Florida Schools Will Teach How Slavery Brought ‘Personal Benefit’ to Black People

If it’s anything like Ohio it doesn’t matter what the majority wants. The republicans have drawn the maps so that they can control everything even with like 45% of the vote

Voters in Florida saying “That’s enough racism” is like me at the Olive Garden saying “That’s enough parmesan”. It’s never gonna happen without severe civil unrest.

Fascism is an ideology that rewards people for being the worst version of themselves.

With every evil act they perform they feel better about themselves. These people are just getting started.

It's what 40% of them want...they can buy the other 11%.

Who controls the past controls the future.

FL is literally filled with huge amount of morons from all over the country as a retirement haven. Rotten scumbags from all the other states.

DeSantis' approval rating has fallen off a cliff, and is continuing to fall, albeit more slowly.

So likely yes, they'll say enough is enough eventually, and I think we've already passed that point. Stuck with him for a while longer though.

DeSantis won by less than 20k votes. There is no way this shitshow doesn't prompt a big turnout yo oust him. Then we can expect more stolen election claim bullshit.

Oh my sweet summer child...

It takes effort to educate yourself. Far too many people are happy to be comfortably dumb.

That's only going to hurt the kids who want out of that shithole state. They didn't choose to grow up there. And even if it's comparable to a hyper religious private school education, colleges aren't blanket denying students from those, same with homeschool kids. It may be necessary to offer remedial classes, but colleges are already doing that for math.

That sort of happens anyway. Kids taught creationism get laughed out of Biology 101 and have to spend some semesters passing Bio for Boneheads, where they unlearn all the creation myths and get a truth bath of evolution.

US History is important for poly sci majors and law majors, so yeah some might have to make sure they can pass exams or explain how we were late among western nations to end slavery (and use truck systems, exploitation of new immigrants and child labor to keep the ill-gotten flavor in our gains.)

Or at the very least require a bunch of remedial training classes

This is actually a terrifying prospect that would only make the situation worse. The kids stuck there and being educated in this propaganda are the ones who will need higher education the most! It is not their fault their parents are living there. And while some parents may have a choice in the matter, many do not as relocating in the U.S. is very expensive and impractical for some families.

I actually feel like the opposite is needed - that public universities go out of their way to accept kids who were educated in Florida in the hopes of actually being able to educate them and break the cycle that is currently feeding this wave of fascism.

I'm sorry, but this is ridiculous. These high school graduates from Florida didn't choose to live in Florida. They didn't choose to be educated this way. So not letting them into universities is discrimination and will only make things worse. If they were let into universities, they could see how Florida taught them wrongly.

Beleaf systems like that are almost desigmed to screw people over.

Edit: Thats too brief of an explanation, im tires and will bed.

Edit: lol, beleaf

Conservatives rant about the left "indoctrinating" kids to be gay or trans, but this shit is literal indoctrination. It's fucking alarming. Like, normally I'd say stay the fuck outta places like Florida or Texas but at this point we need more liberals sent out to even out these psychos.

On brand for Conservatives

Critical Race Theory is a requirement to get a law degree at most colleges. It was never taught below that level. What conservatives called CRT was actually American History.

wooooo slavery 2 : the sequel /s

It's about time the dang whites just confronted history and muster the courage to say, "you're welcome"

/S

Sounds like someone isn't graduating.

- Florida GOP

We really don't talk enough about his art. Or his literary works. Or his dreams.

Some folks really need to read and discuss George Orwell's book, 1984, and such things as double-speak.

Sign up for personal benefit!

They don't need saving, silly person.

I think they are now calling it, “non-optionally upskilled “

5 years

50 years, and the enslavement of their children and grandchildren - that's my minimum for an experiential evaluation.

Scary thought: What if this is the best they can muster? After all, there are plenty on the right who are actively calling for a race war and a Christian, white supremacist theocracy with anyone who isn't white, straight, cisgender, Christian, and male as second class citizens (if those in charge are feeling generous).

Is he going after Disney cause they put Sambo in the vault instead of building a statue at the park entrance?

I was a victim of the central Florida school system up to 8th grade in 96...I'm glad I finished school in the Mid-Atlantic region. Florida FUCKING sucks, and I have to say I'm kind of impressed at how terrible it continues to be.

As someone who knows several teachers in Florida, the kids do not give a single fuck either. Wonder where they learned that from

About 15 years ago, I attended a friend's wedding in South Carolina. It was held on a former plantation. The grounds were beautiful and I decided to join a tour of the area.

I quickly noticed that they never referred to "slaves" (and definitely not the more up to date phrase "enslaved people"). Instead, they always talked about "the workers." It was like they wanted you to picture a bunch of employees, voluntarily choosing to work there and being treated with the common decency that employees would be treated with.

Obviously, these weren't "workers." They were slaves. The plantation was trying to whitewash its history to make it seem not as bad as it really was. DeSantis' latest "educational reform" is from the same playbook. Slaves weren't tortured, abused, raped, and sold like property. No, they were just employed individuals who learned valuable life skills from their kind hearted employers! Next lesson: The Tulsa Riot and why the black people of Tulsa were equally responsible for the deaths. (I wish I was joking. That's part of the curriculum also.)

Sure! Tons of exposure. Exposure to the sun, the outside elements, vicious corpal punishment. The list goes on and on!

They were just unpaid interns receiving exposure and experience.

Not only that, but all their children would be guaranteed employment, housing, and care. What's not to love (aside from the hard work, beatings, rapes, and total lack of freedom)?

Honestly some of them did. That doesn't mean it's a good thing. I mean have you seen how some people treat their family? But plenty of them were raped abused etc at the hands of their "owners". US founding Fathers. I'm looking at you.

The South kinda did win in many ways. The North basically gave up on Reconstruction.

Even today, our Union basically gives outsized political power to the South and former Slave states.

Yes the one state known for its very respectable public education in the US. I do feel bad for the students who without their knowledge, are being indoctrinated into fascist beliefs without even knowing. Let's talk about it. Let's not frame it like genocide is ever acceptable. Let's talk about how humans were tortured and killed out of curiosity and especially hate. Dehumanized animals subjected to things torturers would love to try themselves. To those people who want to keep doing it, you're on the chopping block too

At least cunts can be useful, good-looking and they may bring joy to those who interact with them. The nicest thing I can say about DeSantis is that there's plenty of horrible stuff he hasn't done yet as far as we know.

As the old saying goes, he lacks the depth and warmth.

This may be one positive side effect of global warming.

I've met many shall I call them hopeful "job creators" that think by paying minimum wage it brings people out of poverty. They can be convinced of anything.

It sounds about right. (That it lines up with the propaganda, I mean. Not the propaganda itself.) Republicans hate the truth of history that white people owned black people as slaves and treated them horribly. They don't hate it because it was a travesty, though. They hate it because they are racist and see teaching proper history as an attempt to make them "feel bad for being white."

So they push back with their own version of history where all slave owners were kind hearted fellows who helped those poor black folks that didn't have any jobs. Republicans want to twist history to make heroes out of the white slave owners.

At least a decade too late for that.

Even if his argument was in any way accurate, that flag clearly does not currently mean what he's defending. I grew up in the south, went to college in the south, etc... If you want southern pride all over the place (I don't see why you would be proud of that with how awful it's going) then just fly your state flag. Certain parts have beautiful nature and culture that is absolutely great. The stars and bars have nothing to do with it. It's not even accurate as a Confederate flag. A swastica on a flag is so outside of this "southern flag" idea that it should mean an immediate investigation of the people flying it.

it’s like a few steps away from trying bring back human slavery (which I’m sure the supreme court would have no problem with)

Undoubtedly, since slavery is still allowed in the constitution.

Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction.

Emphasis mine.

Yeah the next logical step for Desatan is getting rid of prisons and opening work camps, with indentured servants.

If at some point Trump gets charges that keep him from being the GOP headrunner, we'll likely see Fox news turn to pushing Desantis in the other 49 states. He very quickly could turn into being liked by many Republicans

Need people from the GOP to start calling him out in hopes we can get people to hate him enough that even if Trump bows out neither are there

If you follow the links in the article, you can get to the actual curriculum itself. Scroll for a while and you'll find this...

SS.68.AA.2.3 - Examine the various duties and trades performed by slaves (e.g., agricultural work, painting, carpentry, tailoring, domestic service, blacksmithing, transportation).

Benchmark Clarifications:

Clarification 1: Instruction includes how slaves developed skills which, in some instances, could be applied for their personal benefit.

And frankly, it's not inaccurate. Slaves who worked as artisans were sometimes able to make money independently and even buy their own freedom from masters who allowed it. The absolute atrocity of the triangle trade and chattel slavery is not diminished by a lucky few, of course. The benefit of the skilled craftsmanship of enslaved people overwhelmingly went to their masters.

Is "meatball" a reference to someone?

They put it in quotes, as if they were quoting something. Yet there is no citation for it. Very strange.

There is no additional context. Republicans don't want to stop being racist, and teaching children that slavery was bad makes them less likely to be tolerant of racism.

That's no additional context. This is a tiny step removed from "they weren't slaves, they were just employees" historical revisionism.

Another part of the curriculum says that teachers need to specify that, while some white people might have caused racially motivated massacres, black people were to blame as well. The Tulsa race riot? It wasn't the fault of the white people who slaughtered all those black people. No, according to Florida's new curriculum, the black people who were slaughtered were responsible also.

The context is that it's true, but only in a limited number of cases. Many African craftsmen were brought here, and many others were apprenticed to white craftsmen here. The vast majority saw the fruits of their labor stolen for the benefit of their masters, but a lucky few were able to make money and in rare cases even buy their own freedom.

Slavery is a complex subject and you have to remember the slaves were strong, smart individuals who would have been constantly trying to make the best of their situations. The fact that some of them had some success in forging their own paths doesn't mean the triangle trade & chattel slavery were any less horrific or criminal.

Frankly, the curriculum reported on is perfectly acceptable, and the reporting is disingenuous. Whether Florida schools will teach it in a balanced way is an entirely different question.

Do you really think private schools in Florida would be less racist?

Holy shit this is stupid. These people were forcibly taken from their homes, stacked like wood in the holds of ships where many of them died, then treated worse than animals when they got here. So no, that wasn't a benefit.

Sounds like you're from Florida though

Funny difference here is though that slaves were kidnapped and sold, had no choice in the matter.

This benefit is akin to force someone into hard labour and then start selling getting calluses as a ‘benefit’. Your welcome. Absurd of course.

How is that a benefit? They were slaves taken from their homes not immigrants.

And even if they were immigrants, how is becoming a slave a good thing in any way?

They were taken hostage by African Tribes, sold to the Dutch, put on ships, shipped to North and South America, and forced into slavery. I don't think you can compare that to migrants fleeing to Canada, who are trapped south of the United States border.

Yeah it must have been really great to get kidnapped from your home and family and forcibly sold into slavery, shipped from one undeveloped country to another undeveloped country. Stop with this nonsense - there is nothing good about slavery. Period. Done. End of story. Absolutely sickening. Pure evil.

Yeah what luck! America in 1619, with its gleaming cities and endless opportunities - every African aspired to be a member of those huddled masses yearning to breathe enslaved!

How about this, what if the millions of black people that were brought over to the states, instead remained in Africa and built it to be a prominent and thriving nation.

If it wasn’t for black slaves building the U.S. one could argue that it wouldn’t be where it is today.

Yeah it's not like ruining a country, you know, ruins a country. Who would think that.

This is so vile I just gasped involuntarily. I hope someday you feel an ounce of shame, sheesh.

The America they were forced to come to was vastly different from the one we live in today. How would that be better than where they already lived? How would someone benefit from being ripped from their family and support system and dropped in an undeveloped country to do forced labor?

Yeah I'm sure the thousands of people who died in the hulls of slave ships, chained in place in their own piss and shit and sick, hungry and afraid, really appreciated the chance to come to America where the streets are paved with gold. You fucking moron.