Elon Musk said the Tesla vandalism shocked him, adding that neither he nor his company have done "anything harmful."
Summary
Elon Musk condemned rising vandalism against Tesla, blaming the political left and suggesting a conspiracy against him.
He cited incidents of arson, gunfire, and property destruction at Tesla dealerships, linking them to protests against his work with DOGE.
Trump and the DOJ have labeled the attacks "domestic terrorism," vowing arrests.
Some Tesla owners are selling their vehicles or adding bumper stickers distancing themselves from Musk, who defended Tesla as a "peaceful company," saying "I've never done anything harmful."
Which is more pathetic. The idea that he really thinks he is a good person or the idea that he can tell a lie like that and someone might believe him who isn't just as pathetic as him?
Who cares if he’s autistic?? I only know 2 autistic people. They are the gentlest people I know. They are the least likely to display a Nazi salute, they don’t assume control of governments, and they aren’t involved in cutting off people’s much needed funding. I’m so tired of hearing “Elon" and “autistic" in the same breath. If conservatives really believe the shit he does should be excused because he’s “autistic”, then he isn’t competent FULL STOP
to clarify, one can absolutely determine themselves to have autism, but the reason most people go that route is because they can't afford or haven't got access to resources for an official diagnosis....
...of which he has plenty. he's not autistic; he's a sociopathic piece of shit who thinks branding himself as autistic will earn him sympathy points, like keeping a child wrapped around his shoulders will keep him from being luigi'd.
I specifically remember the bud light and trans controversy where they were boycotting bud light. Elon seemed to support that. Now that people are trading in their teslas and boycotting all of a sudden it’s not good.
"I made me and my businesses vaguely political in one direction then went all the way into the other direction very explicitly and I don't get why my former customers are pissed"
Ever since I read his first wife's article I've disliked him. These days it's mild compared to everything else, but back when he was popular… also it's just such personal scumbag behavior
Homie looked at Greek mythology and took it as a guidebook. Total asshole, check. Shitty to your innumerable children with many different women, check.
Elon Musk is 3 beers away from cornering his most attractive niece at Thanksgiving and lecturing her for 38 minutes about how Lincoln started the "War of Northern Aggression."
Well, I guess that's still a step 'up' from his dad, with the 40 year age gap between him and his baby mamma/former step daughter, saying "Show me the rules that say I can't groom/fuck/marry my former step daughter. Show me the rules."
Ya know... I could see him thinking all his bad jokes, and online antics don't hurt anyone (not true) but the dude is decimating the federal workforce, he can't honestly believe he hasn't done anything to garner that hate. That's people's livelihoods.
He knows that his actions have killed people. He knew that he was cutting USAIDand he knows now that people have died because of those loss of services. That's not a secret. And by now he knows that some people have been cut off from social security because they were declared dead when they're still alive, which again is harming people.
Of course he might say that those changes were necessary or reasonable or accidental. But whatever the explanation, he knows that his actions have harmed people.
And if you'd like to take a different look at it, just think about how he's described damage to the economy. He has openly said that he thinks the economy is going to get worse before it gets better, because of the changes that he and Trump have enacted. Here again, you can make an argument that he believes in the long run things will be better than they were in the past. I don't think that's true, but even if you do, it's still openly acknowledging that he made things worse for many in the short term.
Can't remember where I heard it but someone posited this to me and it stuck: Nobody ever does anything they believe is wrong.
If you take that at face value then how you explain evil is that a person has justified to themselves that death, suffering, pain, and unhappiness are all balanced against what they believe is the right way things should be. I can't imagine being in a ecosystem of people where the things I believe start justifying the way these people behave. But, I'm not a billionaire. Or religious.
I feel like that quote is easily wrong. Hell, I've done things I know are wrong (on small, minor things, like leaving work 15 minutes early and not taking leave or calling in sick when I'm not, because fuck it).
Then again, I guess I don't think it's entirely wrong, either. Because yeah, there are lots of people who truly believe their unethical/immoral actions are in the right. But I also think those people are often victims of indoctrination and/or they are sociopaths.
The paranoid part of my brain sees things like this as an attempt to piss people off enough to kick off some violent attacks, and give Trump the justification he wants to enact martial law.
He’s a sociopath, and like a good sociopath, he’s trying to elicit empathy in others for personal gain. He’s even said empathy is a weakness of Western civilization that can be exploited, and that’s exactly what these crocodile tears are designed to do. He’s even has an army of PR people he normally would ignore if his Tesla stock wasn’t tanking.
Though I think it is important to add that he has also illegally broken into many different government organizations without access or permission. Causing them to be unable to do their job serving the American public. He's hurt thousands if not millions of people already.
And did a Nazi salute, and literally fired tens of thousands of people for no fucking reason. I hope he's just pretending to be surprised and not actually this dense.
Clinically psychopathic. Sociopathy is the result.
The distinction is important because neurotypical people can be raised to behave in ways that are sociopathic, both directly and indirectly. Most of the ultra wealthy who are born into wealth for example explain away the harms their lives cause others. But they still feel and express empathy in many aspects of their lives
But Musk seems genuinely like he has no genuine empathy, and like he has no comprehension of how to be a moral actor in the world. Trump is the same.
Being reasonable intelligent and born into privilege in the world that rewards sociopathy through the market system... psychopaths seem to disproportionately find themselves in positions of power. It's perverse.
He's personally seen to the loss of tens of thousands (hundreds now perhaps) of jobs has no signs of stopping, stopping nutritional aid to those that need it most, and has even made comments about going after Social Security which serves our societies most vulnerable. Elon, how on Earth are you so clueless to see that all this hate is directly from your actions.
I'd even argue people may not have cared for Tesla, but the fact that Musk directly benefits monetarily makes Tesla a target.
A perfect example: Musk also was partial creator of Paypal even though he sold his interest in it a long time ago and has no association with it now. While lots of folks don't like Paypal for a number of reasons, I don't hear one peep of people ditching paypal because Musk had a hand in its creation.
He's not clueless, he's using this as an opportunity to play the victim and paint "the left" as the real problem. It's all for Fox news viewers and the ignorant and it's going to work. These people are masters at propaganda and manipulation. It's disgusting how effective they've been
Listened to a bit of a recent Joe Rogan visit he had. He plays it like the attacks are coming from the deep state hidden in bureaucracy as if those programs had no positive impact on people's lives
I mean, forget the dismantling of the United States of America. Even without that, he sued into oblivion and made it untenable wherever possible to even get recompense from Tesla after the cars self-crashed or self-destructed. Musk is a walking, talking pile of shit harming everyone wherever he can. He made a person saving miners out to be a pedophile. He names his fucking kid an unpronounceable series of letters and numbers. This man is a fucking shouldabeenabort plaguing the whole world.
If you dont consider hacking a government to pieces harmful.... Idk what to tell you. Even hacking a regime to pieces will hurt people. You can't move fast and break things with governments and people's lives.
"If you ignore the staggering amount of human misery that I am directly and indirectly responsible for, and all the absolutely appalling things I advocate for, I've never done anything harmful."
Yeah, it's a conspiracy fuck-face. It's not like people are openly saying you suck, you're a leech, we're going to boycott the companies you're involved with and you're not wanted here. It's all a secret conspiracy. Pay no attention to the signs at very public protests.
People like him do harmful things and act like they're the most important people on Earth, but when the boomerang comes right back at them, they crawl around and cry that they did nothing wrong. PATHETIC.
I'm honestly curious what kind of bubble this guy lives in. Who the fuck does he talk to on a regular basis?
It might be a lot of yes men, and people who feed his ego. His personality could be just to cut out anyone who has any level of differing opinions. Maybe he actually believes this shit he says. Who the fuck knows.
So I've tried it a couple times now, with varying degrees of success, but I want to write a paper which takes a lifecycle approach to excess deaths by industry. My goal was to come up with a deaths/ billion estimate, to figure out a quantity of wealth after which we could decide, the person holding that wealth has effectively committed murder; then we buffer it by 10x to account for the fuzziness of the math, and we set that as the global maximum wealth cap.
Its practically impossible to believe that any industry results in 0 deaths per billion. However, when I did the first couple intial forrays into the research, its very dificult to pin down exaclty which is the source industry for a given death (for example, fossil fuels contribute massively to peoples deaths. But so does tobacco. Electric vehicles dont have tail pipe emissions, but might use fossil fuels in their construction, etc.. etc..)
Here is some summary output from that.
To compare the estimated premature deaths per billion dollars of profit between tech companies and a fossil fuel extraction company, we'll examine ExxonMobil as a representative example.
ExxonMobil's Annual Profit:
In 2024, ExxonMobil reported a net income of $33.7 billion.
investor.exxonmobil.com
Estimating Premature Deaths Due to Fossil Fuel Emissions:
A study by Vohra et al. (2021) estimated that fossil fuel combustion-related fine particulate matter (PM₂.₅) pollution was responsible for approximately 10.2 million premature deaths globally in 2012.
investor.exxonmobil.com
Calculating Premature Deaths per Billion Dollars of Profit:
To estimate the number of premature deaths attributable to ExxonMobil's operations per billion dollars of profit, we can use the following approach:
Global Fossil Fuel CO₂ Emissions: Approximately 35 billion metric tons annually.
ExxonMobil's Contribution: ExxonMobil's operations contribute to a portion of these emissions. While exact figures vary, estimates suggest that ExxonMobil's products account for about 1.3 billion metric tons of CO₂ emissions annually, representing approximately 3.7% of global fossil fuel CO₂ emissions.
Attributable Premature Deaths: Applying this percentage to the global premature deaths:
10,200,000 deaths×0.037≈377,400 deaths
10,200,000deaths×0.037≈377,400deaths
Deaths per Billion Dollars of Profit:
377,400 deaths33.7 billion USD≈11,200 deaths per billion USD
33.7billion USD377,400deaths≈11,200deaths per billion USD
Comparison with Tech Companies:
Previously, we estimated the number of premature deaths per billion dollars of profit for tech companies, assuming their energy consumption was entirely sourced from fossil fuels:
Samsung: Approximately 1,004 deaths per billion USD
Google (Alphabet): Approximately 153 deaths per billion USD
Microsoft: Approximately 209 deaths per billion USD
Conclusion:
If we attribute a proportional share of global premature deaths from fossil fuel emissions to ExxonMobil based on its contribution to global CO₂ emissions, the company is associated with approximately 11,200 premature deaths per billion dollars of profit. This figure is significantly higher than the estimates for tech companies, reflecting the direct role of fossil fuel extraction and production in contributing to air pollution and associated health impacts.