Update: The hottest 21 days ever recorded were the last 3 weeks

And then the inevitable day or week or so where it's unseasonably cold before we barrel into another couple months of record breaking heat. But during those weeks I will be told innumerable times "so much for global warming! This idiots don't know anything!"

We're at the top of the curve, we're going to see record breaking temps till November, and then it's summer in Australia.

Why's this guy so horny about climate change?

"ever recorded" - there was nobody around to record the formation of the earth.

Also when the impactor that hit us to form the moon melted the surface of the planet I bet it was pretty toasty.

Exxon is working on it. Give it another decade.

I'm sure our winters will be more extreme now too

For the love of christ, stop saying that. Every single time someone makes this comment. We. Get. It.

Agreed, we and other land mammals will suffer greatly, but life on Earth is hearty and just as the great George Carlin said, once we're gone, the planet will heal itself from the failed mutation that was homo sapien.

There are no actual socialist countries, but if you're referring to, for example, the Scandinavian countries, they use far less oil per capita than the United States.

The communist and socialist countries aren't using any less oil either. We can't fix a problem if we are blaming random things.

I've come to accept that there isn't hope to stop the runaway train of unchecked capitalist greed, at least not without the hard lesson of collapse and rebuild, and that means there will be apologists like you screaming that the ship (Our habitable world) isn't sinking as you're waist deep in ocean(city destroying weather events, crop failures, heat deaths, fresh water crises, etc).

That used to bother me, but I've come to appreciate you as the comedy relief you are in this tragedy. So by all means, keep crowing about how competition between humans in matters of life and death are "healthy" and how the capital markets will save us from the capital markets that don't care about any future that is more than a fiscal quarter out, and will do anything they can get away with against the species for an extra nickel for shareholders.

I'm sure the benevolence of the sliver of the population that came to own almost everything through Extensive, merciless exploitation and sociopathy "rational self-interest" will swoop in to save you and your loved ones for your devotion.

4-5 degrees? You are optimistic. I bet I get to see 3 degrees in my lifetime as we will blast by each and every exit ramps. Not only that we'll also be drifting on the highway, because it looks cool.

"Nuclear power scares me"

Welcome to the result. It's sad, because nuclear power was the way, but instead we propegandized against it and continued to use it as a boogie man.

Ignoring the fact that coal and natural gas still hurt and kill people daily, ignoring there's over 400 nuclear power reactors that are still active, 93 in America... But no.. "Chernobyl" and the discussion ends.

Also Chernobyl was a 50 year old design, and happened 40 years ago, involved multiple human errors ... nah can't consider things have changed since then.

Now we have people using another nuclear plant in Ukraine as an example, and again the fear rises. They're trying to weaponize the plant, but somehow it's "Nuclear power" and not the fact some fuckheads are planning to destroy it in a destructive fashion that's the problem.

Somehow dams that would be devistating to destroy are given a pass, but hey Nuclear power, so scary.

Switching >50% of the power to wind could have happened any time in the last 80 years for far less than any one of the various failed nuclear transitions.

Hell, the first commercial solar thermal installation was over a century ago and the first attempt to bring PV to market was george cove in 1906. One abandoned nuclear reactor worth of investment could have moved either down the economic learning curve to replace coal.

The answer has been clear. The wealthy that cause this will continue to rape the planet for short term profit to feed their insatiable greed machine, the peasants who will suffer the most who could destroy the global oligarch class in a day will continue to labor for them in exchange for minimal subsistence until we die of climate change induced natural disasters, heat stroke, or starvation, and the global oligarchs will flee to the luxury bunker complexes they've been building to continue to live like modern Pharoahs, protected from the destruction they wrought.

Humanity chose greed and greed worship, because humans would rather daydream about becoming the greedy fuckers and living in the decadence and gluttony of their masters, than of breaking the wheel, rejecting the owners and stripping them of their wealth/power, and working together sustainably for the future of the species.

A great many of us peasants actually resent our tax dollars going to the underpaid teachers that try to foster society's future in the face of apathy and greed. I think you'd have to be blind to have any hope for humanity getting wise without the painful, clearly needed education of civilization's collapse. In an age where humanity's technology can literally destroy the world, we need to learn the hard way that actions and inaction have consequences for the species.

We can't learn that until we're hungry and can no longer delude ourselves into believing everything is fine by staring into a screen.

Sadly the inflation of the 70s followed by high interest rates froze nuclear plant building, and when it could have picked back up, Chernobyl put a final mail in the coffin.

Honestly I think the only thing that will stop it is mass death and destruction of the industrial economy.

Right now my biggest hope is a volcanic winter to give us a little reprieve.

The question on my mind is at what temp will global economy and our current civilization start to implode, as at that point we will probably stop emmiting as people, cities and possibly states literally die off....and than will probably be the new norm...

It would take that long for developed nations, there are countries that are still in their industrial revolution and that's not even counting the ones that actively oppose this kind of thing like Russia and China.

We’re going to need to make all the changes now. Energy production, energy usage, energy storage, transportation, manufacturing, carbon capture and so on. We’re going to need to do all of it, and we’re still in big trouble. My guess is that within the next 100 years the human population might take a dive because of climate change.

Its not really a matter of if I care. I cannot sway billionaires, the ones who put us into this situation. I cannot make them stop destroying the planet. They do not care what I think, and they are solely motivated by profits. Nothing else. They have no morality, no sensibilities, no sympathy, and they have absolutely no desire to do literally anything about the unfolding climate crisis. They don't care. They'd double emissions in a heartbeat if they'd make a few cents off of it. God knows they've done it before, and they've done much worse for much less money.

Until the money billionaires have stolen from us is rightfully given back to us, we have no means of intervening directly ourselves. The only other option is insurrectionary revolution. Those in the ruling class have shown us consistently over the last 150 years that they have callous disregard for the environment and for the future of humanity. They have shown time and again they will ignore all warnings, they will dismiss all concerns, they are apathetic to human life, and are solely focused on the accumulation of stolen wealth. There's no middle ground here. If we want to do something meaningful to mitigate this crisis, the billionaires and the ruling class have to go.

Which book is this from?

Guillotine

Hmm... a baguette?

So, your answer to climate change is to kill people? Other than that idiotic proposal, which others do you have that people should implement and which would end climate change?

I had a slight glimmer of hope at the start of covid-19, when people were dazed and confused and isolating and waiting for a vaccine. At the very start, I actually thought humanity is proving we're not that bad.

The rest is history now.

Lots of planets out there, maybe another has life, and you can be snail-like creature on beta-kapsilon 114-3b

This is exactly why I dislike the phrase climate change. Outside of academia, it should be 'climate catastrophe'. Or maybe 'sixth mass extinction'. Those are much less ambiguous.

And the shoreline!

I was a kid in the early 2000's and I remember that page from the science book that we were reading during class, and it was also already alarming us about climate change/global warming. And like you said, here we are...

Fuck generational politics. There are class, gender, and racial divisions within each generation. We have more in common with working class and oppressed boomers than with ruling class members of our own generation.

Hopefully I'm not mistaken, but I'm going to assume you are asking in good faith.

Capitalism is an ideology of infinite growth. Capital is only invested for growth, that's the whole point...so corporations have to consume more, produce more, sell more, or capitalists will take away their capital investments. Think of it this way, you're a capitalist (by which, I don't mean someone who believes in the idea of capitalism...I mean someone who makes the bulk of their wealth with capital investments instead of labor) with millions invested in an oil company -- that oil company realizes that we need to phase out the use of fossil fuels for the sake of the planet -- so they announce a plan to limit production (and therefore profits).

Your capital is how you make your money, so if they announce a very finite upside (with a real possibility that in a decade or two, their whole business will dry up), you will quickly take your millions and move them somewhere else. And you won't be alone -- think of the bank run that Silicon Valley Bank had once everyone suspected the bank would have solvency problems. And before you know it, that whole company has lost trillions and fails almost immediately.

Now repeat this while coal, commercial beef farms, and down the line of the worst industries for the climate.

The corporations that are the main source of climate change causing emissions also know that if any one of them chooses to do the right thing for the planet, other, less ethical corporations will see blood in the water, and take over their portion of the market; and nothing will change for the environment, all that CEO will have done is put thousands of their own workers out of business.

Socialism, by contrast, is not an ideology of infinite growth. At it's core, it's an ideology of collectivism -- we all need to take care of everyone else -- this includes making sure everyone has a habitable planet to live on. The government can make sure all companies play by the rules, for the benefit of all humankind, not just do as they do now...ask nicely for the corporations to be nice, and then shrug their shoulders when nothing changes.

Why are you defining socialism only as full Marxism?

You're confusing the means with the goals. Marxism is about making the economy work for people (rather than the other way around). Industrialization was the obvious means to that end in Marx's time, but any sane person trying to run an economy today would prioritize making sure people have a planet to live on over just making more stuff for them to consume.

Capitalism is fundamentally different because it's highest goal isn't to make people's lives better—it's to increase privately held wealth. Capitalism can't pivot to prioritizing survival over private wealth, because if it did, it would no longer be capitalism.

Please read the book Socialist Reconstruction that was put out by the Party for Socialism and Labor. The sentence that you have starting with "Marxism" is not factual and completely debunked by not only the chapter on farming, but any of the chapters that touch on climate change at all.

I don't agree with everything in it but you might want to read Aaron Bastani's Fully Automated Luxury Communism. You'll find that Marxists aren't infatuated with growth for growth's sake, nor with growth at the expense of the environment.

The industrialization needed to carry out the Marxist project has already occurred. Capitalism is a religion of infinite growth on a finite planet just for growth's sake.

The weather will be more like a monkeys paw....u wish for a bit more rain....here is some floods instead..

Yeah the problem I have is when ppl say climate change doesn’t exist because today is moderate, meanwhile they ignore the droughts and floods elsewhere. I’m happy for our farmers and our rivers but next year could be completely different.

Just like the last several millennia there lol I remember the Brittons melting last year though right?

That's all well and good until your AC breaks, hits its heat transfer limit, you lose the ability to afford it run the AC, or your electricity goes out because the grid is overloaded because everyone else is also running their AC.

AC is a band aid, not a solution.

This is why all climate change predictions come with predictions for escalated war, famine, violence. Human 'civilization' may have just been a result of a resource glut.

It's so sad.

Actually hoping this is situational to a degree bc of the

El Niño is the "hot wave" portion of the cycle. El Niña is the "cooling" portion of the cycle. Both are involced in water surgace temperatures affecting storms, hurricanes, and more. We are in El Niño currently for the new couple years so I wouldn't be surprised to see the routinely for a couple years sadly.

Sauce... I mean source

But climate preservation is clearly not working: Humanity is not disciplined enough

We are but we have to reach absolute tipping point first we only turn back from the edge when we're right on it. That has always been how governments operate.

Up till the Cuban missile crisis the American military were all about using nukes in every possible situation for in even a small conflict. After the crisis they started to back off from that policy. The insanity of it was always clear, but until we actually got to the edge no one was prepared to act.

Our need to survive will always lead us to make a true change. Climate engineering and terraforling can surely be a way but it's not enough for now, we need an immediate solution to deal with the current problems, we need to understand the technologies we have now and what we can do with them.

Not oc but we are not overpopulated. Every single hunan that ever loved could fit in the grand canyon only. The problem is how we feed and consume.

It might be a problem, but I don't think it's the cause of extreme weather and climate change (or scarcity, poverty, hunger etc.). The dominant economic and political system is.

Also I believe it will be eventually possible to either build comfortable cities in deserts and permafrost tundra (or even on the sea floor) or transform those to less hostile biomes (although there are ethical and aesthetical considerations) provided we don't go extinct due to climate change before we have a chance to address overpopulation concerns.

Because if you make a country rich enough they will decline naturally.

I mean, to be fair, at this point humanity can claim extensive experience in the area of planet scale terraforming.

We're doing it as we speak!

Total Recall said so :)

in our final years, humanity will be split between the North and South poles.

It isn't as simple as that. Some models suggest that the Sahara will green and be human inhabitable. Similarly, many models have habitable islands in Central America, South and Southeast Asia, etc. On the other hand, many polar regions (in particular the Atlantic coast of Europe) may actually become too cold (or too variable) for humans.

I know, the actual answer is a massive volcanic explosion akin to Krakatoa in 1883 that cooled the planet by 2.2 degress Fahrenheit.

Awwww yeah! Smells like a juicy promotion!

Hottest three weeks in the last 44 years doesn't sound as dramatic does it