Most Americans, no matter their political affiliation, do not believe that violence is a solution to domestic political divisions, according to the latest PBS NewsHour/NPR/Marist poll.
If the blue collar conservatives would only figure out the rich do not have there best interests at heart there wouldn’t be a war. This is class warfare but most just don’t realize it yet.
Conservatives are itching to commit violence against women, minorities, and political opposition.
Leftists recognize that medical debt, unaffordable food and rent, climate change, etc. are already forms of violence we're being subjected to as part of permanent class warfare.
Semantics but the user above you didn't want a civil war, just the vast majority killing like 800 Billionaires and maybe a few thousand millionaires (not all of them). Personally I don't think it's all that feasible, I'd rather just vote blue and tax them out of existence.
Undoubtedly, violence would solve America's divisions- but is it the best way to do so? The real questions are, how long would that take, who would ultimately be the losers, and would it even be "America" when it all ends?
Basically, one side believes that they should be allowed to kill anyone who disagrees with them, and the other side believes in the "excise the tumor" approach (use force now to remove the militant extremists and fascists to prevent their proganda from radicalizing more people and making the problem worse).
Both would technically be correct just by reducing the population of one side or the other, I guess. Can't disagree if you're dead.
Republicans trying to ruin the lives of half the population is not a "farce" and I'm insulted you'd simplify your argument to this level. There can be multiple things happening at once.
If anything happens it won't be a civil war. There is no good geological line to use as a point to start. It will be much more akin to the Troubles of Northern Ireland. Which may be honestly worse.
The biggest difference would be that there isn't an outside country that could or would step in. The US military would probably end up being divided, as many of the upper officers take oaths of loyalty to the country and constitution seriously, while a number of the enlisted people are much more partisan.
We're already seeing the beginnings of low-level terrorism, with threats of assassination against judges and other gov't officials. Mostly--almost exclusively--from the political right. It's not much of a step from there to actual violence.
Yeah, the ammo box is literally the fourth box of democracy after the soap box, the ballot box, and the jury box, but it's only to be used when the other three have failed
At the end of the day, might makes right, so we better make damn well sure the side we believe in has more of it
That figure is probably higher if we talk about gutting rich people. We might even get unity on that instead of divisiveness. I get a MAGA republican in the same room as a democrat and we start talking about wasting rich people, they often start acting like friends.
I'm hoping we can realize who our common enemies are so that we don't get into a civil war.
I feel bad for conservatives. In the, odds are stacked against you, kind of way.
They Would rather hand over their country to billionaires than share it.
They Would rather vote to give socialism and more hand overs to those billionaires, while destroying the middle class which actually made america great. They are Destroying the American Dream they claim to be Saving.
Actually fuck them conservatives. Easy to fool idiots helping Russia and China and Saudi Arabia.
Every one of those people imagines the violence happening to groups they don’t like, and not to them and the groups they like. Always remember, both sides thought the civil war would be over in one battle.
Fascists fundamentally support political violence as a method for "solving division". Anyone who is not a fascist and supports such violence at this moment needs to understand that political violence is going to backfire and play into the fascist's hands unless you can first build alternative systems of power and support outside of the government.
If you start violence without that network of support in place, you will disrupt people's lives, and the only support structure that can help will be the current Government. The military will be the ones providing food, medicine, and shelter. If you don't have a strategy to get regular people affected by the disruption food, water, healthcare and shelter, you're going to make the government the hero.
If you're not a fascist, and believe political violence is necessary, your first step isn't violence, your first step is to take a page from The Black Panthers and starting a community breakfast program.
That analysis is true only if the base is the target of the violence. Targeting the base is a big mess. But if the targets are the prime beneficiaries of the status quo, just the 0.01%, there is no mess. But that requires discipline, research, patience. Not just anyone can pull that off.
When somebody tells you who they are it's best you believe them.
They've been telling us who they are for decades, and who they are is the unburied remnant of the Confederacy coming back for round 2, because Grant didn't let Sherman finish the job.
I think those numbers are low. I think people were confused. While everyone knows them as indispensable vehicles of egalitarian social progress, guillotines are technically tools of violence.
Of the total surveyed 20% said "strongly agree" that violence might be needed for course correction, for Republicans specifically it was 28% and for Democrats it was 12%.