Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)
Nvidia Announces RTX 50's Graphic Card Blackwell Series: RTX 5090 ($1999), RTX 5080 ($999), RTX 5070 Ti ($749), RTX 5070 ($549)
The RTX 50-series is officially here.
I'll just keep buying AMD thanks.
They're not even pretending to be affordable any more.
Unfortunately, that's the anti-scalper countermeasure. Crippling their crypto mining potential didn't impact scalping very much, so they increased the price with the RTX 40 series. The RTX 40s were much easier to find than the RTX 30s were, so here we are for the RTX 50s. They're already on the edge of what people will pay, so they're less attractive to scalpers. We'll probably see an initial wave of scalped 3090s for $3500-$4000, then it will drop off after a few months and the market will mostly have un-scalped ones with fancy coolers for $2200-$2500 from Zotac, MSI, Gigabyte, etc.
The far cry benchmark is the most telling. Looks like it's around a 15% uplift based on that.
About two months ago I upgraded from 3090 to 4090. On my 1440p I basically couldn't tell. I play mostly MMOs and ARPGs.
Those genres aren't really known for having brutal performance requirements. You have to play the bleeding edge stuff that adds prototype graphics postprocessing in their ultra or optional settings.
When you compare non RT performance the frame delta is tiny. When you compare RT it's a lot bigger. I think most of the RT implementations are very flawed today and that it's largely snake oil so far, but some people are obsessed.
I will say you can probably undervolt / underclock / power throttle that 4090 and get great frames per watt.
Shouldn’t have upgraded then….
By rendering only 25% of the frames we made DLSS4 100% faster than DLSS3. Which only renders 50% of the frames! - NVIDIA unironically
You living in the past, rendering 100% of the frames is called Brute Force Rendering, that's for losers.
With only 2k trump coins our new graphic card can run Cyberpunk 2077, a game from 4 years ago, at 30 fps with RTX ON but you see with DLSS and all the other
crapmagic we can run at 280 FPS!!! Everything is blurry and ugly as fuck but look at the numbers!!!
I'm sure these will be great options in 5 years when the dust finally settles on the scalper market and they're about to roll out RTX 6xxx.
Scalpers were basically non existent in the 4xxx series. They're not some boogieman that always raises prices. They work under certain market conditions, conditions which don't currently exist in the GPU space, and there's no particular reason to think this generation will be much different than the last.
Maybe on the initial release, but not for long after.
The 4090 basically never went for MSRP until Q4 2024.... and now it's OOS everywhere.
nobody scalped the 4080 because it was shit price/perf. 75% of the price of a 4090 too... so why not just pay the extra 25% and get the best?
the 4070ti (aka base 4080) was too pricey to scalp given that once you start cranking up the price then why not pay the scalper fee for a 4090.
Things below that are not scalp worthy.
This is absolutely 3dfx level of screwing over consumers and all about just faking frames to get their "performance".
"T-BUFFER! MOTION BLUR! External power supplies! Wait, why isn't anyone buying this?"
They aren't making graphics cards anymore, they're making AI processors that happen to do graphics using AI.
Maybe I’m stuck in the last decade, but these prices seem insane. I know we’ve yet to see what a 5050 (lol) or 5060 would be capable of or its price point. However launching at $549 as your lowest card feels like a significant amount of the consumer base won’t be able to buy any of these.
Sadly I think this is the new normal. You could buy a decent GPU, or you could buy an entire game console. Unless you have some other reason to need a strong PC, it just doesn't seem worth the investment.
At least Intel are trying to keep their prices low. Until they either catch on, in which case they'll raise prices to match, or they fade out and leave everyone with unsupported hardware.
Actually AMD has said they're ditching their high end options and will also focus on budget and midrange cards. AMD has also promised better raytracing performance (compared to their older cards) so I don't think it will be the new norm if AMD also prices their cards competitively to Intel. The high end cards will be overpriced as it seems like the target audience doesn't care that they're paying shitton of money. But budget and midrange options might slip away from Nvidia and get cheaper, especially if the upscaler crutch breaks and devs have to start doing actual optimizations for their games.
They'll sell out anyways due to lack of good competition. Intel is getting there but still have driver issues, AMD didn't announce their GPU prices yet but their entire strategy is following Nvidia and lowering the price by 10% or something.
AMD is the competition.
Weird completely unrelated question. Do you have any idea why you write "Anyway" as "Anyways"?
It's not just you, it's a lot of people, but unlike most grammar/word modifications it doesn't really make sense to me. Most of the time the modification shortens the word in some way rather than lengthening it. I could be wrong, but I don't remember people writing or saying "anyway" with an added "s" in anyway but ironically 10-15 years ago, and I'm curious where it may be coming from.
So much of nvidia's revenue is now datacenters, I wonder if they even care about consumer sales. Like their consumer level cards are more of an advertising afterthought than actual products.
The performance improvements claims are a bit shady as they compare the old FG technique which only creates one frame for every legit frame, with the next gen FG which can generate up to 3.
All Nvidia performance plots I've seen mention this at the bottom, making comparison very favorable to the 5000 series GPU supposedly.
Edit:
Thanks for the heads up.
I really don't like that new Frame interpolation tech and think it's almost only useful to marketers but not for actual gaming.
At least I wouldn't touch it with any competitive game.
Hopefully we will get third party benchmarks soon without the bullshit perfs from Nvidia.
LOL, their demo shows Cyberpunk running at a mere 27fps on the 5090 with DLSS off. Is that supposed to sell me on this product?
Nvidia Core i5.
Two problems, they are big ones:
- The hardware is expensive for a marginal improvement
- The games coming out that best leverage the features like Ray tracing are also expensive and not good
Nvidia claims the 5070 will give 4090 performance. That's a huge generation uplift if it's true. Of course, we'll have to wait for independent benchmarks to confirm that.
The best ray tracing games I've seen are applying it to older games, like Quake II or Minecraft.
I expect they tell us it can achieve that because under the hood DLSS4 gives it more performance if enabled.
But is that a fair comparison?
More Shenanigans. Moooore !
No thanks; I'm good. Still feeling the sting over buying my 4080 Super last spring. Also it's doing me just fine for my work and for games.
I think it's going to be a long time before I upgrade my graphics card with these prices.
I'm waiting for that new Intel gear.
