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Idaho state senator tells Native American candidate to “go back where you came from”

www.motherjones.com Idaho state senator tells Native American candidate to “go back where you came from”

The thing is, she was already there.

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Idaho State Senator Tells Native American Candidate To “Go Back Where You Came From”

www.motherjones.com /politics/2024/10/idaho-state-senator-dan-foreman-native-american-candidate-go-back-where-you-came-from/

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“Idaho senator born in another state tells Native American congressional candidate from a tribe native to the state to “go back where you came from.”

It would have been a much wordier headline but relays a lot more pertinent information.
- Their ideology is a cancer
  
  An ideology of "I won't listen to you because I'm motivated to oppress everyone else for my own gain," is, most definitely, going to make the world worse. And this will be entirely on purpose, and no one will apologise.
- Idaho State Sen. Dan Foreman, a conservative Republican
  
  Said this to
  
  Trish Carter-Goodheart, a Democrat running for a House seat
  
  Always use names. The veil of "a politician said" or "big company does" is too blinding. Name and shame.
- Which state someone is from isn't what people care about.
  
  *Y'all are some funny misreaders. I don't support him, I'm just saying these idiots don't care about the state. Focusing on state for some reason is weird.
  
  It isn't, but to be fair, it absolutely does add an additional layer of irony that they weren't even born there.
  
  "where you come from doesn't matter" says someguy3 in defense of a racist colonist telling someone to go back where they came from while actively living on their land.
  
  The point is the hypocrisy. Telling someone to go back where they came from in a place where you aren't from either is hypocritical as fuck.
  
  I dunno. At some level, when all hope is gone, I find myself hoping the state where I live hasn't gone full fascist.
The irony has been palpable for over a century. Bizarre that we still accept it as a society
- That's not the irony.
  
  The irony is people flying the flag of violent traitors who fought a bloody war against this country while screaming that anybody who doesn't like it here should get out.
  
  We desperately needed to let them leave back then, the country would be so much better.
  
  As long as we can keep the port of New Orleans and navigation rights to the Mississippi River, they can go disappear right up their misinformed idea of God's asshole. "The South" is a luxury we can no longer afford.
- But hey, at least we changed a few sports team names. So that's something, right?
The person he said that to missed a great opportunity to say, "sure. Give me your house keys."
- Right after you do!
  
  Why right after I do when I wasn't the one who told anyone to go back where they came from, especially when that's literally where they came from?
  
  If an indigenous person who's people used to be on my land asked for it back, I might consider it. But that would be difficult because they're all dead.
This stupid fuck of a senator needs to go back to where he came from (sorry Illinois, you can’t just dump your garbage in other states like that)
- Even better: she's from the Nez Perce tribe, who do still live in the general area they originally came from. Which isn't always a given for very violent and racist reasons.
  
  So he doesn't come from there, his ancestors definitely didn't come from there, and hers very much did.
How does someone like this become senator?
- People in power usually aren't smart. They just have money from their parents or grandparents. This isn't a meritocracy. Idiots rule the world
  
  and there's only one way to get rid of them
  
  Additionally, the dumb relate to the dumb (and are easily manipulated), hence why they get votes.
  
  I get that. But you would think that a senator would at one point be in the same room as a history book
- Protest votes.
- Racists are allowed to vote and do so en masse
- State senator, not real senator.
He looks kinda like a mix of Putin and Zuckerberg.
- Damn, you're right.
  
  Puterberg? Zuckin? Pzucktinberg?
- PZuckerberting?
Surelly the right answer would've been "Go back to Europe".

(Mind you, as an European, please don't).
"Alright..." looks around at the country his people lived in for longer than white dudes lived in it "....Done, now what?"
lol

Furthermore: lmao

Life imitates art, I'm sure I've seen this in a comedy movie at some point. I just never thought anyone would be dumb enough to say it in real life.
Carpetbagging Idaho state senator....
- Then it makes sense. Unless we're talking about white guy going to Europe somewhere and the indigene going 'back' to eastern Russia.
Them: Done. Your turn.
Totally on brand. It will be funny one day for a Native American to say this to one of these racists.
Not wishing to make an unwarranted assumption, I looked up Sen. Foreman's political party. And yes, of course, he's GOP.
- Or you could have, you know, read the article.
  
  I started the article, and didn't immediately see his party affiliation. Looked up the affiliation on Wikipedia, and really didn't need any more information than that, plus the 'go back where you came from' to know that I knew all I needed to know about him. What do you think, Budd Ascrayon?
- Talk about thorough.
I wonder what political party he is affiliated with. It's really a mystery, isn't it?
- You know what really aggravateses me is them immigants. They want all the benefits of living in Springfield, but they ain't even bothered to learn themselfs the langwich!
  
  Moe Syzlak
Yeah, about that...
They would.
Well, if we are going to be anal about this, the “native american” is simply descended from people who immigrated a lot earlier. No human is truly native to the americas. All immigrants.

EDIT> It seems that I misread / didn’t read the article. Also, I’m not condoning, simply making a comment, that tries to expose the absurdities o of “nativism”.
- If we're going to be anal about it, we don't need to mention ancestors at all. One of these people was born in Idaho. The other was not. Get it?
  
  Agree, but then the whole Native American thing has no place in the discussion, no? I-m just trying to point out the absurdities of “nativism”
- Ok, this argument is pointlessly absurd because you don’t get to stop there and have to apply it to human migration all over the planet. If you’re going to be anal about it.
  
  Let's be real, Humans are an invasive species native to Africa
  
  Precisely. My point is that nativism is a cancer
- Thank you, Captain Literal! You saved the day again!
  
  From now on, we'll just call them indigenous instead and still call this state senator a racist fuck. Happy?
- Sort of. I don't think it counts as immigration if you're the first people in an area.
Allegedly*
- The other politicians there have confirmed that it happened.

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