Disney Introduces Christian Character After Ditching Transgender Story
Disney Introduces Christian Character After Ditching Transgender Story
The character of Laurie on the new show "Win or Lose" is the first openly Christian character to feature on a Disney show for almost 20 years.
cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/39925777
What if I am offended by Christian characters, something wildly inappropriate for young impressionable minds?
Honestly it is two faces of the same coin
Yeah I'm being facetious and flipping that coin over 🙂
Don’t watch it! We should always vote what we like with our wallets. If we all do, it will all figure itself out.
Disney be like: "Friendship ended with rainbow capitalism, now christian capitalism is my best friend."
Any way the wind blows...
Doesn't really matters to me.....
Nothing seems to be holy to these 'Christians'. Some are making terrible jokes about all Muslims having to deal with the consequences of hell, because of their fake believe - Others are even joking about the holocaust.. why do you even need a book if you have no morals?
Most Christians don't read the Bible. Of those that do, most don't understand it. Of those that do understand it, most aren't Christians anymore.
Source: 5 years of seminary and 15 years of teaching scripture.
The State Religion, I guess.
boo Disney. Spineless.
Spineless? They're rainbow capitalists through and through. Fuck them.
No, they aren't. They're just capitalists and will say and do whatever makes them the most money. Previously, that was slapping rainbows on shit, but now it's not.
But yes, absofuckinglutly fuck then.
Disney has a history of gay censorship, and seem to have Christian movies every year à la Christmas
Religion or LGBT is a false dichotomy and shit like this just fuels division.
Fuck you Disney
Yup. Disney doesn't stand for anything. They just pander to wherever they think the money is.
Priesthood was a religious answer for gay men historically, before more modern sects that are openly accepting. The modern non-denominational Christian churches are just cancer.
Rainbow capitalism, I've looked into LGBTq+ forums, subs it hurts the community and movements more than it helps them
See, I actually agree with a lot of people who say they hate "Woke Things"
Because 7 out of 10 times, they're just mad at Rainbow Capitalism trying and failing to pander to "t3h gays", but for some reason believe that "t3h gays" asked for it, when in reality we did not.... the other 3 times nothing's wrong and "Woke" is just code for "There was a black guy who did something outside of be comic relief, but if I said that aloud people would call me racist... Which I am"
it was only a matter of time. Ms Marvel had openly Muslim characters and Turning Red had Buddhists.
The Hunchback of Notre Dame
The Chronicles of Narnia
Crazy how they just gave up on the Narnia series. You'd think the original YA novel series would have been easy to punch up and deliver as AAA Cinema slop. Instead the whole thing fell apart inside three films (the first two of which were fairly well received, and riding tight on the LotR blockbuster adaptation, to boot).
I guess it was just too many characters, too much technical expertise, and too much hard work. Far easier to release a bunch of Sound of Freedom tier psycho-sexual thrillers. Something you can film with a handy cam, a fist full of confused child actors, and a dime bag of columbian white to get Jim Caviezel zooted out of his gord.
This is the first openly Christian character to feature in a Disney film since 2007's Bridge to Terabithia.
So it's not really the first then, is it?
An exclusive poll for Newsweek conducted by Redfield and Wilton Strategies in July found that 34 percent of viewers disapproved of Disney's attempt to add more LGBTQ+ topics to its content.
This I never understand. If Disney is a for profit company, why would they not listen to their majority? Aren't they leaving money on the table like this? "Well, because of Trump." Yeah but how does that matter, specifically? (The article does not go in to detail about that) Is Trump going to compensate them for it??
This article isn't very well written. Many such cases, sadly.
Because it's not about majority rules but the bottom line.
In other words, those 30 some odd percent could be so disgusted by LGBT content that they will cancel. Or stir shit up and cause a boycott. Where as the majority just really doesn't care one way or the other.
The majority may be vocal about this, but that doesn't matter as long as the bottom line isn't affected.
My interpretation is less about pandering to the perceived majority and more about avoiding drawing negative attention from the Trump/Musk administration which is clearly very petty and very receptive to virtue signals. Do they kiss the ring? They get special treatment. Do they do something perfectly within their rights that Trump doesn't like? He'll find some way to make them hurt for it and take whatever concessions they offer to avoid being hurt
because maga voters are more likely to send bomb threats
Note your comment states 34 percent disagree, but didn't state how many didn't care one way or the other, or rate the relative likelihood of spending money or refusing to based on the stance.
The snowflake conservatives may be more likely to get offended and boycott. It may be that 50 percent didn't care either way, so the trade off becomes 34 versus 16 percent. I suppose from another comment it seems like their poll returned approximately 1/3rd disliked, 1/3rd wanted, and 1/3rd didn't care. So they can probably have their cake and eat it too by waffling a bit on the issue to have both sides buying up their preferred content to "prove" to Disney the right way to go, even if they boycott the current "wrong" mindset, they may want to spend on their favored content to steer things. But those thirds still don't reflect the nuance of how much they like/dislike to know if liking LGBT inclusion is a "good on them, even though I'm not that personally invested" or more "I will not give them a dime if they don't have inclusion".
Of course they may also be concerned about their place in a potential authoritarian state and aligning themselves is a way to avoid being a target. If after all of the doom and gloom turn out to be wrong and progressives come back in a few years, then they just have to have their logo be rainbow colored for a bit and have a few progressive characters and all will be forgiven.
The majority doesn't approve of more LGBT characters either, it's just Newsweek being intentionally misleading.
In summary, 36 percent disapproved in some form, 34 percent approved, while 31 percent neither approved nor disapproved, or didn't know how they felt.
I'd venture the majority of people prefer a good story. When you shoehorn any elements into a story it distracts the audience. The Star Trek Beyond Lt Sulu scene is a good example it did not provide any character or story development. Many of the star wars shows have similar elements which hurt an all ready damaged story.
It's Newsweek.
Is Disney publicly traded? Because you're not taking into account stock trading in the insane-o market where speculation on possible public opinion can devalue a product by 100% for 2 days. They could be losing possible trade money if that 34% disapproval caused stockholders to short before other people sold and the prices go into freefall.
It all makes sense.
Is Trump going to compensate them for it??
I mean, considering his pettiness, probably. Either with carrot or stick, he wants to be heard and wants people to bend over backwards to gain his approval. In exchange, he might do a tax cut or two for those who manage to please him, while he'll try to crush those who oppose him.
I hope this means that they have canceled the Snow White movie.
Nah, they just made her whiter and the dwarves a white supremacist survivalist militia.
Honestly I sometimes watch racist movies from the 50's because of my dark sense of humor.
I mean, my sister killed that movie for me when I was a kid, just like Little Mermaid.
But now that I have a choice, I choose not to watch those movies.
But if you want to change a German folklore story that was written in 1812 with a bunch of stupid ideologies, you can watch it all you want lol
Wouldn't be surprised if the Trump administration threatened Disney into ditching it.
Let's be real no threat is needed. If this made them win craploads of money they would be plastering Disney world with transexual parades every second of the day
The fact that they are not doing it says a lot
It'll be interesting to see a character following the teachings of Jesus Christ, like
- Luke 16:13 "You cannot serve both God and money."
- Mark 10:21 "Go, sell everything you have and give to the poor"
- Matthew 5:39 "If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also."
- Matthew 5:44 "love your enemies"
So there's no chance the character will be a capitalist, troop-supporting, neo-Nazi. Right?
One of my personal favorites:
- Luke 12:46-48:
46 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he does not know, and will cut him in pieces, and assign him a place with the unbelievers. 47 And that slave who knew his master’s will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes, 48 but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of [d]a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.
Jesus sure loved his slaves, huh? Gives you guidelines on how to beat them. Told people to "love your enemies," but clearly people you own don't deserve that courtesy. He hung out with prostitutes, but was never able to disavow the practice of owning other humans as property? Kind of unacceptable imo.
The canonical Bible (the supposed ordained word of god) also include's Paul's further interpretation of Jesus' teachings on slaves in...
- Ephesians 6:5–8:
5 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.
Oof.
Do you think that Christianity became the religion of imperialism out of coincidence?
“Openly” as if Christians aren’t the dominant cultural and political group in the USA
Yeah, "demonstrably" or "obnoxiously" would probably be much more accurate..
I dont see how this is news there are millions of christians its not insane for one to show up in a disney movie, the trans argument is usually they are like .001% of the population but get more representation than the rest, I think its all stupid either way and the ppl making shit should be allowed to cast whatever fits their vision and not trends
Eww, yuck. I’ll pass on that one.
Did you also pass on Ms Marvel and Turning Red?
No. Their religion was just a part of their character from the beginning. They didn’t have to “come out” as religious.
The very notion that someone has to “come out” as Christian is an absurdity. Christians aren’t a persecuted group, although they would like you to think they were. They want so badly to be the victims, but they’re really the oppressor.
Disney said the same lmao
a shift in conservative culture
independent poll that shows 34% being against a trans character
conservative terrorists are the greatest threat domestically
I guess Nazis saying "I'll fucking kill you and your kids you woke traitor" and then Americans being afraid to participate in democracy does qualify as a shift towards conservativism.
Disus Christ enters chat - because Disney and Jesus are now brothers.
Better headline, "Disney toes the line for Nazi scum, and Walt himself was a Nazi sympathiser even after Kristallnacht. EPCOT was his fascistic wet dream. Fuck Disney throughout time."
Never heard of EPCOT before, quickly scanned over the Wikipedia article:
what's the problem of that theme park?
Before he died, the idea of EPCOT was to create his vision of an actual city, not just a park attraction. I read a quote from him about it that seems very much in the vein of Mussolini's idea of fascism as the fusion of corporate and state power,
“There will be no landowners and therefore no voting control. People will rent houses instead of buying them, and at modest rentals. There will be no retirees; everyone must be employed.”
I am curious as to which flavor of Christianity they are portraying 🤔
Supply side Jesus, presumably.
The hypocritical one. Oh, wait…
Southern Baptist
(Joking I don't know)
Corporate "allyship" at its finest.
Disney will be happy to fight for the rights of LGBT people.... When it's profitable and will not actually show up to the battle until AFTER the oppressed person has won.
Corporate "allyship" was all for show.
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I feel like these corps did a calculation and figured out everyone has an excuse to not boycott companies like Disney except right wingers who have become exceptionally good at the boycott.
In my experience those people will typically boycott brands as a group meanwhile my friends find every excuse in the book to support the major corps hurting them. Even aoc went to Florida during covid. And people wonder why they win.
The worst part is Conservatives actually ARE NOT good at boycotts
Just look at how badly the Bud Light boycott failed, and the reason why was because drinkers boycotted Bud Light and then started drinking... Other beers made by literally the same company.
And of course there were the people who bought Jerseys just to turn around and burn them in order to protest the NFL.
Then again I broke my own rules and ate at a Chic-Fil-A for the first time in years, because I was depressed and the thing in my head that drops sadness hormones told me it'd shut up if I got waffle fries dipped in ranch, so..... You kinda still have a point
To be fair it was my first Chic-Fil-A meal in like 9 years, and on the Black Out Day I did shop yes, but I did so at a Locally Owned Chain that is owned by a Gay Guy who donates to Food Banks... Avoiding ALL gas stations despite having a quarter tank left....
But still... we all need to practice self-awareness
Yup. Leftists Don't have that insane person conviction. Dip shits need to learn to boycott
This leftist has boycotted everything Sony since they bricked my PC with their rootkit in the early 2000s (and I really go out of my way to make sure nothing Sony related comes in my house, not their music, movies, games, electronics, nor their camera lenses) I only slipped up once in the past 20 or so years, when I purchased a second hand Sony Walkman mp3 player. Thing broke within 3 months of use, it's now a constant reminder that I really need to keep boycotting Sony.
I've started boycotting Amazon (including but not limited to Kindle, Audible, Prime and Twitch) and Disney since this year.
But I'm only one person.
I have shown myself to be capable of long term boycotts and I don't intend to let up. I've added Amazon's websites to my Pihole's blacklist.
But I also don't pirate their stuff. As far as I'm concerned their TV shows and movies and such don't exist on this planet.
*Disnep
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Does this Christian character get made fun of all the time for being out of touch with reality? Is this why Kathleen is out, too much jesus? lol, probably not.
Christians rarely get made fun of media, evangelicals will throw a fit. To give an example supernatural show had to shoehorn "God" as the original creator to non Christian gods and religions, the writers were afraid of the snowflake christians
Now I feel even less guilty about stealing Star Wars content.
You should never feel guilty about pirating anything.
Is being inclusive of people with cognitive reasoning disabilities a bad thing?
Well now I can say Disney is woke. They woke up to kiss the ring and bow down to a fucking shit lip.
Given the nature of the show, and the fact it is set in modern day America, it would be stranger if it didn't have a Christian kid in it.
Removing any references to being transgender is pretty shitty though.
Depends where in American, where I'm at it's more unusual to be publicly Christian than publicly non-religious
I wonder how China will react. Plus for them: no trans character. Minus for them: replaced with Christian insurgent.
If China just goes pro LGBT, it'll be a clear sign that despite China being China, it might be time to move to China.
That to me would be a predecessor of brain drain.
Smart people are kinky af.
This headline might as well be from The Babylon Bee.
Any word on whether they're going to start telling good stories?
The Trump administration probably threatened to break up Disney.
Let’s hope so, it’d be a shame if they did this on their own initiative.
The Trump administration probably threatened to break up Disney.
Let’s hope so, it’d be a shame if they did this on their own initiative.
That might be true, but also corporations always chase after approval of the White House, regardless of who's in there at the time. It's good for business.
Nah, they probably realized that parents are generally more conservative than most and more likely to be Christian than the general population. They're following the money.
bohemian rhapsody ... any where the wind blows. now disney is allowed to get back to their antisemitic, racist, anti union, walt disney roots
Bohemian Rhapsody the movie is itself something being altered to make it more palatable. True gay love can only be experienced shortly before one buries their gay, and you could cut that movie so there’d be no discussion of Freddie’s sexuality at all.
Kinda like how even the crumbs of gay Dumbledore in Fantastic Beasts are little bits unrelated to the plot that can be sloughed off in any queer unfriendly place it needs to be released. Maybe companies can start teaming up with VidAngel, and we’ll get “Christian” releases of movies too.
