This was one of the many frustrating things about his Presidency. So many times he was reporting on what "someone" was saying was going on in the government. Motherfucker, you've got a big slice of the government working for you. Why don't you find out from them what's going on?
He spent a lot of his presidency watching Fox News and ignoring his briefings. Staff figured out pretty quickly that he likes pictures and compliments and tried to use those to help him get through minutes of material.
Especially since he's probably the person who said it on TV. But, to answer your question, of course the president should have a higher standard, and the people should hold him to it. For some reason this asshole is still around despite being a living parody.
I have been disappointed by that as well but this has been astoundingly good as far as debates have gone. The immediate fact checking is long overdue. And frankly I look forward to pointing at Trump's extra speaking time as a bulwark against the "iT wAs BiAsEd By ThE lIbErAL mOdErAtOrS" complaints.
I’ve been genuinely impressed by their real-time fact checking. They’re swatting away every wild thing he says calmly and with specific examples of the truth. These moderators are incredibly well-prepared.
And the best part was that when they did interrupt her, she finished her sentence, then stopped talking
(Except for one time where it really looked like trump was gonna set her off but she still held up)
I think it's safe to say this is without a doubt the best performance we've seen from a candidate against Trump, which imo really speaks to her ability to keep her composure under pressure, which isn't easy, especially when everybody expects you to be absolutely flawless.
The problem is that they would hone in on that and make the debate about that rather than Kamala. They took the L for her Win. It's shitty. But what they had to do to make her the focal point. He absolutely is gaslighting them to make it about what he wants.
They're afraid to be called unfair after he said that they'd be unfair. It's one of the strategies that us uses to suppress fighting back against his lies and ineptitude.
First, your preemptively accuse someone of something.
Second you do awful things that would normally rightfully get a response, but the authorities have to be careful otherwise you'll accuse them of doing the thing they should be doing.
Third, you get your way even though you broke the rules, or you get to yell about how you knew, just knew! That you'd be treated badly.
That was Harris's request, I thought. In the original terms for the Trump/Biden debate, each person's mic was shut off except when it was their turn to speak. Harris asked for that to be changed to allow interruptions, and Trump went along with it. If that's not working out for Harris, she should probably talk to her own team that wanted it, instead of whining about the moderators.
The mic being active or not doesn't affect her hearing. If he interrupts her she'd still hear it, only the TV audience wouldn't, so she'd seem flustered.
Insanely, if he were capable of forming and articulating coherent thoughts, he could have actually landed an attack that would have turned off some swing voters, but he was basically frothing with impotent rage by that point.
Relevant survey response:
"14. As President will you use your executive authority to ensure that transgender and non-
binary people who rely on the state for medical care — including those in prison and
immigration detention — will have access to comprehensive treatment associated with gender
transition, including all necessary surgical care? If yes, how will you do so?
Yes X No ⬜
Explanation (no more than 500 words): It is important that transgender individuals who rely
on the state for care receive the treatment they need, which includes access to treatment
associated with gender transition. That’s why, as Attorney General, I pushed the California
Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation to provide gender transition surgery to state
inmates. I support policies ensuring that federal prisoners and detainees are able to obtain
medically necessary care for gender transition, including surgical care, while incarcerated or
detained. Transition treatment is a medical necessity, and I will direct all federal agencies
responsible for providing essential medical care to deliver transition treatment."
I watched it, and I usually skip debates because the summaries are more meaningful (it's usually just used for fluffy sound bites). This one just felt... Different? She baited the fuck out of him. There will be so many memes.
And yeah the moment he said the great Orban I fucking lost it, more at than the dog eating migrants and the post birth abortions. Like, Harris can't necessarily call that "ally" an asshole fascist but like, those of us in the know, know.
It's really astounding that Donald will lie his ass off about almost anything but can't muster the will to lie about protecting Ukraine. No rational person could think he intends to do anything but hand over Ukraine to Russia.
That's the one thing he CAN'T lie about. Putin has him on a very short leash, and he would catch hell for even implying that Ukraine should be defended.
For Putin, it's not about getting Trump in office, it's about PR, and saying you'll defend Ukraine is not good PR.
So, turning Ukraine into a mass prison that people are desperatly trying to escape, where people are kidnapped on the streets and sent to die on the frontlines? Can they somehow opt-out of this protection? Yeah, didn't think so, obviously you know what's better for other people.
No rational person could think he intends to do anything but hand over Ukraine to Russia.
Obviously it wouldn't happen, just the current front lines would become the new borders.
But even your bogeyman "hand over Ukraine to Russia" is still orders of magnitudes better for Ukrainians than the current situation.
Harris campaign requested unmuted mics - it was Trump's team that was worried about him making an ass of himself with interruptions. With that in mind they might be letting him talk because it's what Harris wanted in the first place.
Honestly don't know what it takes for an asshole to be put in his place. Most people are weak in this sense, I mean, we see it in every day lives too. It took me so much fucking working to get this sociopathic criminal pushed out of my friend group. Most people didn't "want to make things awkward".
Me and a couple friends made a little party out of it. I started Uni a couple weeks ago so we haven't been able to talk hardly at all, so we made sure to clear our schedules so we could laugh at Trump for a couple hours together
What's the point of muted microphones if they'll just let him say whatever he wants, whenever!? Once again, all the rules and laws just don't apply to Donald Trump...
I forgot the movie, but it's like that scene were the elites of Germany were amused by the Nazis and allowing them to grow until they realized they lost control. I think the same thing is going on here, they think they cam get something out of Trump, but likely will be fucked in the long term if Trump gets what he wants.
I saw a minute or so of it because someone else had it on, but I wasn't interested in watching, I'll catch a summary online later, or will look at this thread now and then Will try not to reload obsessively. I need to protect my fragile brain from this crap ;).
This post has 199 upvotes and 18 downvotes, or 91.7% and 8.3% respectively. In other words, people want to see that kind of content, so that seems fair to me. I don't expect lemmy to care about my local elections, I go to local websites for that. International social media naturally care about things that will affect most of their users.
Well, respectfully, some of us have bills, and there's nothing worse for my hope in either of these candidates than my grocery, electrical, and medical bills.