Raw milk fans plan to drink up as experts warn of high levels of H5N1 virus

didn't cats already get the virus from drinking the raw milk? honestly at this point if only they wouldn't end up infecting a bunch of other likely non-retarded individuals, I'd be inclined to just let them kill themselves with this and pass on beleiving that they proved their point. More realistically, they will probably spread it and kill a bunch of other people that way then still act like they have uncovered some great fucking secret, while somehow being the only survivors of the incident.

this is a certified Darwin award moment

Is he related to John, by any chance?

You say that like it's a way tuberculosis spreads.

Avoid animal agriculture in general

Raw milk is safe to drink in the UK.

The problem is they infect the rest of us.

It’ll only be a matter of time until the virus mutates and successfully transmits from human to human.

The institute's founder, Mark McAfee, told the Los Angeles Times this weekend that his customers are, in fact, specifically requesting raw milk from H5N1-infected cows. According to McAfee, his customers believe, without evidence, that directly drinking high levels of the avian influenza virus will give them immunity to the deadly pathogen.

It's like the "facemasks are causing COVID-19" thing.

directly drinking high levels of the avian influenza virus will give them immunity to the deadly pathogen

It's like homeopathy but even stupider

Well it will give immunity, to the ones that survive.

I know there are also conspiracy theories around pasteurization. Supposedly it doesn't work and you don't need it. Oh and viruses are a hoax. Or at least that's what my very self educated husband of my cousin believes.

I’ve assumed for some time that that Venn diagram was nearly a circle.

I always find it interesting that Americans are scared of raw foods. No raw milk, no carpaccio or tartare, raw pork is a no-no and raw seafood is an instant death. Really tells you that the food quality in the US is very low.

It’s my hypothesis that a lot of stupid Trump voters exist because seatbelt laws prevented stupid people from killing their kids. Kids who inherited their parents stupidity and here we are today. Regarding stupid people killing their own kids thru their own stupidity, maybe we should take a Star Trek “no interference in primitive civilizations” stance.

I think I may have long COVID or something... I got COVID in November, recovered, then caught a cold in January and have been sick since. I just want to be healthy. Why do the stupidest among us have to fuck everything up?

When someone catches it from drinking raw milk with the virus in it, it might affect other people too.

What we really do not want to happen is for human-to-human transmission to start, and every time a human gets infected, it helps create a risk for a mutation that starts that going. We know that the virus is in the milk supply right now, so it's not just some distant hypothetical.

If you remember, we had a lot of criticism for China over the role that wet markets with live animals might have played in starting the jump to humans on COVID-19. I'd rather not turn right around and have us be responsible for creating a window for a new pandemic due to doing something similar.

I case we do decide to miss them, they’d going to try to leave us pandemic to remember them by.

Probably how the raw milk sinkers think of themselves too. Super-powered, misunderstood, fighting an oppressive government, actually the hero.

The reality? Bit-character, backwater hicks.

I'm kinda ashamed of this, but I used to prefer the raw milk from a local dairy farm because it comes with all the fat and cream(you have to shake it before drinking) and it tasted soo freaking good. They vaccinate their cows and only have about 8 of them.
However, I will not be buying that anymore and go back to buying pasteurized all the time. The taste isn't worth risking h5n1. I know it's a pretty stupid thing to do since other illnesses can happen from raw milk, but I guess it's better late than never to stop doing that

At this point Biden could summon a genie to grant everyone in America three wishes and people would still blame him for not giving them six wishes.

We have made H5N1 avian flu vaccines many times before. We have one developed as recently as 2020 that's been approved by the FDA for use in humans, not sure how great it is against the current incarnation though. Flu is quite good at evading vaccines, hence the need for frequent updates.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/H5N1_vaccine

The US government funds vaccine development for viruses that might become a problem at some point. There's also work into expanding rna vaccine technology, which can allow for very quick updates as viruses change. We need way more work and funding on pandemic prep and surveillance. We've all seen how devestating a global pandemic can be. Even if the vast majority developed never end up needing use, one of them may save millions of lives.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/vaccine-makers-are-preparing-for-bird-flu/

Anyways, if an H5N1 pandemic started tomorrow, there's a vaccine that would probably be helpful already made. Would need to be scaled up massively in production of course though.

No, these fucking morons will get infected and then infect US with this shit. It's not OK that they're being morons because they will kill innocent people because of it.

Anyone who doesn't believe and follow science, will die of reality.

The problem is that idiots drinking H5N1 milk might bring about human-to-human transmission of it which will be a dire situation. To date, around 50% of the 200-something human cases resulted in death. For comparison, the worst mortality rates of covid were around 20-25% in the very beginning.

And milk hasn't made me sick. But clearly people get sick drinking milk, and people get sick drinking plant milk. Mold, botulism, Listeria, Salmonella...

What's my point? That you don't really have a point.

This is what the FDA says

Raw Milk/Cheese Concerns

**Are there concerns about HPAI and raw, unpasteurized milk? **

Based on the limited research and information available, we do not know at this time if HPAI A (H5N1) viruses can be transmitted through consumption of unpasteurized (raw) milk and products (such as cheese) made from raw milk from infected cows. However, we have long known that raw milk can harbor dangerous microorganisms (germs) that can pose serious health risks to consumers. According to the CDC, from 1998 through 2018, there were 202 outbreaks linked to drinking raw milk, resulting in 2,645 illnesses and 228 hospitalizations. These outbreaks have typically been caused by the presence of bacteria such as Campylobacter, Cryptosporidium, E. coli, Salmonella, or Listeria monocytogenes in the raw milk. For more information about how consumers can protect themselves from these risks see our website: Raw Milk.

Well, they detected destroyed versions of the virus in pasteurized milk, so unless something else destroyed them before the pastuerization would have done so, there is a chance raw milk would have live virus in it. But it is certainly possible something else was responsible for destroying it before it got into the milk. I sure wouldn't take the chance myself, it's already a pretty bad idea to drink raw milk without this added.