Donald Trump continued to needle the Libertarian Party as he sought their votes on Saturday, resulting in him ending his speech to very loud boos.
Trump took the stage to "thunderous" boos, and ended his speech in a similar fashion this weekend.
Trump was booed especially loudly when he called.....
I mean I have different opinions than most Libertarians but I applaud the true Libertarian POV of “leave me the fuck alone”
If I lived alone on an island, I’d probably be one too.
But, considering the government (Republican or Democratic) will take whatever the fuck they want from my wages and then gouge me again on sales tax, I just want to dump as much of those taxes into helping others and the rest can go to helping to maintain and expand green spaces as well as infrastructure and roads.
There was zero plan as usual. The thing is, imagine what's going to happen after Trump. Imagine someone who is actually charismatic and smart in Trump's place who tows the same basic line. That's what really scares me
I see this sentiment often, which has afforded me the chance to reflect on it. The hypothetical smarter, shrewder, Trump-like candidate would likely hold less appeal to the party. As it stands, aspiring connivers operate under the belief that they can exert enough control to get what they want, consequences be damned. Essentially, they are gambling that they can act as the ego to his id on matters that they prioritize. A more intelligent candidate would certainly have a higher degree of agency and thus would be of less value to the manipulators. Trump, and those who resemble him, are the most dangerous sort.
This is the best answer I've been able to formulate as to why those who present as fools and dunces form the face of the MAGA movement. These people are useful idiots who garner support from interested parties focused on specific goals.
I mean, in a way it would be a good move for the libertarians to do something like that for a year, as getting over certain thresholds unlocks more election funding.
Then again, the libertarian party doing something to get more government funding isn't exactly ideologically consistent.
I'm just glad the orange idiot roasted them to their face. It's hilarious that he called out their shit electoral performance and bottom of the barrel chance at one of their own rallies.
I am going to be more generous to people, there is a saying that you should be charitable to people and ruthless to systems.
Much of the Republican base ultimately have the same hardships as working class democrats, but republicans are able to exploit those hardships and stoke racism sentiment.
The white supremacists and bigots can get fucked, but the majority of people are exploited workers looking for an answer to how to feed their families. I am by no means saying republicans will give to them, they will make it worse, but in a word where you are looking for food, you aren't going to be looking at the true underlying platform of the candidates
When most humans are idiots or ignorant (they are), direct democracy doesn't work. And other forms of democracy also don't work that well. But the alternative is... authoritarianism, which also doesn't work.
The only way to achieve a truly liberated society is to have a direct democracy of a well-informed populace and an elimination of social hierarchies, but that's just a pipe dream... any form of socialism that isn't Marxist-Leninism or "Democratic Socialism" (begging the capitalists to pls give us at least a crumb of socialism, the false belief that socialism is achievable through peaceful reform under an inequal/capitalist society) is never gonna happen.
Can you give me a list of things Biden did so I can point them out to my in-laws? Because all I've seen him do is support war so it's hard to argue with them
This is just a few of his major achievements I can think of off the top of my head. There are way more accomplishments that he directly and people he has appointed have delivered than I can possibly list.
And anyone who thinks Trump would be better for the war in Gaza than Biden is delusional
Not by convincing leftists to vote for Biden, but by convincing potential Trump supporters to not vote for Trump. For this election, "centrists" and "social liberal fiscal conservatives" matter a lot more than anyone here.
Say you're a libertarian. It's one corrupt big goverment guy running against another. Why vote for the guy who just insulted your beliefs? Doesn't that make you one of his "cucks"?
The number of users here who think far left protest non-votes matter more in this election than centrists/moderates and disillusioned conservative Republicans is bordering on comical.
This election will come down to the usual suspects lately:
Moderates in PA, MI, WI, GA, NV, and AZ.
Personally, I'm predicting overall lower turnout than 2020 and it's more a matter of which candidate motivates their centrist voters from 4 years ago in these locations to actually get out and vote again.
Given their track records, it is my prediction that centrist Biden voters from 2020 will be more likely to stay loyal and motivated than centrist Trump voters from the same time frame...who now have his trials as well as the Jan. 6th debacle, weighing on their minds. Further, I feel like the trump campaign has greater enthusiasm but among a smaller core, whereas the Biden camp has lukewarm enthusiasm among a broader set...and since a lukewarm vote has as much impact as a zealous one, the calculus favors Biden in that regard.
So both guys get fewer votes overall than they did 4 years ago...but the amount that each one loses (and where) is what decides things. And if that's how it plays out, I think the map is going to look very similar to the last go-round. I think Biden is least safe in AZ (depending on how the conversation about the border plays out) and GA (which is just the battleground in the country right now, it seems). I think he's safest in Michigan, and the remaining states of WI and PA I'd say lean Biden but are certainly in play. I'm not as familiar with Wisconsin, but Pennsylvania has handed Democrats more and more wins since the last time, most importantly in the midterms, when Pennsylvanians gave Democrats the majority in the state house in 2022 for the first time in ages.
So, barring any major shakeup in the campaigns, I feel like just looking at the Xs and Os, every state votes the way it did 4 years ago, except MAYBE the states Biden flipped. Of those, I feel Michigan and Pennsylvania stay blue.
If those two predictions are correct, Biden can even lose Arizona, Georgia, and Wisconsin, and still end up with 270 electoral votes to Trump's 268, and still narrowly win. While I'd like a fatter margin, I feel it's a wholly reasonable scenario that Biden carries every state Clinton did in 2016, plus two of the 5 battleground states he picked up in 2020.
How was he even planning to win them over? He’s not even a conservative Republican. Libertarians are split down the middle between Democrat and Republican, sharing the Democrat’s stance on civil liberty, and Republican’s stance on fiscal conservatism. Depending on an individual’s weight on social vs. economic policy, coupled with the well lubricated authoritarian slip n’ slide of the right, there’s honestly a better chance we’d see some defect left.
He’s doing anything he can to attempt to gain power again. Bad ideas. Good ideas. I imagine he’s spaghetti throwing at the wall hoping something sticks.
And I’m hoping something sticks his ass in jail. 😆
I imagine he’s spaghetti throwing at the wall hoping something sticks
Because if nothing sticks, man the justice system is going to fucking grind his ass up. That or he flees the country. That man has used nearly every delay tactic the justice system can afford a person. A two time loser is going to have a very difficult time convincing them to give him a third chance.
He'll tell them he's being hassled in court by the gummit - which they obviously don't like. See. THEN - okay here's that patented trump jenius coming out: Then he tells them "If I wasn't a Libertarian before - I AM NOW!!" which he expected to get a huge ovation for but got mostly a half-second of "wtf" followed by a louder version of whatever it was he was getting before.
YT video if you don't want to watch it on Xitter
y'know come to think of it, it makes sense that libertarians wouldn't like authoritarians. they are indeed diametrically opposed in principle. fake libertarians who are actually authoritarian but enjoy the libertarian aesthetic notwithstanding.
Seriously, the slimy look is frickin' creepy - can someone get one of those giant powder puff things and just smash it into his face before he gets on stage.
It looks like a giant orange dog slobbered all over him. Gross.