While some early Tesla models, including the Model S, were prone to spontaneously catch fire if they suffered underbody damage, it’s unlikely the Cybertruck, which has been recalled seven times since it went on sale in November 2023, was released with a similar flaw.
Nah, no chance a cybertruck would have the same flaw. No chance at all, am I right?
Well, it's certainly a different beast. Being a pickup, the chassis is higher off the ground than other teslas. The problem with other teslas was insufficient armor on the underbody, so road debris could puncture through the vehicle and damage batteries. On a pickup there's both more room for (essentially) an armor plate and any debris would have to punch much higher up.
All and all, these kinds of battery fires should be much less likely to occur on a truck than on a sedan.
Edit: Upon actually watching that press conference from the sheriff and fire marshall, it seems clear to me from the language they're using, that they're treating this explosion as likely an intentional act. And I have to say, there's a lot of damning evidence in that truck bed.
However the battery didn't explode, the truck bed was full of gasoline cans and fireworks.
And the steel body of the truck bed actually did a great job of containing the explosion, focusing it mostly upward. The sheriff points out that the windows in the all glass front of that hotel weren't even shattered because the blast was so well contained by the truck.
It does feel increasingly like we arent living in any sort of actual reality anymore. Maybe our universe really IS just a simulation. If so, the entities who made it should be ashamed of themselves. This is pathetic.
The vehicle's battery was not damaged and did not catch fire.
The cargo area was full of fuel and explosives - in the form of firework mortars.
Explosives and fuel make a good fireball and fire. Fireworks being a 2 stage explosive (launch and pretty explosion), they may have expected the initial bang to disburse the fuel and the second to detonate it as a fuel/air explosive which would be very damaging, enough to take down the building.
Obviously were that their goal they did not sufficiently test. The vehicle contained the initial explosion and all they got was a fire
And the blast and fire exited through the passenger cabin, killing the driver. I hope it wasn't a valet.
I wonder if it was triggered accidentally early or badly set up and detonated on its own or remotely triggered too early.
I bet they thought they'd light up the battery. Poor quality bombers
I've seen a source (poor quality source, won't quote) that identifies the likely suspect as a former green beret. Also, CNN says:
Authorities suspect that the driver had a background in military service, according to several law enforcement officials familiar with the investigation.
They should not be poor quality bombers. In fact, they should be able to build a decent bomb by heart in several ways, if they learned anything at all.
I'm at loss regarding what this guy actually intended to happen, and whether he achieved that.
Hypothesis A, inspired by claims of links to the New Orleans attack: failed terrorist suicide bombing?
Hypothesis B: intended to do big time vandalism and live, but something went wrong?
There are reports of a firework mortar and gas canister in the back. Looks very intentional and showy from the video. Stupid way to end one's life, but that was part of it I think as well.
The weirdest thing about a cybertruck bomb is that the world has become so shit that it's not even interesting. Like, I just cannot care because every day something insane happens.
Thinking this through, they probably filled the car with gas until they couldn't breathe and then hit the firework mortar to set it all off. Also gives them a higher chance of ending it all then, as opposed to the "oops, all fire!" version, which would have been a lingering way to go.
There’s a video out now. It definitely exploded, but from my amateur digital forensics it looks like it was the result of a trunk full of fireworks instead of the car itself. I could be wrong.
So lets see, a recall every few months, do not allow them to ever get them wet, dont drive them offroad, you're not allowed to sell them, and never use them to haul fireworks.
That entrance doesn't even look 2nd rate, it looks more like a 3rd rate hotel.
I thought Trump liked things to look expensive, but this looks like it's built with the cheapest of the cheapest standard parts available.
How does that work? I thought that with electrical car battery fires, you basically just had to spray water to keep it cool until it was done with what it wanted to do.
Thats one option, but just because the battery caught fire doesn't mean the entire battery pack is going to catch fire.
There are fire walls in the battery, so if you get to it in time, you could cool it off and prevent a breach of the next firewall, and then the fire will be stopped when those existing cells use all their energy.
Within an hour doesn't seem unreasonable in that case if everything went right.
I saw some gizmo that was supposed to go under the car, puncture the battery compartment from the bottom, and then flood the whole thing with water which was supposed to put the battery out. I couldn’t tell if it was bullshit or not, though.
I think battery fires are self oxidising, you cannot suffocate them. The advice for small lithium cells for radio control toys was stand up wind, ideally have a steel bucket of sand to put it in.
Also discharge them completely as you can before disposal. The RC batteries had no protection so we could take them to zero volts
My guess is it wasn't random, that the vehicle was intended to damage or destroy the building but it went off early and they didn't count on the vehicle being so resistant
It would have been pretty bad if it had been parked under the hotel and the battery had caught, but as it was the blast was directed up and into the cabin, and the fire was contained to the tray and the cabin leaving the battery safe
Where do you draw the line? How serious should this place be? I don't want to report too much as well, you're volunteering your own time and it's ultimately your place... Like the comment below of someone finding someone blowing themselves up "funny", is that acceptable?
I'm hoping the vehicle's onboard camera views are released. Teslas have many cameras, including one watching the interior. They are all stored in the vehicle and unless all online activity is disabled are uploaded to Tesla for training the fleet and investigating failures
Tesla almost certainly know who owns or owned the vehicle and has video of whoever most recently drove it, possibly including view into the cargo area which seems to have been filled with a fire bomb