fuel to the energy of the resulting reaction, but crucially, the laser in question isn't perfectly efficient, and only a fraction of the electrical energy put in is turned into laser energy in the beam. This means that we still don't have net electricity production, and even once we finally get that, getting the tech efficient enough to produce enough electricity to be cost competitive will be a tough ask, especially as electricity from solar in particular has been going down in price of late.
I'd argue that it wasn't really "net-positive". Certainly it was a positive energy gain, but it took way more energy to create the fusion than just the input energy. There is a ton of efficiency losses to create the input energy, which is defined by the energy in the laser beam that triggers the fusion. A lot of energy is also used to maintain confinement during the reaction.
I would like the term net positive to be more inclusive of all of the recurring energy used to support the fusion. It's fair to not include the energy used to construct the machines, but anything that would need to be put in to a fusion plant each reaction to get out energy should be considered.
In the video, when he's talking about the robot Optimus, he claims that at scale this will cost $20-30K and goes on to say "this will be the biggest product ever of any kind" and "everyone of the 8 billion people one earth will want their Optimus buddy".
Dude. Most people on this planet can barely afford a $1,000 smart phone.
“Let them eat cake”
— another famous rich person, shortly before she got what she deserved.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Let_them_eat_cake
Appears not to be the case. I was curious about the full context, and that context is that it almost certainly didn't actually happen.
"Let them take ketamine."
“this will be the biggest product ever of any kind” and “everyone of the 8 billion people one earth will want their Optimus buddy”.
Dude. Most people on this planet can barely afford a $1,000 smart phone.
First, there are a shockingly high number of people walking around with a $1k smart phone, but I think that speaks more to people buying on credit.
Sadly if a company can replace a worker with a $30k robot, he won't be wrong that lots would be sold. I have serious doubts these will be replacing humans in the short term.
The shockingly high number of people with high end phones are still, by global standards, pretty damn rich.
All Tesla shareholders and twitter users asked to hold their breath until then.
The stock dropped 7% so I guess not everyone is
Add it to the list.
The robot taxi and the bus thing both depend on FSD working well, so maybe they'll be ready in like 20 or 30 years.
Although skeptical, and especially disliking Elon musk, this is merely speculative. It could take five years, or it could take 25 years. We just don’t know yet. However, unlike fusion, we’ve never achieved FSD yet. But, like fusion, I’m sure we will.
Just not yet, and, I hope, not a product of an Elon Musk company.
Well according to Elon FSD is going to be ready "next year" for the last 8 years or so. I wish he would swallow his pride, admit he was wrong, and start using lidar and other types of sensors.
They'll do what every AI company does and have guys in India do the actual driving 'until the technology is ready', like how the Amazon grab and go stores were implemented.
That's how the robots at this same event were being run.
https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-beer-pouring-optimus-robots-are-not-autonomous-2000510899
Way too much latency for that but I wouldn't be surprised if they try to do it
I love that at least some of the press is finally calling Elon on his bullshit. The ArsTechnica review of this event was particularly delicious.
These things and the trucks are so damn ugly... Who the hell watched 80s sci-fi and was like "Yes! Give me that aesthetic."
It’s because they do it so poorly. It’s cost-cutting masquerading as innovation and minimalism. This style has been done well by Giorgetto Giugiaro in the 80s. The Delorean and Maserati Boomerang are undoubtedly beautiful (though certainly a product of their time). These are just cheap cosplay pulling at tech-bro nostalgia.
They are head-turning though. Not in a good way, but head-turning. One drove by me yesterday and I instantly turned my head because look at that ugly fucking thing and now let me see the idiot driving it.
Bruh the streets of San Francisco are packed with waymos carrying passengers today
daily reminder that if you were only 10% as bad at your job as billionaires you'd be fucking fired in an instant.
Well FSD is just right around the corner after all!
But in all seriousness, if his shitty candidate and party he endorses wins, they honestly probably will be on the roads in a few years time.
I'll cut my fucking legs off and buy a wheelchair and roll my ass around before I ever get one of those.
Fuck Musk
If things are at least progressing somewhat he predicts next year. For Musk to say 2-3 years means the project has hit a brick wall and they're desperate.
I don’t think it’s hilarious. I think he got his name in the news again, and here we are talking about him.
Not all publicity is good publicity when you're desperate for the world to love you like Elon is.
Preorders start now! Preorder bonus: Dark MAGA hat
"Preorders start now! Only currency allowed is Dark MAGAcoin" -Musk probably
“The rule is, jam to-morrow and jam yesterday — but never jam to-day.”
“It must come sometimes to ‘jam to-day,’” Alice objected.
“No, it ca’n’t,” said the Queen. “It’s jam every other day: to-day isn’t any other day, you know.”
It’ll be ready next week, I promise.
It was two minutes, five minutes ago
Turkish will get that sausage long before the first Musktaxi is for sale.
You can carve that promise in granite "The Cyber Cab will be available in two years."