'Everyone in the World Needs to See This': Footage Shows IDF Drone Killing Gazans

Regardless of your political views... The fact you can watch civilians being blown up and be like "justice" is pretty raw dude. I think you need to have a think about how you relate to the world... and other humans.

I think they had their justice about 29,000 deaths ago, if lives are considered equal.

Who said that? I'd be happy for the people who did Oct 7th to be brought to justice. I doubt you'd say the same for the criminals in Israel's leadership and military.

I doubt you'd say the same.

This is an untenable position. There is no good side, but Israel is committing atrocities beyond recognition.

You're a disgrace. A perfect fit in Israel, I bet you'd be buddies with fuckhisfaceyahoo or you wish you were.

certainly these 4 kids had nothing to do with that

Hi, resident American combat vet here. This is egregious by any standard but a genocidal regime. It's a pretty clear rule, if they aren't armed or uniformed, you don't shoot them.

You're a disgrace. A perfect fit in Israel, I bet you'd be buddies with fuckhisfaceyahoo or you wish you were.

The other way would be that they weren't genocidal and maybe the problem wouldn't have happened in the first place. Israel and Hamas are both despicable groups but there's a clear instigator in Israel.

Only on the way back from the bar.

I don't think you read that comment correctly.

The secondary explosion proves they were terrorists? You sound like a conspiracy theorist.

Staying on the topic at hand, and only that, this is war. Killing an enemy on the field has no system of public review. Everything is internal. Neither IDF or Hammas has to provide proof of anything to anybody for any reason except when propagandantistic PR is at play (like you mentioned). At least not now. There will surely be tribunals after this war is "settled." The only direction proof goes is up the chain of command. I won't pretend to understand the complexity of target selection and acquisition (especially foreign nations and certainly not terrorists), but I know that that's how it works. There is no burden of proof, whatsoever.

Those are the cold facts.

Opinion, etc: I hope you don't read this as some kind of defence or exoneration of any malicious, evil, callous, or accidental killing commited of innocents. I unequivocally do not want or excuse killing civilians. Anyone who does is hideously evil. However, I think a reality check is necessary.

The "burden of proof" is a security blanket most of the world enjoys and vaguely understands. When they see some horrible violence of war, fed to them without context by compromised sources, it's easy to make assumptions and demand justice. And many of those times, you should, just ideally without the assumptions and propaganda. This isn't one of this times. I know that the IDF is commiting war crimes, but this video is just war.

I would also like to know why this camera drone is there, and why it's following these guys, and how the operator has the best luck getting perfect footage.

Edit: This seems to be leaked footage from an Israeli intelligence/targeting drone. If that's true, then that would prove that at least one of these were military targets.

Based on the video and logical deduction, this scenario seems to be the most probable.

If someone has another hypothesis on this subject, I would be very interested to read it. Assuming you don't just downvote and attack me.

This is very interesting.

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This reasoning is based on emotional assumptions and simplistic, naive logic.

The IDF doesn't have to explain anything, and neither does Hamas. This is war, not a riot.

The source you gave is from a biased organization.

Even landmine would make more sense. You can usually see projectile falling from the sky in wide shots like these and there are none.

That's speculation based on a tweet from Israeli propaganda. You can see the missiles in the video.

The burden of proof is on those doing the killing

I agree with your points. I'm gonna reply to you but be talking to anyone reading too. Thanks for your comment and critique.

Flat out though, the IDF is killing civilians. This is known.

But based off the comments and videos, I don't think anything is known at all, but it seems unlikely these were civilians. Bizarrely, nearly everyone in this thread, and everyone who is going to downvote me, seems to want them to be civilians.

I would assume people would prefer them to be Hamas, who are terrorists and at the very least complicit in the massacre and kidnapping of Israeli civilians.

Outrage eliminates critical thinking and then anything that reinforces that outrage must be true.

I trust Al Jazeera, and I mourned their closure of Al Jazeera America as I was a supporter. But I could never trust anything they wrote about Israel and Gaza. It was barely veiled propaganda. This video is incindiary sensationalism because we are given zero context, but lots of guessing. By releasing this grizzly footage without context, that shows intent to exploit emotions and let us fill in the gaps. People really suck at this.

I'm really glad a bunch people, especially people like you, replied. It was fairly easy to separate the wheat from the chaff (that doesn't mean only people who confirmed my suspicions btw) They/you spoke in terms of fact, objectivity, not in guesses, assumptions, and emotion.

To anyone who reads this ramble: If any journalist, holy-person, video, podcast, head-of-state, or meme is demanding your outrage, do not trust them because that is what propaganda looks like. This is a foundational aspect of media literacy and resisting the influence of power.

This is insanity. To be blocked about what I asked? How I asked if? Unbelievable avoidance.

Thanks for pointing that out its hard to spot with the rubble in the background.

Does the fact that's an obvious lie (you can clearly see a second missile come from the top left) make you more or less likely to support the IDF? Anything's fair in war and genocide right...

care to come back on this comment?

There is video evidence that it's a second missile posted in the comments already... Did you miss it?

Nsfl https://imgur.com/a/e1XWdfY

I was talking about the author of the article. But thanks

Ok, so you believe they were just random targets and nothing significant happened before this footage to make them become targets?

Have they been identified?

Right, so why let other two million walk normally?

I'm not trying to be dense here, but is there a better way to conquer and take land? If taking the land is the strategic objective, how else should they proceed other than to clear it off its current populace?

If that's their goal, aren't they progressing rather slowly? Gaza's population is growing, not diminishing.

Then they are doing a shit job, considering almost 2 million of them remains. Either that or that's not the goal.

Where did you hear that? On Chinese TikTok?

You people are brain dead beyond belief. "thEy dOnT wAlk liKe miLitAnts" lmao

Que?

Cucked into believing he cares suddenly before an election? Meanwhile sending billions of dollars of weapons to Israel? Are you really that gullible? And no idea what Trump has to do with this. You're right though, Palestine is cooked.