'Trans People's Issues Alienate the Working Class,' Says Democrat Who's Never Met Either

It's not even satire anymore.

You mean -probably real headline from the 50s

There absolutely are a lot of them; it’s great that they finally feel comfortable to be themselves.

We saw the same thing with gay people. I’m an 80’s kid. When I was young, gay was something you saw on TV and in the movies. There ‘were no gay kids’ at the schools I attended. Because that was simply not something that you could admit to being.

Earlier this year I met a teen girl at work who casually mentioned her girlfriend. I was delighted that kids these days are comfortable enough in their own skin to just say that to someone they just met. That was not a thing when I was her age. It’s nice to see how far we’ve come.

I transitioned in 2015. Some would say at 20 I was too young, but here I am a decade later saying it was the best decision of my life, it helped me turn my life around, get my shit together, and find happiness I wouldn’t’ve otherwise known. This is notable in part for being the opposite position I hear from those who enlisted at that age, something nobody is arguing 18 year olds shouldn’t be allowed to do.

Hey! I know a trans person and I'm sure some of my acquintances are blue collar.

The ones I've met have all been centrists, eager to throw vulnerable minorities under the bus in their endless and fruitless quest to appease fascists.

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feelings rights FTFY

Political strategists are there to make party win themselves money even if it hurts the feelings of a minority, more news at 6

So many of these consultants just exist to restate the bigotries and biases of the candidate, in hopes that they'll be hired on as Yes-Men in a doomed campaign. The GOP has been overplaying its hand on trans-politics since the Obama era. Candidates that run on this shit routinely get washed in all but the safest elections, because they sound like freaks when they run around town posting weird AI art with "IS THIS A WOMAN?!?! VOTE FOR ME!!!" next to it.

But because its become such a baked-in GOP strategy, we're now forced to treat "When can a mall cop grope your daughter's crotch to check if she's secretly a man?" as a serious campaign question.

Strategists don't care. They know their campaign is paid for by a bunch of bible-thumping neanderthals. So this kind of campaigning just won't stop. Because, paradoxically, the losing only makes people madder and more conspiracy-minded and more willing to throw good money after bad.

It wouldn't be a conversation if the alt right media would stop acting as if transgender people are causing all their problems.

1. learn to walk and chew gum
2. it's not supposed to be proportional to the "real" issues, it's proportional to the political violence used against them.
3. trans issues are real issues, because trans rights are human rights. and they're under attack.

why do you think they always pick minorities to attack? first they come for a tiny minority, so apathetic dickwads don't speak up because they're not part of that minority. wonder where i heard that before.

i mean, it's the right that's currently trying to make laws banning trans care. the left just wants them to be left alone. as soon as the right stops trying to ban them the left will stop having anything to complain about

I found the guy in the meme

I'm sorry but who do you think is next? We've seen this movie before. At the end of the day only loyal, God fearing, white, land owning people, in good community standing will be safe.

That's why we're fighting for the rights of less than 1 percent of the population. Because until we live in a country where everyone's rights are secure, no one's rights are secure.

And if you don't believe me go check out Christian Nationalism. It's not exactly subtle and it is driving the modern Republican party.

Outrageously disproportionate to the real issues

How often have I heard anti-trans rhetoric in the last few years? Why is it always used as a wedge issue to

• Privatize public institutions - schools, parks, health clinics, public transit

• Ramp up police enforcement and surveillance on the working class

• Crack down on union organizing and other labor movements (particularly teacher and nurse unions)

• Elevate "naturalist" rhetoric used to entrench gender bias (only boys can do X and only girls can do Y, but trans people are trying to cheat! Keep the genders divided!)

Hell, I even see it worm its way into subjects like climate change reform, with the old Alex Jones "They're turning the frogs gay!" rhetoric intended to deflect from the impact rising temperatures has on the ecology by convincing people there's a Homosexual Agenda behind their ecological problems.

Yeah it's funny being told by leftwing media darlings that they're so much more in touch with working people than me, I'd love to see that satirical content creator come and live my life with me for a week then see if he still feels smug enough to say that.

It's a wedge issue designed to avoid talking about things that will actually help people, including trans people, to live decent lives. The left loves an excuse to call people bigots, racists, and whatever type of monster means that they can avoid actual meaningful change.

Trans rights are human rights.

Advocating for human rights shouldn't require a mathematical calculation of how many humans are affected.

Jews are a very small part of the population. If Republicans were passing laws specifically to persecute Jews, would you be making the same excuses for ignoring it? None of us are free until all of us are.

My understanding of the history of the fediverse, such as it is, is that it was initially used by marginalized groups. Specifically LGBTQ people who felt (and in fact were) persecuted on other platforms.

Trans rights are a core issue to many people here. This is likely why your take is being met with outright rejection by so many.

No. The people affected by hateful policy are "creating noise." The Democrats are just the only ones willing to listen and try to help.

I don't know what "very little" means to you, but I have friends that are married with children, unlikely to face violence motivated by bigotry (location dependant, YMMV), and have legal protections from discrimination in housing and employment.

When I was a kid they could get fired or evicted with no recource, and if they had the temerity to poke their head out of the closet someone could kick their ass with impunity unless they were seriously injured or killed, and sometimes even then.

But sure, "very little," let's go with that.

Looks impressive, accomplishes very little.

I guess the real satire is in the comments. Do we blame the dems for having actual plans to help more than the ruling class, or do we blame the gopniks for locking down house and/or senate to block anything positive for us poors for 49.7 of the last 50 years?

You really hit a nerve there. lol.

They are brought up by many different people to prove that white people are weak and perverted

L-o-L. You mean they are brought up by transphobic people to prove they are transphobic? Who in their fucking right mind use trans people as an excuse for working class issues?

And how many trans people have you worked with?

"white people are weak and perverted"

White people have enslaved races of people and nearly eradicated others and now half of them are trying to be accepting of others and you won't have it?

Are they really ok with a candidate who's going to try to deport them (at best) or kill them (at worst) for not being white enough, just because they can't get over their transphobia? If so, then we really are lost

Which is conservative propaganda. That's not intrinsic to the working class, it's intrinsic to watching fox news and listening to Russian state media call our military soft.

Wait are you saying the garment worker, seamstress and avocado packet are unaccepting of trans topics?

Sad but unsurprising to see a bona fide member of the working class downvoted for pointing out that some of the popular rhetoric is pointlessly divisive and does nothing to help the working class.

Many of todays activists seem to be doing anything but actually helping the various communities they are oh so eager to bully people on behalf of.

Yeah, people here don't want to hear it, but unfortunately it's the truth. You or I may care, the great majority of people have probably never even met a trans person, if they have they haven't realized, they don't see it as an important matter, not when we have the ecosystem on a destruction course and growing economic inequality (and they don't care much about those if not that they are facing growing difficulties in their daily lives).

OP: States the opinions of the people around him.

Lemmy: FUCK YOU!!!