If I'm not being waited on, don't look at me to provide you the rest of your wage. Look to your employer.
No matter what, it's always the employer who should pay the whole wages even when you're being waited on
Why is it arbitrarily OK for waiting jobs?
It shouldn’t be, but it’s US law.
https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/wagestips
An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage.
Fuck this law, and fuck employers that try to skirt around it when tips are too low. Also fuck employers in general who aren’t willing to pay their employees a living wage.
I tip for waiting jobs because I know people work for shitty employers and it’s their primary income source. But I hate the system, not the people who need tips to get by.
It's systemic, the employees didn't put the tips screen in the POS system.
Then don’t go to businesses that don’t pay their employees a fair wage. Don’t just handwave it away while contributing to the problem.
I don't. I actually live in a country where tipping is not customary. Now let's talk about your problems... Why do you assume the worst in people? You could have said the exact same thing without attacking everybody.sThe world is a large place and things are not always like they are in your neighborhood
Of course, it is common sense when entering an establishment for the first time to do a business model analysis to see if the employees are getting shafted.
That is not my problem. In this day and age where prices if food have gone through the roof, sorry, but I usually search for the cheapest place there is. I have a fixed income as well.
Easier said than done if you ever want to eat out. So I just tip and grumble about it.
Or maybe don't work at such a place? Don't agree to an unfair deal. Quit. Force the employer to change.
Lol.Everyone thinks you're dumb.
You shouldn't have to pay tips. Which part of the world entertains this shenanigans?
Canada is debatably worse than the US when it comes to tipping. In the US, wait staff are paid less than minimum wage so it makes sense to tip them (even though the system should change),, but in Canada they is no such exception and the minimum prompt is 18%.
Also, the other day Subway prompted me to tip...
US Subway store point of sale systems are asking for tips as well now. It’s really off putting. I hope no one starts tipping there, it’s already too expensive for what you get.
No need to feed to the problem with this business practice. I only tip those with occupations that have already required tips prior to the pandemic. It’s like the existing nuclear pacts. No one is allowed to start obtaining nukes if they didn’t have any before!
While Canada has no explicit exception to the minumum wage law, the minimum wage in Canada is still laughable and is absolutely not survivable for how expensive living here is.
Though the solution here is not tipping, which ignores every other customer service and """unskilled""" labour worker that isn't in food service. It should be raising the minimum wage to a post inflation value that reflects current costs of living, and committing to continuously updating it so it stays even with inflation and rising costs in general (not unheard of, some European countries for example use a formula to calculate every year's minimum wage based on current inflation and cost of living). Actually, we shouldn't have a single national minimum wage but one depending on where you live so it reflects your actual survival expenses. Both Vancouver and Vanderhoof enjoy fast food and coffee shops but the employees in the former have a much harder time living in the city they work in than the latter despite doing the same work and making the same contribution to their fellow residents (or if nothing else, they do more work in a larger city with more people while not being able to afford the larger city).
And yeah, Subway's been doing that for a while, at least in the part of Canada I am.
The US where it is ethical to barely pay your employees
The Czech Republic does. Don't know how common it is in other European countries.
The worst part is that many businesses are introducing this tipping scheme.
I hate how tipping is now customary at every single restaurant now, including places without servers.
Just wait until you visit a restaurant that automatically adds 18% gratuity then also expects you to tip on to of that.
Yeah I've been to a restaurant (a few weeks ago) where the bill included a line item that said something like "18% hospitality fee - to ensure our workers are fairly compensated, this is not a tip"
Like WTF.
If it was disclosed anywhere on the menu, I didn't see it.
Been there, won't return.
Even a large party... We brought you business, so you lower your service standards?
Fuck that. Pay your staff.
Also, it's uh, racist. https://archive.is/20230906072713/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/opinion/minimum-wage-racism.html
That's when I just let them have the hole they dug. I'd normally at least tip 20% (usa of course.)
I get that the service staff has little to no control over this charge, but I got it earlier tonight on a party of two. No extra service, no check-ins, no waters, nothing other than "here ya go." They even had a QR code to order and pay with phone number, email, and address requirement even though I'm out of town on a one off drop in.
The best is when they add the percentage POST TAX!!!
Just reading this makes me angry. Bravo.
I keep hearing this, but I've never encountered it. Still only given a tip screen on debit machines at regular sit down restaurants. Never once seen it in a fast food or retail environment.
If some fucker tries to guilt me into tipping in Europe like this, they get "no tip", then a 1 star review on Maps and TripAdvisor explaining exactly why they spoiled my experience
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In the US we obviously have had the problem of tipping for some time, but it was covid that sent everything completely off the rails. Once lockdown started, you starting tipping places even though you weren’t dining, and then even places where I wouldn’t have tipped before, if they asked for a tip I was usually giving a tip out of sympathy, and so on. And then lockdown ended but these things never went away. They came in under the radar at a time when nobody would protest the idea.
There's no reason why we can't start doing that in the US too, and yet I never thought of doing that until your comment
If there's a tip screen between me and my payment I don't pay. Fuck em. Supermarket self serve tried to fuck around and find out once with those requests for donations so that the company making billions in profit can get some more pr off your dime, groceries were cheap that week.
The problems with tipping culture aside, the eyes in this strip are just perfect. I love it.
I was thinking the same thing. So much is conveyed just by the eyes.
I don't understand how it could ever become acceptable for wages to be paid directly by the customer rather than by the company.
My rule of thumb: if they would refill my drink then this is a tipping place. Non-food places are judged case by case. The rest are laughed at and I do my best not to come back.
I'm a school bus driver and we get tipped (at Christmas and the end of the year). It's fucking ridiculous. One of my coworkers last year even handed out tip envelopes to the kids - and got suspended for it, fortunately. Imagine being a parent and seeing that bullshit when your kid brings it home.
I don't throw away the gift cards, of course, but it genuinely means a lot more to me when I get a hand-written card from one of my kids (especially if it's not accompanying money).
BBQ place I go to asks for tips at the checkout counter where you order food and pay. Then you get a number. They bring your food out and bus the table when you're done. But that's it. You get your own drink, condiments, cutlery.
I cannot for the life of me figure out why I would tip before any service is rendered and there's no way to tip after.
Ridiculous. I wouldn't feel comfortable eating there. I get it, it's supposed to guarantee a tip for your server, but that's breaking the tipping social contract. I don't know if your server is actually good at their job. Not only that, but it doesn't sound like you ever receive service in this place.
I think the only people who can be defensible over American style tipping in this day and age are people with an uncommon degree of wealth and are patrons of specialty boutiques who likely never frequent places operated by your average wage earner.
So you know, wine country vegan artisan type shit. The $800 dollar hair salon appointment holders. The $60 dollar tequila shot buyer.
And while they can be defensible over their tipping, it often is the case they themselves are not defensible in their economic participation.
I'd say that when you buy overpriced shit you're especially exempt from tipping, since you already tipped through the ridiculous markup.
I feel this so much.
I dont eat at resturants and I dont cut my hair so the only people I tip are tow truck drivers.
Why the f would I tip my barber? I'm already paying him for the haircut!
I had a $20 to the korean lady who buzzes my head. The $5 tip for the $15 haircut is easier than navigating change. Keeps the flow moving ao she can just yell next and we're good.
I was raised to do that. Did it for decades. 🤷♀️
Don't just complain here, start leaving 1-star reviews for companies that ask for tips for no reason.
It's the quickest way to hurt their business and show that it's unacceptable
I don't tip, ever, even if the service is good. No one tips me at my job regardless how I do it.
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What is your daily intake of waiter spit by volume?
I don't live in the US BTW.
I am sorry, I am not tipping 2$ for people to turn around and get my coffee from a tap.
Tipping waiters will be my final compromise with tipping culture. I never order delivery from app because I refuse to be forced to tip the delivery person after being charged delivery fee and serivce fee. I also do not tip countertop worker.
is that really necessary for American?
Yes. It's extremely common to have some device that asks you how much you want to tip before you can complete the transaction. They are nearly always placed in a spot and angled so the employees can see it too, guilting customers in to tipping.
That's one of the things I hated when I visited Norway. I didn't expect to see that in a European country.
US made software rules the world.
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pro tip: 7-11 has self serve coffee
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I only tip my waiters and my landlords.
Smh at all these down voters who don't tip their hardworking landlords. Who do you think holds this world together?
Always remember to tip your landlords, the most exploited class in society.
In fact, what are you doing living in their house? What, just because you're paying for it? Are you trying to forcibly evict them from their private property?! You housing-addicted loser. /s
