Trump Allies Sure Are Talking A Lot About Civil War
Trump Allies Sure Are Talking A Lot About Civil War
Donald Trump’s supporters keep raising the idea there’s violent conflict in America’s future
I split my time between Florida and Wyoming. I also don't fly so I drive between them through the "red heart" on the country. I see very little enthusiasm for Trump. Sure, I hear a lot of grumbling, and I am sure the Republicans will go out and vote en masse, but not because they love what Trump is selling. They just don't want to lose.
No fucking way they rise up for a civil war.
I live in Indiana where they have military training for civilians.
"For recreational purposes"
There's definitely some itching for it
I was just in south Arkansas for a week (family stuff). It's as red of an area as you can get. I saw a single Trump flag flying on a house, and zero bumper stickers. Living in Colorado (purple/leaning-blue), I saw TONS more Trump flags/stickers/etc 4 years ago. There is no enthusiasm at all.
I split my time between Florida and Wyoming. I also don’t fly so I drive between them through the “red heart” on the country. I see very little enthusiasm for Trump.
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Get in my car and drive 3000 miles through an endless barren wasteland
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Not a single Trump supporter to be found
I spent a weekend in NH and saw scores of Trump yard signs all through the suburbs around Manchester. They definitely exist, although they appear to be lining up along the New England Interstate to disguise their numbers.
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Not an American so I have no idea, but could that be the reason they want the revolution? As far as I understand first past the post, it usually means fighting over the center. The Republicans figured out, that by relying on radical voters and gerrymandering, they could win elections. However that leaves them open to a Canada 1993 type of election, where they are too radical, which turns off many traditional voters. That lead to them coming fourth in the election and they have not gotten back into power since.
A solution for that would be a coup and not having a fair election ever again.
From Midwestlandia, here is what I have noticed.
The enthusiasm for Trump is really starting to deflate. Reality has set in he is an old coward bitch, and he isn’t worth voting for. (Not that I am going to vote for a n*****! - heard that one plenty as well)
However, the rabid supporters of him want a civil war. This is Ruby Ridge level insanity of them wanting to drive into cities and start attacking people. All it takes is a few of them to go to Democratic areas on Election Day and stir up shit to sway the vote.
Well, they won't have a choice if they elect trump
Which side of the war do they think the U.S. military will be on?
That’s always been my thing when I’ve heard of civil war breaking out.
Like sure… I imagine there’s a not insignificant portion of military personnel who would be on the side of these dipshits…. But what about the equipment? Sure a good bit of things will likely come up missing in inventory, but I’d be remiss to say they’ll make off with too many F-16’s or Abrams Main Battle Tanks.
Billy Bob with his Tactical Fat™️ and his AR-15 won’t be very effective on the urban battlefield.
What worries me is that fighting an insurgency has and is always going to be hard. They know the terrain, the people, and can be unpredictable.
Sure, the military does tons of training for all sorts of different situations and terrain. But I think as we see with Ukraine, a lot of can be done with relatively low tech munitions. And let's not forget the military surplus and retired equipment in the hands of local PDs which aren't going to align with the military.
I think the military has tons of tech and equipment. But that's not a guarantee they will stomp y'all queda. I think they'll be conservative with their weapons and gear. They aren't going to carpet bomb farms.
Generally speaking, the American military leadership is very mission oriented and not interested in politics. POGs wouldn't muck around in that. I think the bigger concern would be state guard forces being ordered to do something illegal by a governor, and the federal military brass going "we don't want anything to do with that, sort it out in court and congress" and other states following suit.
You’re assuming that Project 2025 won’t succeed at firing all the sensible military leadership (like all of it down to the O-7s) and replacing them with True Believers.
In Ukraine in 2014, they had retired military people coming out of retirement and joining up with the protest movements and kind of showing them what to do, in the semi-shooting war… would it play out that way in the US? Or some other way?
I’m a little bit exaggerating what level it might realistically get to, and I sort of share your optimism on some level, actually… but it’s fucking terrifying to be in a position of depending on the military leadership to be the backstop against the takeover.
Generally speaking, the American military leadership is very mission oriented and not interested in politics.
A number of high ranking US military officers have taken sidelong glances at the political scene. Colin Powell was kept out of the 2000 race by Bush, when he was offered the Sec. State position. Wesley Clark tried to run for the Dem nomination in 2008. Stanley McCrystal and David Petraeus flirted with the GOP nod in 2012, while both advocating for a "National Service" requirement for all US Citizens. Joe Sestak ran as a presidential nominee for the Democrats in 2016. 82 sitting US House Reps are ex-military as are 17 Senators, with the vast majority (72/25) aligning with the Republican Party. Plenty of aspiring state and local politicians use their military careers as launch pads for elected office.
The problem most officers suffer from is a complete lack of charisma. All these people suck at working a crowd. Put Mad Dog Mad Ass at the top of a ticket and it'll tank the moment he opens his mouth. It isn't that American military leadership lacks political ambition, its that they're a chronically awful picks. Even the ostensibly photogenic ones, like Tom "Unapologetically a Fascist" Cotton and Dan "The Pirate King" Crenshaw, absolutely suck dick at building up a popular base.
100% the liberal side. Yes, the military is conservative, but in the "conservatives give us a larger budget" kind of way. And not in the "we hate minorities" kind of way. The military is way more diverse than one would think. Manly because Jim Bob who is a racist would never make it past boot camp, because people with prejudices don't make good teammates.
Honestly? It'll probably be a messy split.
They can't decide if the Woke Deep State has bimbofied the American military elite or MAGA has the liberal pedophile cartels surrounded and the Patriots Are In Control. Just sorta depends on what kind of drugs Alex Jones just took before the episode started. Either way, its all fucking fan fiction.
The goal is to juice up the base for election day and milk them for their retirement accounts, not to actually get anyone into the streets. As soon as J6 started, the right-wing zoo crew labeled the whole crowd Antifa Fifth Columnists and started calling for the national guard to surround them and open fire.
I don't think the US military is devoid of MAGAts but--as my younger self would say--I'd like to see them try some shush.
The side that's paying, duh. ;p
Can DEMOCRATS please TONE DOWN their Violent Rhetoric! Their Violent Rherotic might lead to an Assassination Attempt!
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Can DEMOCRATS please TONE DOWN their Violent Rhetoric!
It seems to me you are confusing things, on who has the violent rhetoric.
This comes from the very beginning of the article:
“I’m afraid if we lose this one, it’s going to take a civil war to save the country — and it will be saved,” Lang said Monday.
And the text that follows is full of more examples, the following are just a couple of those
“If Stephen Richer walked in this room, I would lynch him,”
“some folks need killing!"
These stuff do not come from dems, so you might want to reconsider what you said
So, suppose Harris gets elected, she will be in the right if she locks these people up for this, since the stance of the SC is that a president can do anything as long as it's an official act?
Trump allies are the only ones talking about a civil war
FIFY, Rolling Stone. xoxo
It has been said that as low as 3 to 4 percent of a population needs to be involved in a coup for it to be successful. The alt -right population is more than that percentage now
Yeah, but it has to be a specific 3-4 percent. They have to be in positions of power, in the military, the judiciary, and the executive branches, or they have to take those positions by force.
Y'all Quada tried to take the Capitol, but cried like babies when one terrorist was killed. They won't get nearly that far next time.
It's a junk figure as far as am I'm aware. The whole 3% American revolution really isn't a thing.
as low as 3 to 4 percent of a population needs to be involved in a coup
10M people. A pittance. A drop in the bucket. Barely anyone at all.
The alt -right population is more than that percentage now
Memaw and Pep Pep will begin the glorious uprising against the cowardly American Imperialist Dogs right after they finish watching their Matlock.
well, Republicans are traitors. Has that not been clear over the past 8 years, if not since the mid 19th century?
I just finished that Civil War movie last night. Anyone who thinks they want Civil War should be forced to watch that movie. Anyone who still thinks they want it after that should get their heads examined.
Yeah well they used to talk a lot about Mexico paying for a wall. Seems that ended so embarrassingly they don't mention it anymore
That's because the Trump campaign is Russian operation, and its goal is American civil war.
They know where they are heading.
That was a fun movie. I liked the Spider-Man reveal
Hate for it to come to that but sometimes you gotta tap some heads to clear them