Noticed Edge was the default browser

KDE: Welcome to Linux. Do you like the UI of Windows? Well we have an excellent offering for you if that’s your choice. There’s also other DEs that you may select from if that’s your choice.

Windows: Here’s an ad bitch, fuck your choice.

I wish Microsoft kept Windows as a paid product, instead of making it effectively free (with things like free upgrades from older versions) and sticking ads all over the place.
- Um Windows 11 Home costs 145€ from ms directly... Free updates yeah, but I'm guessing that's so people aren't stuck without updates eventually.
yeah yeah windows bad. (i completely agree)
Windows serves ads? Where?

Edit: Why are people mad that I don't see adverts on Windows?
- Right just in the browser, start menu, notification panel, and whatever it’s called that pops up when you accidentally hover your cursor over the weather thing in the bottom right by the clock/calendar for .2ms too long.
  
  Supposedly it’s being trial run in file explorer on 10/11 and will be present at launch on 12
- Outside of EU.

Shouldn’t you lose your linux membership card for something like this?

Linux police officers come into your house, and they take your membership!
- And shave your neck
- "This incident has been reported."
In Soviet Russia, Arch BTW use you!
- In Soviet Russia Astra BTW use you. Seeing how "import-replacement"(read as corpos GTFO with protectionism on top) law is (un)enforced, I lost hope that this will happen.
Chicken isn't vegan?

Yeah, Windows does really like to copy Plasma, don't they?

Oh wow, I’m glad to see there’s other people who are reminded of Plasma by Win 11. As someone who never installed or used it the first time I saw someone using it I made a comment about them using Linux. Until I realized…

Microsoft even copied KDE's motto "Simple by default, powerful when needed" in their Windows 11 announcement.
- How is that legal?
  
  eeh, right, MS's lawier army vs. KDE dev team. Right by money.
- Copying stuff that enhances the UI/UX is something that I'm personally not opposed to but stealing another foundation's motto is just lame and shameless.

This is hilarious. It really cut me deep. I don't think I've seen Harold used in the Drake format like this either. The look of dejected shame is priceless.

Linux users realizing Windows is fine.

Windows is not “fine” aside from all the non-UI stuff, they’re UI is annoying and slow to me, they moved things behind extra clicks/commands to make it “clean”- stuff I actually use.

And then there’s the whole tracking usage to drop adds in your notification thing… which is a privacy nightmare.
- I mean I'm cheering for Linux adoption too, but I've never received an ad beyond the initial install crapware app stubs. I do a sweep on the system settings, clean the junk, and I'm off to the races.
  
  For the unsuspecting users, the privacy concerns are quite bad though.
- +1
  
  i have to use microshite crap every day.
  It outdoes oracle at generating curse words.
  and it gets worse. i'd take windows 2000 or nt4 over whatever shit they force on me at work.
I got a goddamn pop-up ad for an XBox controller. That really says all you need to know. When there are advertisements in the operating system, the operating system is fired.
- I loved it when windows recently started giving me Xbox achievements (aka ads for Xbox) notifications just for playing any PC game on my computer. Like I'm trucking along, playing a steam game, and Xbox game bar shit, just has to wake up from its slumber to say: we randomly noticed you played something on this computer! Have you considered Xbox today?
Eh, you only notice it when it's bad, most of the time for most users it's okay, though I generally argue they just make an unconscious decision to ignore most issues, even before trying out Linux I was flabbergasted at how people literally lose time and get flustered at a problem but then refuse to accept it as such.
- Some say the stress helps you grow a long white wizard beard.
- Ya’ll are nuts. I logged in to a windows 10 pc after ~1 year so that I could flash a SD card. Windows immediately updates and literally bricked an ssd. How is that “general computing”
Tbh, I thought Windows was fine too, until I had to use it last summer.
- I installed it recently in a VM for something and my first thought was "what the fuck?". My last proper Windows installation was 7 and W11 is barely recognizable. The amount of preinstalled garbage alone really shocked me. The system menus have become even more convoluted too and I actually seriously struggled to find various settings. I remember the first attempt at re-categorizing the system settings in I think it was Vista but this is even worse.
  
  Really made me appreciate Plasma even more.
Is most of the UI fine? Yes, absolutely. It's just the rest of the OS that sucks.
Depends. what version of Windows? 10? I can agree for the most part that yeah, it's fine. Most users loved 7, I...never paid it much mind (mostly because it was good, i guess? Got nothing bad to say about it, at least) and 8 was...Windows 8.

Windows 11 tho? Eh....the UI's ok. I like it better than 10's, at least. Ish. But whose bright idea was it to limit the number of items in the context menu? Or to hide the ribbon that, again, shows you more options? Or basically force ya to make a Microsoft account to even use the thing? (there's apparantly a way to revert some of these things via messing with the Registry) Like, Windows 10 was fine like you said, dunno why 11 needed such drastic changes. And that's without mentioning ads or the habit Windows has of reverting some of the setting you set after an update (tho that was a thing since 10, tbf. Still annoying)
- I think Windows 10 was peak Windows. Controversial for many, I used a start screen too. The only thing I like more about the aesthetics of 11 than 10 is the window outlining with the color of your choice.
  
  I'm not logged into my Microsoft account on Windows, nor do I see adverts. When you boot Windows 11 for the first time there is a trick into getting it to offer the option of a local account. I'm not sure why I don't see adverts. The only mod I've done is to turn off web searching in the start menu. Where do you see adverts?
Eh, it's okay for most people, I guess. I am just not comfortable being the product. I want to be in control of the things I own.

There is no shortage of different programs that can neuter Windows telemetry and ads but they're always finding new ways to fuck your shit up and I'm done playing the game.
It was fine on Windows 7. Now you can't open the start menu without 5 ads jumping into your face or open any app without a popup promoting a Microsoft alternative (note for the whoosh people, this is hyperbole). It's even worse than the pop-up/pop-under phase of web ads.
If Linux was fine, then I wouldn't have gone to the trouble of looking for an alternative and taken the time to teach myself Linux. I don't know anybody else who uses it so it's not like somebody twisted my arm
Only the weirdly customized taskbar. Oh, wait, it isn't customizable.
It's very constricting and now with ads and forces updates upon the user that cause more problems than they solve (at least in my experience) but other than that I think it's ok, just not for me.
- Pirate images all the way man
did something happen? is plasma just windows now?
- Some people don't like that Plasma is usually (depending on the distro) offered with an aesthetic that reminds to windows, so it's easier for newbies.
No, it isn't. File explore is dog slow (though wiggling the scrollbar helps WTF), they don't support no-brainer UI niceties such as being able to change volume with the scrollwheel when hovering over the task bar icon, middle click on scrollbars to jump to a location still doesn't work, no focus follows mouse, double clicks everywhere, settings are... where? There's like 20 different different UI interfaces to different settings in Windows, half of them dating back to Windows 3.0.

Oh and can you fucking let me set start menu favourites without trying to second-guess what I want there. "Recently used?" I never fucking used that shit you put there and stuff I used isn't in there.

As to Windows 11: I heard that you can't have the task bar at the top. Why. Seems like nowadays MS is breaking more stuff than they fix. I was kinda miffed at KDE disabling alt+left/right click move/resize... but then I googled and they moved it to meta. Which is actually sensible. I ceased to be miffed. I probably should read release notes on updates it's all there.

you get ads in kde plasma?

The UI of Windows 11 is fine, at least visually. Windows 8-10 were mostly just ugly. When it comes to configuration options, they lose even against Plasma from a couple years ago.

I have a Mac like UI btw., there is no chance of confusing my Plasma with any Windows :P

UI is fine... UX is a few good steps backward
I feel like the windows 11 ui looks really nice and it seems like they could do a lot with it, but at least last time I actually tried it it just felt kind of unfinished and there were a lot of weird bits where the theming looked wrong

Did KDE get a recent makeover? Last I saw, the window decoration still defaults to half rounded and half square. Devs can't decide which one they like.

Next makeover is in February with Plasma 6.
Don't worry, Plasma 6 will default to half square and hat rounded instead.
I assume the window decorations are like that because rounding the title bar is safe whereas rounding the bottom of the window has the potential to partly obscure content

make it like windows 2000 and i won't have a problem

And you can do that with kde.

How do you even not notice?

He though that new widget with all the advertisements was really nice, and was on the way to thank whoever cleaned his system removing 3/4 of the items on the start menu.
They say they use linux and yet they went 45 minutes without opening a terminal? /doubt
There's themes to make your OS seem nearly identical to Windows. Maybe they have that.
- Or maybe it's a meme

Sounds like the good old fucked bootloader after system update

I actually had that happen during my last update from 23.04 to 23.10 a few days ago.

Put https://sourceforge.net/projects/boot-repair-cd/files iso on Ventoy usb and fixed it with a few clicks.

Brilliant! rofl

*45 months later

In fairness KDE has been copying Windows for years. That's why it has a taskbar, start menu, tray etc.

I guess that's why Windows stole the KDE motto of "Simple by default, powerful when needed"?
Windows also copied KDE in many areas
Last time I checked X11 came out before Windows 1.0
- X11 came out in 1987. Windows 1.0 came out in 1985. Not sure why that is relevant or represents some kind of point since a lot of windowing UIs were emerging around the same time.