In its IPO documents, Reddit said the price and volume of its stock could “experience extreme volatility for reasons unrelated to our underlying business.”
My sentiments exactly. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, as annoying as they can be. Now that I'm not using reddit I wish them the best of luck wreaking havoc.
Does form an interesting premise though for a collectivist tool of anticapitalist warfare.
Firms taking short positions are some of the most low down parts of the stock and trade system, so you could cost the parasites millions and billions by organizing mass buys of stock on firms with shorted stock, and the best part is that the folks holding shorted positions can lose infinitely, so basically enough people working together would be able to pull the equivalent of stringing the leaches up by their nutsack and then dragging them around by it on a gravel pathway by horseback
Somebody should go ahead and get a dedicated WSB instance going so that they can migrate easily after Reddit bans them. I want them contained because they are a toxic community, but I also want them to short the Reddit stock because it would be hilarious.
Yeah. Being mostly comprised of Incel, conspiracy, Q / Trump shills who think they can predict the future better than their peers will do that to a community.
God it was glorious back before all these people though. Watching people gamble on their tuition or turn a $50k loan into -$300,000 of debt for memes was fucking hilarious.
What actually happened to the gamestop thing. Did the government end up getting involved and shutting it down? There was some shady shit going on for a while.
How would reddit even tank the price? Shorting is just a way for them to lose money if they are wrong.
Short selling is used when you expect a stock to drop in price. You “borrow” a stock from someone and immediately sell it for the current price. You have an agreement to return the borrowed stock to them within [x] time. So let’s say you borrow the stock and sell it for a nice even $100.
But you’re expecting the stock price to drop significantly. So when it drops to $60, you’ve now made $40. Because you sold it for $100 and now you can buy it at $60 to return it to the lender. If the price has dropped, you make money because you keep the difference between your sale price and your purchase price.
The issue with this is that your potential for loss is technically unlimited. If the price never drops, you never make money. Or even worse, if it increases, you stand to lose money. And since there’s no price cap on stocks, you can theoretically lose an unlimited amount. Since you’re legally obligated to return that stock to the person you borrowed it from, you can be forced into buying the stock for exorbitant prices if it increases.
The GameStop thing was caused by something called a short squeeze. Basically, a bunch of people expected the stock to drop, so they were all shorting it. Someone realized this, posted about it, and people started buying up all the available stock and refusing to sell. Now all of those people who had sold the stock and were hoping to buy it back cheap found that there was nobody to buy it from.
They increased their offer price. Still nobody to buy it from. They increased the offer again. Still nobody to buy it from. And as more shorts matured and more people were legally obligated to buy the stock, the more the price increased. It’s a simple supply and demand calculation: The demand was rapidly increasing as more people were legally obligated to return the stocks they had borrowed, and the supply had suddenly evaporated because people were outright refusing to sell. And this has a cascading effect, as people see the price spiking and refuse to sell because they expect it to continue to climb. This is where all the “to the moon” and rocket memes came from, because stock owners planned to hold until the price made it all the way to the moon.
Some vendors like Robinhood stopped allowing people to buy GameStop stock. The idea was that it would limit the shorters’ potential losses, by keeping the dwindling supply from being completely bought out. The hope was that once people were banned from buying more, they would begin to sell. But this only pissed a lot of people off, because it was a blatant attempt at manipulating the market. It was a blatant shield for the trust funds who had historically had a stranglehold on the markets. It was seen as the rich helping the rich, because that’s exactly what it was.
Shady shit did go down but a lot of money was moved from the wealthy to the not as wealthy. I don’t think the government did anything except interview a few of the major players.
Every once in a while you’ll see a fancy car with a license plate that references gme, mooning, or wsb.
Which is funny, because considering Reddit was trying to get users to buy in on their IPO, they probably thought they could weaponize the whole "diamond hands" meme again, and get everyone to shoot reddits "stonks" "to the moon!"
They've always been behind the curve, from the crypto that never launched to the NFT avatars to the streaming stuff to the IPO now being laughably belated.
WSB incels are essentially immune to a failed short.
Yeah, shorting theoristically has no ceiling on potential loss, but most of these retail kids don't have enough assets for a squeeze to really do anything.
Owing somebody a thousand dollars and owing someone a billion dollars are the same thing for them.
Considering they're DMing certain Reddit users (their most active users, according to the DM) about being given a chance buy Reddit stock during the IPO (that's not strictly PR speak; they're actually setting aside some stock for their users), that's entirely possible.
I think it's to limit damage from subreddits like WSB. If a bunch of your most active users own stock, they will be slandering WSB and calling for the ban of the subreddit when they eventually want to short it.
If Apollo for Reddit still worked, I’d probably still be there too. But at the same time I’m pretty thankful that things happened the way they did because it really opened my eyes to how dissatisfied I was with corporate social media and I feel so much more engaged in my hobbies and their communities now on the fediverse.
It helps that I am already primarily interested in tech, web, and networking (with some retro gaming mixed in) so the fediverse was already a suitable replacement. I feel for people whose communities are dead here.
I hope they short it into the sub-basement. I hate those twats, especially when I modded /r/amc, but I might just have to cheer for them if they can snowball the Reddit IPO. It would be spectacular.
Was about to comment basically the same thing. They are ableist morons who are poster children for the Dunning-Kruger effect with their YOLOing and HODLing and whatnot, but them fucking over spez would make my god damned decade and I'd raise a glass to those cunts.
I'm surprised (but not upset) that WSB hasn't set up a dedicated Lemmy server. Surely they must think they've grown big enough to not need reddit anymore.
I mean, for wallstreetbets that's actually a good fit. It's not like they're creating a knowledge base, it's just an endless stream of memes - exactly what discord was designed for.
Why would they? They have a platform in Reddit, and that's a platform that people know. Lemmy is still fairly niche, so unless something happens like WSB getting deleted by the Reddit admins I don't see why they'd bother.
Spreading fake news. Imagine a never seen before tripartite alliance, for only one goal, of Reddit, 4Chan and Fediverse, working together and trying to tank Reddit Inc. It could be historical.
I'd say we direct the grand final towards the EU courts, putting the final nail down.
Put simply, the company warned potential investors that one of its subreddits, the infamous r/WallStreetBets, could make its stock price and volume extremely volatile—and there’s little Reddit can do about it.
It’s entirely possible that the everyday people on r/WallStreetBets, a subreddit of 15 million retail investors who refer to themselves as “apes” and “degenerates,” and other online forums could do the same thing with Reddit’s stock, the company stated.
The volatility could cause people to lose all or part of their investment, the company explained, if they are unable to sell their shares at or above the IPO price.
The long-term effect of movements like those propelled by r/WallStreetBets is already documented, with the takeaway being that surges of interest and heavy investment don’t necessarily bring success to companies over time.
Furthermore, shares purchased by users and moderators will not be subject to a lockup, the period after an IPO where insiders and early investors are banned from selling their stock to prevent the price from going down.
The top post on the subreddit on Friday morning—“Reddit lists WSB as a risk factor for its IPO 😏”—had thousands of comments as of the publication of this article.
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almost you shouldn't place cheeky little bets on if a company will succeed or not. bet on sports like a normal person. shareholders ruin every single company