Cemetery Staffer Declines To Press Charges For Fear Of Retaliation

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Yes?

And doing nothing only emboldens them.

Man, fuck stochastic terrorism.

This. And if they having been paying any attention, they can see that someone like Nancy Pelosi was even vulnerable to an attack from these demons. They came for her, but got her husband. And that's someone prominent like Nancy - imagine being a cemetary worker and knowing the kind of hate and vitriol and quite possibly, literal violence that would be aimed at you (and your family - these asshats are cowards to the core, of course).

Probably best that Trump survives to lose, and lose hard. Had be been assassinated, he'd be the perfect martyr and we'd never be free of MAGA. There's no heir apparent ATM, but given the power vacuum his murder would have opened, bet they would have found one with the quickness. Pre-election, even a natural death would open doors. Plus, imagine the violence that would have erupted.

Right now we're only seeing low-level stochastic terrorism, but I honestly think his most unhinged followers would have been hunting "enemies of the state" (read liberals) in the streets.

Conservatives loathe failures. Yet another Trump failure, they're on the turning away. If Harris thoroughly whips his ass, watch a year from now, "Yeah, I never was a big fan of his." Same as happened to Nixon. Sure, he had die-hard fans, but most of his people got real quiet, real quick.

This campaign is his last ditch, last gasp, chance to stay relevant. If, and I believe when, he loses in a landslide, he's going to quickly spiral into history's outhouse. Loss of personal freedom, money, power and influence, loss of followers, and loss of health on the heels of all that? He's fucked.

Yes, the man has dodged accountability his whole life, but remove his power, money and influence, he's going to be standing buck naked. The chickens are coming home to roost. I can hear them already.

You brought up a personal story, which I appreciate. I am going to share my own as well. It is not my intention to compete with you. I have two stories I can share where I did intervene and was prepared to use violence. When presented with new evidence it became clear in both cases that violence was not the answer. Here's the one that happened the earliest in my life that also happens to involve cars.

When I was in high school, either junior or senior year, I was hanging out with my friend by the school parking lot. We were waiting for the traffic to clear out. There were about ten people left in the area in total. I think while I had my back turned talking to a different friend, my friend spotted a guy trying to jack a car in the school parking lot with what looked like a metal ruler. I couldn't believe someone would do that in broad daylight. I had to get a closer look. My friend said it wasn't worth dying over a car. I said it wasn't about the car and I didn't want to live in the world where we did nothing. By then the eight guys nearby were walking with us. We surrounded the guy. It turned out the man was trying to break into his daughter's car because she had locked herself out. Apparently this had happened more than once. I abruptly asked his daughter's name and he immediately said his daughter's name. My friend bought the guys story and he seemed to be telling the truth so we backed off.

The other story is more recent. I was alone in my apartment bedroom, a year or two before covid. I heard smashing noises and screaming coming from the apartment on the other side of the wall. I was tired and wasn't sure if someone was being murdered or just being noisy. I threw on some stuff for going outside. I went to the neighbors' apartment. The door was open and there was a guy sitting at the top of the stairs. He asked me who I was. I introduced myself. He asked me to be more specific. He then seemed really concerned when I told I was one of his neighbors. It turned out his 18 year old daughter was throwing a temper tantrum and was breaking stuff. He shouted multiple times to his daughter that there was an uber driver to pick her up. I could hear her clearly in the background asking what he meant by that. I said good luck with that and I left.

I am not going to analyze our stories. I bring this up to show that I do have the kind of criteria that you seem to think is required to discuss this topic. My point is that it's not a requirement. We have nothing to do with what we are discussing. This is about how people as a society respond to threats from fascists.

The woman in question is also not relevant to this discussion. Her choice is. That is it. It is not my intention to talk shit about this woman nor do I think any energy should be put towards that end.

Self-defense is when a person defends themselves from an attacker. What society would be doing by agreeing with her choice is saying that when push comes to shove people should trade liberty for life. There can be no resistance to fascism without risking all of our lives, because fascists will threaten everyone and anyone.

If people want a future that is worth living in for future generations then people as a society must uphold the idea of liberty or death. Society must accept the idea that people would be better off dead than in a fascist dictatorship or else people will end up in a fascist dictatorship. Liberty must be held above human life or else liberty will be lost.

This means being willing to risk every child. There is no life worth living under tyranny. Life under fascist rule is hollow and meaningless. If we trade in liberty for life then future generations will have a pointless existence. People should want future generations to have lives worth living.

The good news is that the Army put out a statement backing up the woman and criticizing the behavior of Trump and his campaign staffers. At the very least the Army stood up to Trump in writing.

Trump and the MAGA movement are the fascists. Snowden and Assange didn't stand against them. In fact, what happened to them is very likely to happen to lots of people if the fascists take power.

They really should have had more than just this one lady there to enforce that. They knew this was a risk and they were worried about him following the rules.

Isn’t this Army jurisdiction? Is pressing charges even relevant?

Assuming the only evidence for physical assault isn't just the victims statements (but even then), I feel that both crimes are currently being ignored.

To go back to the example of Germany: If you accuse someone of a crime (directed against your physical well-being or property) here, towards authorities (e.g. police) and then say "but I don't want to press charges", that no longer matters - they are obliged to record a report of a potential criminal offense and leave it to a judge to decide on how to proceed.

CPS is? City Prosecutor ... ??

as to 1) - that's judged differently in Germany - in part to protect victims of domestic violence who will often "change their mind and not want to" press charges after filing an initial report.

2. in that case, yes - but again, if it's a criminal offense, the victim has an obligation to testify, even if they have no interest

3. I have no idea how the funding of our judicial branch looks like atm

The CPS only does this for England and Wales not the whole of the UK. In Scotland the procurator fiscal prosecutes crimes and in Northern Ireland it is the Public Prosecution Service

He also lacks the depth and warmth to be a cunt.

IANAL, but I believe that is only a thing in Commonwealth states of Maryland, Pennsylvania, Kentucky, and Virginia. In normal states, I don't believe it is standard practice for the state to pick up the charge if the victim refused to prosecute.

If you don't think these asshats will dox and harass this person anyway without even pressing charges, I've got a bridge to fucking sell you.

They told Trump "no," that's enough of a crime in the eyes of these right wing freaks.

Further, no one is saying they need to do it alone. If asshats can organize to harass them, can't we organize to protect them? This is literally what I mean by nobody will back each other up. Instead of organizing as a group to protect that person, we act like it's their personal responsibility to fight it and then go "oh shucks" when they don't. Jeeze, maybe it's because we didn't back them up.

Isn't that why the Black Panthers fucking existed, because they knew they couldn't trust the cops?

But I guess organizing and protecting people like that is too much to ask.

Courage isn't easy. Fear is the very definition.

Not at all. They can and do charge people.

The DA doesn't need their support, they have the video evidence of a federal crime.