Interestingly, the states rights debate is true, wholly.
The north wanted to keep the right to acknowledge escaped slaves as free, and the south kept sending people up there to kidnap free men and women. They were even known to kidnap free born black people and sell them into slavery.
The south also wanted to charge the north for this "service".
When people talk about states rights, remind them that the south was heavily infringing on the rights of the northern states.
"Buy muh Southern Pride!"
"What about the south are you proud of that involves the battle flag of the side that wanted to keep slavery?"
I've lived in Minnesota my whole life. Growing up, there was some religiously homeschooled dumb ass serving in the mn national guard who said that the Virginia battle flag was heritage. The last time I talked to him, I told him that the only heritage for us involving that flag is in the MN historical society archives.
Really? These clowns couldn't take over the capitol building and now they think theyre going to take over the country? Honk your nose for me on your way our the door, k?
They actually believe that they can revolt, and with their AR-15s, magically take out National Guard troops and just acquire their weapons and armored vehicles.
A member of my family is not only a veteran, but also fell into this lunacy and thinks his work as a logistics officer and his NG training puts him on the level of the Navy SEALs. And he's almost 60. He salivates at the idea of fighting the mythical military oppression from the evil Demoncrats trying to take away his guns.
The problem with all the slap-on-the-wrist sentences for the insurrectionists, and a totally free pass for Trump for inciting it... Is that they are emboldened to try again.
The only lesson they learned from the insurrection is that next time they should bring all their guns. If people don't understand that, they are nuts.
They came within a hair of achieving their goal last time. Why wouldn't they try again?
slap-on-the-wrist sentences for the insurrectionists,
This is the largest group prosecution in the history of the US. Nothing else comes close. It's a conveyor belt of justice sending losers to the federal pen.
and a totally free pass for Trump for inciting it
He was impeached for it and is now indicted for over 90 felonies. Dude will be under house arrest for the rest of his life. They're unrelated but there's a reason why lots of prosecutors are targeting him. Turns out the Justice Department doesn't like it when you try to invade Congress. They took that shit seriously.
No civil war. This time just let them go. They will quickly devolve into third world countries. And my federal tax dollars will no longer go to their bullshit.
They don't really want to secede. They want to dominate their opponents. C'mon bro.
This is it. These people only respect power and hierarchy. Honestly most of the crazies will back down when they lose an election. January 6th was just the stupidest ones.
They're not gonna just go quietly.
If they could just live their lives in peace without infringing on the rights and freedoms of others they wouldn't need a civil war. They wouldn't have needed the first civil war either.
Noooooo. I live in Tennessee and that might be apart of the idiots! Id rather it be done and over with quickly so not to involve normal people.
I dunno, the south might give us a run for our money this time around. I mean, they have some of the most elite soldiers in the country, including but not limited to: the Gravy SEAL's Meal Team Six, the Green Buffets, and the Roast Guard. Not to mention their many terror sleeper cells like the Yee-Hawdists, Y'all Qaeda and Vanilla ISIS.
Scary thought to put our uniformed men and women against that crack fighting force, they might come back with some severe PTSD.
As a Southerner I find this hilarious.
Don't forget they have the Minivan Taliban... A truly terrifying opponent.
Considering the avg republican has to ride the diabetes scooters at Walmart I think the 2nd civil war will be a goddamn turkey shoot.
Let's find out, Trumptards!
I'm not a Trumper and I know for a fact they not only have more gun owners in Republican voting areas, they also train with them more because it's not as stigmatized. My point is that the Democrat areas will 100% lose any fight since we've been told for over two decades that guns are bad
Civil wars don't just start. There's a build up. Republicans will begin to engage in acts of domestic terrorism like bombings and blowing up substations. Dems will definitely retaliate and that's how we get a civil war.
I doubt even this would cause a civil war. By world standards, U.S. citizens have pretty good lives, so most people wouldn't risk it. An unprecedented and complete collapse of the U.S. quality of life would be necessary. People would need to feel like they had nothing to lose, and much to gain to attempt to fight the U.S.
I suppose a quick coup is possible. If the DoD/military backed it, I'd guess most people would just accept it as the way things are, or try to emigrate to other countries.
The U.S., the "west", and possibly the entire world is probably just destined for a long slow decline as global capitalism eats itself. Probably transitioning to something worse featuring mass surveillance, disinformation like we've never seen (powered by "AI" tech), and even greater inequality. But I'm a pessimist :)
Lmao
Paragraph 1: a civil war is unlikely
Paragraph 2: the DoD is going to facilitate a coup to take control of the government.
Paragraph 3: the decadent west will collapse in on itself.
Dude you really went from 0-60 in 3.5 paragraphs.
What are you on about? Crazy cultist fraction of a political party act out in violence and the other political party decides regular authorities nor even military are not enough to handle organized domestic terrorism but retaliates by own volition? How? By blowing up the neighbouring substation? Political activists driving around in armoured gas powered SUVs vs electric vehicles competing who can damage society most? The absolute majority of people that just want a stable life and feel generally disconnected from politics goes bananas and start shooting and looting and killing over minor disagreements? Bitcoin and gold becomes the most valuable currency along with ammunition and canned beans? Or the worst crime against humanity and allow the normal course of legal process as if the leadership and participants were just like any other citizens doing unlawful activities? Oh no, where be my pearls?
The GOP is a party of cowards. They go along with Trump and all the crazy narratives only because they're afraid of being primaried and losing their positions.
There is a potential for violence and domestic terrorism but it would be a disorganized mess. Just the few true believers duped by the crazy narratives into doing something stupid.
A bunch of fat, crazy LARPers in the woods does not a confederacy make.
That sounds cool fun and easy but armed and untrained and undisciplined nut jobs crawling from the woodwork is not going to be a clean finish for anyone involved. Obviously this isn't meant to be a deterrent for the justice system... but we're working on a different tier here. It's not going to be high profile business and agencies fighting each other. It's going to be normal working people being attacked by deranged wing nuts and always by surprise, because there will be no centcom for them.
So, if you think you're going to be prepared for an outcome like this, I do wonder what you're packing.
Dramatic and doomerpilled.
The US military will aggressively dismantle any secessionist activity if it comes to blood. Hopefully we get to see some combined arms ops with the good tech for once instead of holding back.
Meanwhile I'm gonna crack cold ones while I watch red states suffer from their own actions.
The US military will aggressively dismantle any secessionist activity if it comes to blood.
There will definitely be no mistakes they make that cost uninvolved citizens their lives. No matter what, the U.S. military will never be wielded against opponents of the ruling regime, nor in a way that serves the personal interests of those in power.
Seriously, this is a bad outcome. This is a worse outcome. I'd rather have individuals crawling from the woodwork than the U.S. military being used against citizens.
No it's not. These fuck twits are about as inept as a guard in Metal Gear Solid. Throw em a few bones of disinformation, throw em in a bad scenario trapped, light em up. Rinse, wash, repeat. They will infight the fuck out of enough defeats.
"Civil War" is just some fear mongering posturing. Nothing more.
I've been seeing a few documentary style videos on YouTube talking about the uptick in far-right groups in the US. One guy was able to talk to a former group member, saying for the past year or-so they've been "preparing" for a civil war. Another member said they had people intentionally join the army to try and get people on the inside.
Documentary bro tried to contact the FBI about it and was able to get in contact with an agent, but the FBI essentially said they wouldn't do anything about it.
Although I don't think a civil war is going to happen anytime soon, it's scary to think that the FBI doesn't seem to care about any of this.
Small cell facebookers are not any threat to society
Don't worry, he's going to Federal prison, not jail.
Reconstruction this time, but the radicals never lose power.
It won't.
I don’t think anyone really “won” the civil war. We’re still feeling its effects to this day.
No. The North definitely won.
And I think every black person will agree that that matters.
Going to try to give a different perspective here, bear with me. I'm neither left nor right as they are both taking sides of the corral I wouldn't be in. They are however both taking this very seriously, so I'm thinking cartoon memes of Civil War might be make a person, mmm, callous towards it? Civil War conditions don't allow much hanging out on the Internet at home right? Maybe the meme sell is you will be able to do that?
There are surely many deadly people on all sides out there especially if your skills in are in computers and memes. I would think that is the last thing either side would really want!
Reality check for those perception manipulating about the South, um, that is where the majority of US Special Forces are born, those people grow up with guns.
We who? Lincoln was a Republican.
Y'all be tripping, hahaha
Not sure how they relate to civil war.
Working class vs wealthy class war is way better than wasting tine with what you mention.
I know it is a joke...
What class do you think the South represented? They were wealthy landowners who acquired their wealth by exploiting their slaves and the ignorant poor.
What class do you think republicans represent? Republicans offer trillions in tax cuts to the ultra wealthy who gained their wealth by exploiting their workers.
Is it really, though? The guy is a piece of shit but he was president for four years and America survived.
When a man slams his head into my window, and the glass cracks but doesn't shatter, my response is not "He can do it again, no big deal, the window didn't break", it's "Holy shit did I get lucky, someone stop that stupid fuck from doing that again"
"Well, he survived the first plane crash, and subsequent explosion....he'll be fine in the next one. Hey you remembered the double-barrel, right?"
