I recently met two Albertans out here in South Korea at a bar. They were on the other side of the bar from me, and when they walked past, I greeted them as an Ontarian and offered to shake their hands. They both declined the handshake and proudly announced, "We're not on the same team."
That was a few weeks ago. I'm still disturbed by it. I knew Albertans had a reputation because of the politicking there. But I hadn't realized it would be so blatant. That same night, two South Africans happily asked me my thoughts on Trump, and I was perhaps too honest in my first statement, and they grew upset with me and insisted he was good for Canadians and South Africans, both.
I left the bar not long after. Haven't seen those four come back, so there is a bright side to the story, at least.
Lol they should fucking stay in South Korea. They are definately in the minority, it's a larger minority then most of Canadas opinion but goddamn they are still a minority. Should have told them to never fucking come back
Conservative Americans in shambles reading this as they find out that we do Infact own guns in Canada and are proud to own them. We just don't get all fucking pussy about not being able to own fully automatic ones with 50 round magazines lol.
Liberal American here, for a long time conservatives here have miscalculated how well armed many of us are. The anti-gun crowd (not to be confused with gun control) are just the vocal minority on the issue, giving the impression that liberals hate guns. My gun safe begs to differ, and I own more guns than any conservative I know.
No, heโs not. Even if he could get congressional approval, which is highly unlikely, the military would have to comply with the order. The likelihood of that happening, I canโt even fathom.
The USA needs congressional approval to officially go to war against another sovereign nation. Like with Afghanistan or Iraq. BUT Republicans control the house and Senate, and sure if they're that fucking delusional they could vote for it. But with that being said, it would 100% rip America apart and they fucking deserve it. Not only would we not put up with that shit and I would gladly shoot any foreign soldier on our land, it would mean the Russians getting exactly what they wanted.
Americans reading this, GET YOUR FUCKING SHIT TOGETHER or you or your friends are going to start fucking dying on our fucking land for no other reason than a fat orange fucks vanity. You will be ostracized by the developed world and I for one will never fucking forgive you.
They voted for this. So I don't have any sympathy for them saying Trump doesn't represent them. He does. They go on and on about how they're the greatest country in the world, and how their government is 'of the people, by the people, for the people'. They're more responsible for the actions of their government than any other nation is for theirs.
And the American mentality is that their pride will never let them admit if they're wrong. So even though they may know that talks of annexation and taking away our country are beyond offensive, they can't say it. They have to say that it's for some greater good that no one else can see, even if they know it's BS. But the problem is, short of NATO putting troops in our country to help fight off an invasion, I don't know what would stop the US from just trying to take whatever they want in the name of 'freedom'. And the funny thing is, on the Cato Human Freedom Index, which measures a person's person, economic and civil freedom, we rank higher than the US. We're #11, and the US, the leader of the free world, is #17. So how are they the 'freest nation' in the world? Why would we downgrade ourselves by joining them? We wouldn't. No one would. Unless it was by force.
I've said this before, and I meant it then; the mentality of the US is that they're basically a r***** telling their victim that if they lay down and let them (USA) have their way with them, they won't get hurt. THAT's the US right now. They're our neighbours, but they're NOT our friends. And they probably never were. They just finished hurting other nations, and decided to turn their attention to us.
Looks like. All the signs are there and steps have been taken in preparation. The forcing of Canadians to register and get finger printed in the next 30 days was the icing on the cake. Now we wait and see how this unfolds.
The National Post is a US billionaire owned right wing propaganda rag that most Canadians wouldn't wipe their ass with. If they're saying this it's a warning that should be heeded.
He clearly wants Canada, but it's not clear he wants it that bad. If he thinks more expensive electricity is a nasty move he's probably not too hot about stuff and people blowing up.
I suspect the next few months will be a lot like the past one for Canada. Not better or worse.
The problem is this harmful and terrifying idea of annexing Canada will remain even after trump is gone. Vance is a young dude, him or whoever is the successor will advance Trunps policies and priorities, after the next president even. Canada needs to shift away from the US long term.
A lot of people in the US will say they don't support it, and will speak out against it, but when the forces deploy, the American people won't do anything to stop it. They won't stage walkouts, or take actions that will cripple their economy at home in protest, because it will cause them inconvenience and pain.
They'll just say they're against it, that they're morally outraged, and will offer 'thoughts and prayers'. Nothing more.
Historically, the US has never acquired territory by force, and even then Emperor Clementine would need a 2/3 majority vote in the Senate to ratify and prove the annexation was legal, which I doubt he'll get.
Yes, it's bad. We'd lose. Maybe they'd lose too, but if so it's going to involve Taliban-like timelines and Afghanistan-like living conditions that whole time.
Ya I want him to try as well. I am so fucking sick of republicans and magats dragging down the entire human race. Can you imagine what the world would be like if bush didn't steal the election from al gore? No war in the middle east, probably would have resulted is way better relations between countries all around the world. Would have resulted in more prosperity for everyone. Would have been a massive coordinated effort to fight climate change. They'd probably have healthcare by now. To this day republicans have been hell bent on destroying the world. I hope they come to Canada. Wiping them out would be the highest possible purpose my life could ever serve. Even if I could only take out one of those magat freaks with me, it would be worth it. Lets fucking go, ill be ready.
Even if he fails, our quality of life would significantly decrease. Not really wanting to become an insurgent and get my brains blown out by a delta force operator or something. Not saying we should back down in any case, but the prospect of an invasion like that is scary af.
I also want him to try, mostly because I think that may finally be the straw that gets someone to successfully snipe him. All it will take is some pissed off hosier with better aim than the last guy.
And get all our fucking data off Azure and AWS servers already. The fact we did this in the first place has bothered me since day 1. I don't care if the data centres are in Canada, they're owned by a foreign company and "trust me bro" isn't a security policy.
Russia's objective isn't tariffs -- it's to splinter/decouple international coordination and cooperation amongst western nations.
So, yeah. The faster Trump can accelerate that, the happier his boss'll be.
Like the buy[local] type campaigns are most likely getting a bit of a bump from Russian propaganda agents -- even if they are 'real' sentiments to some extent too.
I think there's a plan to entertain the US with some conflict while Russia does some shit so it can't intervene later on. Their only true opposition as far as tech goes is the US army so it makes sense to disable it. I also have a feeling part of this is an attempt to normalize the invasion of other countries. And what better way to accomplish it all than to push the US out of NATO so the former Soviet countries are easy pickings for Russia.
It's like watching the Kremlin call the shots at this point. What Trump is doing makes no sense without thinking What Would Putin Do?
The dipshits that voted for him didnโt take him seriously either, they just wanted to fuck over the left, who theyโve been told is a enemy and threat for the last 25 years on Fox and AM radio. The other group that didnโt take him seriously were the ones who sat out or protest voted.
No one wants to be america. People want to be human beings that are able live as human beings. People don't want to be pawns to a machine that sucks humanity and souls from living bodies.
Same. Like, damn, I'm a queer leftist woman who takes an SSRI. This administration wants me in a camp for sure and I would happily change nationalities if it were possible. I'm rooting for the Canadians (and the rest of the world that isn't insane), except PP and his ilk.
It's true. It feels like the only place on the planet that rewards being that ignorant and hateful lout at the party who thinks compassion is some type of gay sex.
I went through my ancestry last week with the hope I'd have something to grant me citizenship elsewhere. My dad's side went back 6 generations and I still didn't find anyone outside the US. My mother's was 5 generations before I hit Austria and Germany.
Do Canadians not do that? I'd have thought so considering Canada has had waves of settlers much like the US; but I've not met many Canadians, so I wouldn't know.
I will shortly be declaring a National Emergency on Electricity within the threatened area. This will allow the U.S to quickly do what has to be done to alleviate this abusive threat from Canada.
This shit is ominous. This demon is ready to invade and take control of the Quรฉbec-Windsor corridor.
I think Ontario has already paused the Export tax unfortunately. But I would absolutely call his bluff. An attack on Canada would mean a full-blown article 5 crisis before Trump has all of the cards that he wants. While he might be that stupid. Others in his administration aren't.
Just in case, a good show from Carney would be to deploy the military to the area because of an increased threat of terrorism.
Lol at there no longer being a border problem. How exactly does this change ANYTHING about guns and fentanyl crossing between Canada and the US? And whatever immigration problems Trump is complaining about would be completely moot if suddenly the entire country are now forced to become US immigrants.
Because in that syphilis riddled brain, the orange-blunder has had the brain-shart concept slip out of the diseased sections and into what passes for a consciousness, that by only having a state line, there is no border, and so he will have solved "the border crisis". This is not a rational human being we're dealing with, it's a geriatric puppet-dictator who very likely has some form of degenerative brain condition.
Someone else said musk is prob forcing him to do it because he want to be the next president. Since he has canadian nationality he'll be able to gun for president.
Kinda crazy guess, but they are crazy so ๐คทโโ๏ธ
This broadcasts his insecurities about being clueless how the economy or anything works, and has surrounded himself with yes men idiots that can't even bail him out of this hole he dug himself. A big tell is he is so pissed he is giving them over 4 wks to lift their electricity premium.
As an American I say Canada should just go the "we don't bargain with terrorists" approach and just cut the electric today. Call the bully's bluff.
I like to remind my fellow Americans who think Canadians are push-overs that the Nazis feared fighting Canadians more than any other Allied force because of how much more relentless they were on the battlefield.
What are the protocols/powers involved in declaring something a national emergency? Like what decision power does the president gain in that scenario?
EDIT: This site seems to cover a lot of the benefits gained and what protections are in place to limit overreach, but given the current state of affairs I canโt imagine why Congress would reign in the abuse.
The national guard, on the Canadian Border perhaps, nearest the manufacturing and farming corridor of the neighbor he has been openly threatening to annex, in one of the most heavily populated areas in the country with access to be the largest volume of fresh water in the world perhaps?
I think they should secede and form their own union and then we can ally with them at least as close as we allied with the US. I don't wanna let them in until they've dealt with the baggage that'll come with that breakup, like the gun obsessed rednecks.
You are not wrong but by proportional representation where Democrats far outnumber them, they will never win in policy so long as we don't do something stupid like voting by land rather than people.
He's trying to normalize this by actively repeating the crazy. Not to mention that Canada itself is comprised of multiple provinces that are mostly larger than many US States, so this would be more than 51st state (sorry this bothers me a bit even with all the crazy).
Dear President Trump and the Republican Party of the United States,
Canada is a federation of 10 provinces, each with sovereignty equal to, if not greater than, the states in your Union, whose sovereignty and rights you are such great champions of.
Therefore Canada would not become the 51st state. It would become the 51st, 52nd, 53rd, 54th, 55th, 56th, 57th, 58th, 59th and 60th states. Each with two senators and a proportional number of representatives in Congress.
Your kind offer of joining your Union has been accepted. Please prepare accommodations for 20 new senators and dozens of new representatives, and kindly inform Senator John Thune and Congressman Mike Johnson there will be new elections for Senate majority leader and Speaker of the House.
Please do not worry about security for the new senators and representatives, which will be provided by units of Joint Task Force 2 that will be arriving shortly in the DC Metro area.
*Note that the common measure of "economic success" is GDP, which does not include public sector or exports. As a result the country with the smallest public sector per captia and the least amount of exports looks significantly better than it actually is.
Canada could save the world by doing this. First off it would be 10 states, not 1 because of the 10 provinces. 9 would be farther left than any American Democrats. That's 18 new left Senators and 40+ House of Representatives all who hate Trump and the American Right wing party.
Canada representatives would be able to immediately impeach and convict Trump and Vance. The Speaker of the house would be Canadian and therefore become President. After fixing America, you could vote to secede. Republicans would vote overwhelmingly to let you go back to being Canada.