The wealthy and politically connected fucked over Bernie and every other American like they consistently do. Because Bernie would have actually helped Americans and they'd have another FDR to deal with.
People need to stop thinking it's D vs R. Both parties look out more for their donors than America, and they have a lot of the same donors. The only explanation for the DNCs actions back to 2016, is they'd rather have trump than a progressive.
trump let's moderates lower standards, a progressive president means standards would be raised, and no more Republican or "moderate" Dem president.
He would have been the leader of the Democratic party... And as such he could have made some serious changes to that party and who is allowed to be in it... Possibly even giving us an actual people's party
He wouldn't have been able to do anything because of Congress, period. Neither party wants the things that Bernie wants. He's a socialist, and both major parties are very much pro-corporate capitalists.
The only explanation for the DNCs actions back to 2016, is they'd rather have trump than a progressive.
The DNC has spent over 44 million dollars helping pro-trump Republicans win their primaries over moderate Republicans, so that they can point at the Republican party and say "look, there are no moderate Republicans left". The DNC is just as guilty as the trump Republicans for radicalizing the Republican party.
The same lawyer also argued that there is “no contractual obligation” to prevent advantage or disadvantage between candidates, and that the evenhandedness and impartiality language in the DNC charter is not “self-defining.”
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We could have—and we could have voluntarily decided that, Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way. That’s not the way it was done. But they could have. And that would have also been their right.
Important to point out that the DNC's lawyers just flat out admitted there that it's a thing that has happened before.
I caucased for Bernie in Washington for the primary, what a miserable experience. It took all day, the entire event was run by old white ladies in Hillary shirts, they lost the vote count and had to recount several times, etc. I have no confidence that my vote for Bernie was even counted (they eventually announced Hillary was the victor to a room full of Bernie "bros" ie. working class families), and that's just one location.
I've always felt that he would have delivered against trump in 2016. A paragon of living up to expectations of what our leadership should do at every stage of his life.
Pretty sure he'd have gotten the Kennedy treatment if his policies didn't serve the owner class. But probably in a plausibly deniable way, like a heart attack or such.
Also, let's face it: America didn't do anything to Bernie, they did it to themselves...
There's no "we" about it. The Democratic party no longer represents the people or unions. It represents corporate interests. Repubs do, too, but it's incorrect to think the Dems still care about the average working person.
People didn't want Bernie Sanders. I did. I voted for him twice. But I'm so fucking sick of this goofy-assed narrative that absolves the public of their civic fucking responsibility.
Nobody stole our vote. Nobody. His name was on the ticket. People didn't vote for him.
100% this. I supported him, donated lots to his campaign, and the people just didn’t turn out to vote. The left are notorious for this. Every four years, they become online-only activists and yell at everyone to either not vote- or to throw away a vote via third-party.
And then, they vanish without a trace only to resurface later on as victims of their own decisions. And what’s funny about the whole thing is that they complain so much about “status quo,” but fail to realize they’re as status quo as it gets.
Yeah, but Clinton got some debate questions beforehand and private chatter clearly showed that the brass preferred her. This is literally unforgiveable because, just like braindead Trump supporters, I fell for the "it was rigged" despite the complete lack of evidence. And even worse in this case because Clinton crushed him!
By design, of course.
For those who won't look it up the takeaway is that when a massively popular, actually left leaning candidate makes it far enough in the race and poses a real threat to the establishment despite the hurdles it has already put in their way in the form of the media and state dictated education that sow hatred of anything remotely socialist, the media will then go in to overdrive to stop them from getting in to power by any means possible.
And it works. Again - because of a combination of no education for critical thinking against the establishment, and a media that serves it.
It's one of the ways in which the system is rigged to always work in favour of the rich and powerful, and why elections are nothing but a charade (especially in a monarchy) - they will never let us have an equitable and just society that works for all of its members, they have too much to lose, and they would kill us all off in a blink if it protected their status (they already are). The time for fighting back in self defence is long overdue..
If that were the case, then the banks would all be publicly owned now.
Bailouts aren't a little bit of socialism or "crony" capitalism - it's just capitalism. The banks own the factors of production, bought most representatives, and effectively bailed themselves out.
The banks need to die, every single one of them yes all of them.
Australia elected someone pretty close to a socialist once. Not really a socialist, but far more left wing than anyone America or Britain has elected in living history, and far more left than anyone Australia has had since.
America organised a coup against his Government. And like, yes, we all know America loves doing coups in foreign countries. But usually it's countries most Americans would perceive as "third world". Either a political enemy or a neutral irrelevancy. (To be very clear, I'm not saying they are irrelevant, but that most Americans would think of them as not very significant.) But in 1975 they did it to one of their ostensible closest allies. Because he was too left wing for Ford, Kissinger, and William Colby. (Side note, in looking up who was the director of the CIA at the time, I discovered that Colby was succeeded in that role by…George Bush Sr. They elect literal spies for president??) And because he threatened to close down their spy base.
Your comment getting downvoted is pretty dumb, he is absolutely not a socialist. He hasn't expressed the desire to abolish capitalism and replace it with socialism. He just wants "humane" capitalism. Wanting public healthcare/social safety/a welfare state doesn't make you a socialist. He's fine private industry as long as they're regulated enough/as long as the workers are treated well.
I'm not so sure about this argument, he couldn't beat Hilary plus the dnc and all that money, if he had though, it would have been Bernie and the dnc and all that money against trump, that's a different fight.
He did win against her. Until the Superdeligates swung the election in favor of where their money and the DNC wanted. I completely hold the DNC torpedoing themselves as the reason for Trump in '16.
It was Obama. Bernie was going to win. Obama called up Buttigieg and Klobuchar and told them to drop out in order to consolidate the non-Bernie vote around Biden. They did as they were asked.
Moderate democrats were splitting the vote, and when all of them dropped out, the vote consolidated to a moderate candidate.
Are you basically arguing that, despite (unfortunately) not appealing to the average democratic voter, it's somehow wrong that he didn't win in favor of a politician who does?
Well, by the same token, Warren did not drop out. And, many of her supporters may have supported Bernie. So, kind of contingent on who is in the race at any given point. Until we have ranked choice primaries, it will be easy to end up with a candidate that does not have popular support winning.
It was Obama. Bernie was going to win. Obama called up Buttigieg and Klobuchar and told them to drop out in order to consolidate the non-Bernie vote around Biden. They did as they were asked.
It was 2020, just because Bernie did swing to Biden after super Tuesday made the writing on the wall clear and Bernie was vehemently against Trump winning again.
The media went nutty after he looked to have a decent lead up to the primaries so suddenly every story was about how Bernie loves Fidel Castro and communism, even so-called "liberal propaganda" MSNBC had their talking heads going on about how Bernie would quite literally have them executed.
America literally cannot have a president that isn't right wing or centrist, we're not allowed to.
On the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders spent the first part of 2015 categorized as a likely loser who received very little media attention (indeed, the whole Democratic contest received relatively little attention until it became competitive). But once he gained traction, Bernie got some media buzz, and it wound up giving him the most positive media coverage of any candidate in either party, at least through 2015:
As his poll numbers ticked upward, [Sanders] was portrayed as a “gaining ground” candidate, a favorable storyline buttressed by reports of increasingly large crowds and enthusiastic followers. “The overflow crowds Sanders has been drawing in Iowa and New Hampshire,” said USA Today, “are signs that there is ‘a real hunger’ for a substantive discussion about Americans’ economic anxieties … .” The “real hunger” extended also to journalists, who are drawn to a candidate who begins to make headway against an odds-on favorite.
Sanders’ coverage in 2015 was the most favorable of any of the top candidates, Republican or Democratic. For her part, Hillary Clinton had by far the most negative coverage of any candidate.
I'll bite in case this isn't trolling. They are likely referring to how people, even those who were fairly liberal, made it seem like Bernie was too far out there to be a valid choice for president.
Maybe a little trolling. I was a Bernie supporter, donor, and volunteer, but I accept that he lost fair and square I am just pretty tired of people feeling the need to relitigate the 2016 primary every 4 years, even though none of the candidates or leadership are currently involved.
It was painful for all of us who poured our heart into his campaign, and I understand that people were frustrated, but at this point picking that scab serves no purpose than to depress voter engagement, which is why I am skeptical that it is being done in good faith. The DNC worked with Bernie after 2016 (I sat on one of the focus groups and filled out several survey) and made a bunch of reforms, but you never hear anything about that for some reason.
And I personally agree with that with one caveat not to be a president, but to be electable. While he was popular on the left, I think he would not pull independence/centrist and would lose election.
It's nobody's fault except rich oligarchs who made sure media didn't cover him as much as others so pitiable non-voting, progressive, or moderate working class didn't know who was also great. Because Hilary would've been one of the best politicians on record to be President of the USA despite 20 years of smear campaigns effecting even the most progressive of us despite how much they'd like to think they weren't.
In the end a large swath of our population is at the whimsy of media at no small fault to republicans destroying public schools and oligarchs making even Lemmings think Democrats are a monolith that doesn't INCLUDE THE PROGRESSIVE PARTY.
Nope. He probably woulda gotten himself assassinated by these fucking capitalists and then we coulda had a proper left wing martyr to galvanize us... Then again, what happened after JFK? oh.
You mean making him one of the most powerful senators and the longest serving independent senator in the history of the country, as well as a bestselling millionaire author? Boo hoo, I wish America would do that to me.
Bernie could have won the nomination if he spent his career being friendly with the DNC like Biden and Hillary did instead of taking every opportunity to denigrate them
You understand that being friendly with the DNC would have made him the exact kind of politician that people don't want to vote for like Biden or Hillary? That is to say most people only vote for either of them because they prefer them to an even worse option (trump).
Whereas people really wanted to vote for Bernie because he actually stood for something