Imagine that room. You can just picture phones being handed around left and right and wild panic in the air.

"This one's been holding for 7 minutes already"

"See if X can take a call at 11:15"

"What timezone are they in?"

I'd say it was well orchestrated mayhem.

Good to know but I will not be telling my mother that. My auntie has long since passed (mum's the baby in her family) and that would outrage her to the point of heart attack.

100 calls in 10 hours is solid work and I would imagine entirely exhausting.

One summer while in college I worked in a call centre. Worst job of my life so be kind to call centre workers folks. If I remember correctly we would rack up around 140 calls in a day but many of those were very short and obviously I didn't have a presidential nomination on the line. :)

Ireland was more or less entirely run by the unseen hand of the church until, I'd say, the 70's and to some extent the early 80's. Sure they even had a special position for the church in the original constitution in 1937.

In the early 80's people were becoming very wary and then all the various scandals broke loose, coming thick and fast in what seemed like a never ending flood at the time. In the space of the 30 years between 1970 and 2000 the country essentially became irreligious as a result.

Bwaaaak Bwaaaaak 🐓

That's bananas. "Any child is a gift" and "vasectomies being popular" aren't mutually exclusive. I have a lot of kids and I reached a point where I'd had enough. I love them all so deeply and if my wife said to me tomorrow that she was pregnant well then I would love that child dearly. I love kids.

Still....No more child tho plz. ✂️

There's a cautionary tale that does the rounds in our family about my auntie who somehow (now remember we're talking 1950's aggressively Catholic Ireland here) ended up having a conversation with her priest where she somehow implied that herself and her husband avoided sex around ovulation. From recollection it was during confession.

Priest says "no bueno". She says "okiedokie".

Nine kids. Nine. My mother is still angry about it and she's very, very old.

I remember when that video came out and I was truly impressed at watching good regulations in action.

Luv me some EU I does. 🇪🇺

That's his name. Thank you. I knew his first name but didn't want to Google it to be reminded of it any more than necessary tbh. It's one of those occasional intrusive thoughts videos for me that I'm sure we all have our own little library of.

I still can't believe the killer got away with it. Daniel had no way to get out alive.

Thank you. Signed.

Antonida Smolina, was visited by police after someone complained about photographs she had posted online showing her posing in a yellow coat against a blue sky

HAHA. Imagine being that fragile.

Both Trump and Vance have pretty inspiring stories

Intrigue....

Trump especially has shown us that

Extreme intrigue....

even if you have extreme mental disabilities, you too can rise to the level of US President.

LOL. You got me.

I think you misconstrued my intent which was just that I didn't agree with this take from the person I was replying to:

Like they’re challenging her to contradict them.

I was merely trying to point out that I felt the cops (and murder cop in particular) were ready, keen even, to get away when they were standing on the porch. Murder cop seemed pissed off the entire time he was going to the call (his partner is constantly checking if he's OK), when searching the back yard and also while dealing with that lady so I was surprised he didn't take the opportunity to just fuck off back to his car. I felt like he really wanted to.

And if it were a white woman, and she was cursing them from the moment they arrived, she’d still be alive right now 100%. Perhaps detained or arrested, and/or maybe a few bruises. But alive.

Yeah, tbh I'm not American but that does ring true with me as a frequent external viewer of horror stories like this.

I agree with you on everything you said (and yeah I'm a white lad). Beyond what you said, the dialogue also included so much frustration and ultimately murderous rage. It could have been dealt with so kindly and so easily and wasn't.

The one caveat I'll give is that I live an ocean away in a country where cops don't carry guns. We never face things like this and I am so fucking glad that we don't. This whole thing was tragic. I'm really upset about it. It honestly fucked up my evening but I can only imagine what it's done to her family. :(

No worries. Thanks for the link to the video. It was a good analysis, an unpleasant watch but I'm glad I saw it.

Also fuck that guy. Like really, really fuck that guy. Just a single ounce of empathy or kindness instead of frustration and anger and that woman would still be alive and her family wouldn't be grieving this.

But also I'm glad to see justice being done (so far).

I do feel sorry for his partner, who obviously early on knew the guy wasn't OK on that particular day, tried to smooth him out early on in the car but unfortunately wasn't able to. The whole thing is very sad.

Just watching it now. Heads up you linked to near the end of the video so for anyone else this is the start.

https://youtu.be/7jP3FGj7syI

Very upsetting viewing so far tbh so exercise caution on whether or not you're up for viewing.

Edit: Oh God this just gets worse and worse the more I watch. He had a tazer and chose his gun. :( That poor woman. Still watching in pieces as it's busy here....

Just finished. It's a good analysis of a terrible situation. Zero justification for killing that woman. Just a little kindness and it all could have been avoided. The killer was a giant dick from start to finish.

Oh yikes. Thanks for the extra context. I'll give that video you linked a watch this evening.

Like they're challenging her to contradict them.

I had a slightly different take on this - if she had said "OK thanks guys, I feel a lot better now. See you later." it probably all wouldn't have ended in murder.

What I can't understand is why they entered the house after that interaction and the video I saw didn't show.

After that it all went downhill aggressively. The tone of her "Jesus retribution" comment was actually very soft. The cop putting his hand on his gun and his incredibly aggressive tone was mental. Pure escalation with someone who obviously has mental health issues. She was never going to get out alive. :( It reminded me of that awful video of the young lad on the hotel floor who was executed. Very upsetting to watch.

Wow. I was there in the late 90's and looks more or less exactly how I remember it. Is that the "gaslight" area? (I think that's what it's called but it was a long time ago, maybe "oldtown"?)

Ha! I've seen some of those too but this one is done properly.

Where I'm from we were the first generation not to. That may be partly because of all the church scandals there were here.