Harris pledges to work to end taxes on tips for service industry employees, echoing Trump vow

You think everyone one asking for a tip at the cashier is bad now?

Yeah, this will just make it even more prevalent for sure.

I think the proliferation of tips at almost every register instead of being limited to full service has been bad since the trend started.

In my state restaurants pay the federal tipped minimum of just over 2 dollars an hour. Their entire income is based on tips, and until they are required to be paid a living wage, tips are a necessary evil. I tip them well because I know they are getting screwed on their paychecks more than any other job.

Keep in mind that cash tips tend to not be taxed, which means less going into social security, medicare/medicaid, and other government services. It is still income! But when it was mostly cash it was effectively tax free.

Now that cards are prevalent it is getting taxed, and this 'no tax on tips' bullshit instead of requiring a living wage just benefits business. It is a counterproductive 'fix' and fuck tipping culture altogether.

You know what the worst outcome of non-taxed tips will be? The fucking wealthy tipping each other tax free to move money around. That is what it will end up being in a couple decades because that is consistent with every other similar 'fix' that just avoids requiring a living wage.

Good for Oregon. Until a living wage is implemented nationwide it is a problem that needs to be addressed.

In Oregon, even tipped workers make the state minimum wage, but what that wage is varies depending on location.

How is a varying amount depending on where you live a "state minimum wage"?

This isn't progress. It is actively incentiving having compensation be tips in the tax code.

This is stepping backwards. It actively incentivizes companies to not pay a liveable wage because tipped income doesn't get taxed.

That’s what they told us with Obama, and Clinton and look where we are. Fuck that. Either actually be a leftist or get out of the way for someone who will.

It takes exactly 4 years until the term is over and nothing gets done.

It always comes back to Reagan. This is what happens when you elect an actor celebrity with fucking active dementia to office. He becomes a useful tool to enact policy that the general public does not benefit from because he can remember the lines and deliver it in a package that they are willing to swallow.

Let's not do it again.

My answer would be that there shouldn't be tips. Everyone should be receiving a living wage and tips should be relegated to the vulgar past.

Most of them don't already. They just don't report cash tips on their taxes. This was a cheap way for Trump to gain votes, so Harris went along with it.

Your tip worker friends have been tricked into thinking that a consistent living wage would be less money.

Only because wages across the board are in the dumpster. If the kitchen guys were making $30/hr instead of $10/he they'd be complaining the other way

That's another fine suggestion.

The numbers didn't really look in line for today's incomes, and from what I can tell from this, tax brackets for anything but the highest earners haven't changed other than an inflation adjustment since the 80s.

It's just a title, it says what the article is about, but it can't say everything. But when everyone comments based on the title and not the article, we risk creating misinformation.

Trump and Harris can both say we should not tax tips, but if that's the end of the story from Trump, but it's part of a multi-pronged approach, that's what we need to be sharing and commenting on.

Everyone's points about tipped jobs being exploitative are correct, but that isn't what the article is about. If we just take it as Harris and Trump both want to do the same thing, that's a half truth, and that is what many of these comments perpetuate. Both sides or this are not the same, and it does a disservice to us all to treat it as such.

Having a more descriptive title can help, like if it said "Harris presents competing plan for removing tax on tips," but it is somewhat redundant as they wrote the entire rest of the article about it. I feel this is why we include the article with the post, and not just the title, no? 😉

I feel I'm sounding a bit harsh, which isn't my intent, but it irks me when I can go through a comment section and see just about everyone has missed the point.

Not much of a gift anymore when everyone expects a minimum of -- what is it now -- 25%? The expected minimum percentage keeps increasing as people endlessly grandstand about the amount they pay because of how much workers depend on tips for their income. Then there's shame at play if you don't comply, with some thinking it's okay to mess with the food if one doesn't pay the expected minimum "gift". It's really just extortion at that point.

Is my birthday work that I accomplish in order to earn money?

I don't know how you can think that a gift is the same as remuneration. Meet the workers after their shift to give them a hundred if you want it to be a gift, but if you're giving it to them as compensation for the work they've accomplished while they're on duty then it's income.

Because employers use tips as a reason to pay workers less, even less than minimum wage. It's a tax on the lower working class. Meanwhile executives like Bezos pay almost zero taxes.

those two things are not remotely comparable. obama said he would sign the freedom of choice act which never went to his desk:

"The bills were referred to the Judiciary Committees of the respective Houses. Neither bill received further action in the 108th Congress. The bills were reintroduced on April 19 2007 in the 110th Congress (H.R. 1964/S. 1173), but, like their predecessors, were referred to committee without further action. "

making mexico pay for united states infrastructure is something that could never happen unless we went to war with them. Its a blatant lie from the get go.

As far as taxing tips its about intent. Harris would do it the same as obama would sign the freedom of choice but she is not likely to put all resources to get congress to change the tax code in that way. so she gets a bill she can sign. trump on the other hand is just saying something he thinks people want to hear and would not sign a bill with it in there if it had lets say raised corporate taxes or such.

It’s just going to let him parallel his abortion stance where he claims Dems are for his positions until he does them