Starting to think the reason Elon opposes the "woke mind virus" is not because his daughter is trans, but because he keeps getting owned so fucking hard by her
so fucking hard by her
Would this be uncharted territory for him?
If your kids hate your guts. That's all I need to know about you.
i'm gonna frame this post and send it to my father
I had a friend who took a shit in a shoebox and mailed it to his father. I never met his father and I don't know what he did, but his mother is the sweetest woman in the universe and my friend is an amazingly nice guy, so whatever it was, it must have been really bad.
Oh my God that comment about being bullied by him for being feminine. I felt that in my fucking soul. I got that shit so much from my father when I was younger. About the stupidest shit too.
I had this baby doll that I apparently loved when I was little. I was too young to remember having it, but when my brother was a baby apparently I'd follow my mom around with it and while she took care of my brother if she was doing something that I couldn't help with I'd take care of my baby doll.
He hated this fucking doll with a passion. Didn't want me to have it because he was convinced I'd grow up to be gay if I had it. Only the word he used was worse. He ended up jumping at the chance to give the doll away to a family they were acquainted with lost their house in a fire and their daughter had no toys left because he could get away with it then. But his hate for this fucking doll was crazy. Like it was impossible for me to become a parent one day and gasp take care of my own child.
I'm sorry that you went through that. My 9 year olds mother took his safety blanket from him 5 years ago. He was "too old for it". Fuck that. If it makes him feel better, he has it. This is why we're no longer together. I bought him a new one and he gets it whenever he wants at my house. He rarely uses it, but it's there for him when he wants it. He's 9. He's still just a kid, it's not like I'm handing him job applications.
I did have a love of musical and theater when I was four, but that's because my dad was a film historian who also loved Stephen Sondheim, so half of what I listened to growing up was showtunes... but I'm guessing if that was true about Musk's daughter, it was Musk who was playing the music.
But yeah, I have a cassette tape of me somewhere (sort of) singing "Soon" from A Little Night Music when I was something like 18 months old.
Anyway, fuck Musk and I'm glad his daughter called him out on his bullshit. She also made sure she put it in the court record that she disowned him when she legally changed her name. She didn't have to do that, she just wanted it in the legal record that she did not consider him her father. Much respect for that with someone with a normal bigot father, but when your father is one of the richest men in the world? She's fucking amazing.
How low do you have to be in order to make up bullshit about your kid, the kid YOU Neglected?
Child goes on Threads, not twitter. She used Zuck's platform to tear down her father
I'm so fucking poor compared to Musk. His wealth grants him access to so many things I'll never have access to. He is financially far more successful than I will likely ever be. I don't feel any envy though. He's so life and love poor that I feel like his superior simply because my family loves and respects me, and I feel the same towards them.
He's a loser. It's a weird thing to say about a guy who can buy my entire neighborhood and tear it down for funsies, but he makes it so clear. No matter how much he has, he'll always be a pathetic loser. He's proof positive that money does not buy happiness.
Fuck Elon. But also, how do you know what you said when you were 4? My 4 year old says a lot of shit.
I think the chances that his daughter said and did stereotypical gay things when she was four according to a guy who lies all the time are low.
I think you missed the part where he wasn't around when she was four years old. How does he know what she said when he left her to be raised by her mom and nannies?
I have trouble remembering things from highschool. But my younger sibling, they have vivid memories of stuff from pre-school onwards. And I know they're not making it up because, well, I was there and was 5 years older.
And many research has shown that long term memory starts forming at, coincidentally, around 4 years of age.
The mind is a wondrous place, and just because you or I can't imagine it happening doesn't mean it's not possible.
One thing Elon doesn't seem to understand is that no matter how many billions of dollars he spends to "combat the woke mind virus", it will never make his daughter love him. Accepting her and loving her unconditionally would, but that requires a level of emotional maturity that Elon simply doesn't possess and no amount of money can buy for him.
Rich people are far too often bankrupt in the matters of the heart and soul.
One of the crazy parts of growing up with a narcissist is recognizing that you are supposed to stop their bullshit. They are in charge as a parent, so being a fucking kid means you think them lying about shit to glorify their mistakes is what is supposed to happen. And to be safe you go along with it.
It is not pleasant to be expelled from an abusive, controlling, narcissistic family to the world only to become a mark to every dark triad person on the planet.
And to find the good in that world is nigh impossible without almost endless resources.
I grew up with a narcissistic, neglectful mother. It made me a stone cold liar. I'm so good at lying that I sometimes used to lie just for fun to see how crazy I could make it before someone would call me out on it.
That being said, with my child I'm a totally different person. I'm super honest with him. I tell him constantly how much I love him, how much he matters to me. I just have this aversion to do anything my mother would have done. My instincts tell me to do almost everything the exact opposite of what she would have done.
Not that I doubt them, but I sure as hell can't remember anything from when I was 4, so I'd be unable to definitely rebuke any claims about my actions during that time.
I remember the important stuff from when I was 4. I liked picture books, computer games, playing on the swing, and hot wheels. We didn't have a computer at home but we had one at school and I liked playing the educational games. Also I tried a pear when I was 4 and I hated it. I still do. Fuck pears!
I remember this blue curtain with giraffes and lions (and I'm sure other animals but those are the two I remember) that I liked and got to see during snack time. I used to imagine I'd be playing with them and how cool they were. I also remember watching GoBots in the morning. I was also fascinated by rollypollys and caterpillars one day in the outside play area for some reason. Just a few examples from preschool when I was between 3 and 4. I started kindergarten when I was 4 during that school year when I was close to turning 5. I remember my teacher from then and her really visible varicose veins and her pointed toe shoes that seemed way too small because the skin from her feet pushed up out of them a bit.
None of that is stuff my family would have been like "Hey, remember blah blah?"
How does this help? Vivian didn't say she remembered being four and not saying those things, she said when she was four she clearly wasn't going around miming gay stereotypes like Elon Musk claims, because no four year old is:
- picking out clothes for their parent and describing the outfit as "fabulous"
- enamored with musicals and the theater
Vivian's point is that these are not behaviors typical of a four-year old. The person whose testimony would be valuable is her mother's and nannies' who actually were there when she was four years old (unlike Elon Musk).
Elon got pwned
Good lord it must suck so much to have a father like that. Hope she has all the money to afford good therapy at least.
Musk did quite a fast way from the "Occupy Mars" to a Starwars-like family drama. Outer space is not a joke, guys!
Isn't calling someone or something "camp" classist and elitist?
Even if camp has a history of being looked down upon (particularly in the mid-20th century), that view is a bit outdated as postmodern artists have long incorporated camp and kitsch into those same elitist contexts that previously rebuked it.
Art history and shifting attitudes towards camp aside, it doesn't seem like the context of Vivian using a descriptive term like camp to point out the almost excessive artifice in Elon Musk's made up stories is intending to denigrate the lower classes, even if for some people "camp" carries some classist associations.
It is good to be sensitive to classist attitudes, but it seems a bit weird to call it out in this context, especially considering the power dynamic of the context where Vivian, the victimized trans daughter, is standing up to her father, Elon Musk, literally one of the richest people in the world.
camp /kămp/ noun
Deliberate affectation or exaggeration of style, especially of popular or outdated style, for ironic or humorous effect.
..so nobody posts link to fact check this screenshot? What a joke 🤢
https://www.threads.net/@vivllainous/post/C91xDGJSUX_?xmt=AQGzND6BAwZzVWCnKrRTA2ELUH_kJ3iE8eijEOjwZBVcVg Link to the thread on Threads.
You don't need links to check this.
You’re being dramatic as fuck rn lol
California is a strange place.
Huh. I don’t really know what I was doing or saying at four. Neither does my kid, other than what people told him. I’m pretty sure everyone likes musicals at that age though. Mary poppins was the shit. They’re pretty great at any age really. Sucks they are in a bad place. What a stupid twitter argument though.
It sucks that he's a transphobic cunt who drove away his daughter. Why are you playing devil's advocate here? He doesn't need an advocate, he has 100+ times more money than you and everyone you know will ever make combined and he's a conservative asswipe. Elon making up lies about his daughter and her thoroughly debunking them isn't "a stupid Twitter argument", what the heck is your deal?
Ah yes, a trans person defending themselves from their abusive, transphobic billionaire father is a "stupid twitter argument".
Why do you feel the need the need to belittle it?
Maybe the truth is important to her, you have to respect that, it's not just a "stupid Twitter argument"
Right? Bizarre that this person doesn't seem to think that Musk's estranged daughter might want people to know when he's lying about her, especially when it comes to her sexuality.
How does a 4yo become a fan of certain music? Their parents play it endlessly. The child isn't a fan it's just what they know and have access to. Stop making excuses for other people.
I remember seeing the Space Needle on a trip to Seattle when I was two and a half. Surprisingly, different people can have different experiences
I hear accounts like that, but there's a fair amount of evidence that our minds like to fill in the blanks on memories we hear about. The classic example from psych class involves experiments where they implanted memories of getting lost at age 5 in a mall. The stories were fabricated, but two alarming things stuck with me: people added details to these 'recollections' and even after being debriefed on the experiment, a sizable portion continued to believe that happened to them at 5.
(Keep in mind, the human brain also isn't really developed enough to retain memories like that, let alone give them enough meaningful context to reflect on them in a meaningful way)
All that's to say your memories of the space needle probably have a lot filled in from your knowledge of the place and the stories your folks told you.
