Project for people leaving Google Maps.

There’s a small learning curve I wish some bothered to understand first. Does this app help? The part of this I don’t like is vacationers leaving useless names like ‘Mango lady’, ‘many street vendors’ for a block, or ‘local restaurant’ since they can’t read the sign as opposed marking up the cuisine type, maybe adding an English description, & leaving the name blank. Nobody expects uploads to be perfect but Bangkok is littered with this noise that makes it hard to follow or find things.

Every Door

thank you for sharing, definitely the easiest for Android from my research :-)
Note: there is a comparison of editor apps here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Comparison_of_editors

It says “page not found”, maybe because I'm not in EU.

Link to fdroid next time

Street Complete is a great app for quests regarding existing features, but also consider the feature might not exist at all yet in OSM.

Map Complete is great for adding new features. It also asks a bunch of optional simple questions about the feature which gets converted into the relevant OSM tags. It's browser based but you can just add a shortcut to your home screen to have it quickly accessible.

I've just installed this now, thanks for the tip!

So many quests right on my street!

im on board with the idea in general, but im not going to do this. it would be an endless effort to the benefit of almost nobody. places go up and down so fast here that google maps is often out of date too. it's filled with stale information and im flagging missing places constantly. every digital community in this country is a garbage pile.

the ride share apps here do use open street maps though, and im making corrections to building addresses when i find something isn't right. it's great.

I use Vespucci, it's advanced but still pretty easy if you just want to do basic editing. https://vespucci.io/

P.s. how do you link to an app on fdroid?

Yeah, it's interesting to look through the edit history over the years. With StreetComplete I recently fixed ~8 stores that were many years out of date, during an hour walk.

It's fun to find a real hole-in-the-wall that even google maps doesn't have.

And there are apps that make it very very easy and fun. Check out street complete.

I just recently learned this.

For OsmAnd, go to search, then the categories tab, and then hit "Online Search".

Voila, address lookup.

I have found Organic Map's search to be far better than OSMand. OSMand has far more features though.

What does the size of the country have to do with it? Which good big and bad small countries are you talking about?

And then in the web app, you need to do this complicated hold-LMB-then-select-from-list to select something, making just browsing really difficult.

Or is there a better way of doing that? I lack a good way to just browse Openstreetmap.

F-Droid link: Street­Complete (OpenStreetMap surveyor app) https://f-droid.org/packages/de.westnordost.streetcomplete/

Yea, I've used that, but it's a phone app. Riders need a one-touch solution on Garmin (or other bike computers, but Garmin dominates the market right now).

So for the tracking and planning part, you could use OSMAnd. It's UI is a bit confusing but it does work welll. My typical setup is:

• Plan route in OSMAnd
• Record route with a garmin
• Upload GPX to self-hosted Fittrackee or Wanderer

However you may be asking for something more like RideWithGPS.com?

• It has the map corpus from OpenStreetMap, so one of the best in the world
• It works offline - just download the desired maps onto the device
• That makes it really, really fast. Google Maps is slower
• You can also use it in areas with bad reception. I'm using it for hiking in the woods where there is no cell phone connection available
• I really like the UI - they are f.e. better at displaying house numbers and street names than Google.
• No ads

It shows me where the speed cameras are :)

google maps can do that too though

The difficulty is asking people to get started with this. People want to get to work/navigate as quickly as possible to where they need to be, they don't want to be figuring it out. Social media can be janky and you'll be patient, but if you're late for something because you're struggling to adjust to an app you're more likely to go back to Google/Apple Maps

Agreed! I got one for that too:

Lemmy vs Reddit

Monthly Users (0.004%) 44k vs 1.2b

I just did 30 minutes of contributing to the osm database.

I think the point is 8× more contributions

Its good to know how you measure up against the big corpos.

Yeah, and Wikipedia, linux,... have become important as well, without big corpo

Proton is 5.5% the size of G-mail. 100m vs 1.8b.

You might have to enable showing apps with other anti-features in f-droid settings.

https://fosstodon.org/@organicmaps/113050148958376004

I'm showing it from a basic search. Are you using a fork of F-Droid?

Also nice to download all the Wikipedia data for the area, so you can read about places you visit...again, all without data.

Anything that keeps maps in local storage so you can use GPS while offline is somewhere between very helpful and lifesaving. Sounds like Osmand is in there.

Organic Maps lets you download also. I got it specifically for backpacking because it enabled that. It certainly has been worth the $0. I should probably donate something each trip.

Definetly one of the subscriptions I don't regret as much as others but still a steep cost for my frequency of usage. I need it approx 6 weeks per year and only as backup when traveling/hiking.

A free alternative (simply Osm) is much appreciated.

I use FDroid, but OSMand from the play store has the subscription.

The phone sensors are so advanced that tools like "Sleep as Android" can record a perfect sleep snapshot just by leaving the phone on the bed while sleeping. I think Google can also record "private encounters" too. Actually, everything with a good sensor (smart watch(!)) can record everything. I am saying don't be afraid, be horrified :-)

I was seeing that brought up in many of the other comments, and I had apparently installed it at some point. So I have finally signed into it and even added some info one some road types around me! Even if I don't find a replacement for the community reporting of cops and hazards like Waze. I am jazzed to be helping OSM get just a bit closer to being a great option to recommend to friends and normies! Lots of them will only try other options as long as it is close enough to what they already use.

@Melatonin @MigratingtoLemmy

Not Organic Maps, that's just the client. The data is OpenStreetMap, more info about imports here: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import

Dang it! Didn't even think to check ... Boo! Organic Maps it is!

I'd like to know as well actually as I've found the same. Maybe I'm just using Organic Maps wrong? But if I am, then am I wrong or is Organic Maps as Magic Earth works so much more seamlessly. Magic Earth website clearly states it uses OSM.

If you use OSMAnd, definitely look at importing addresses from this repo: https://github.com/pnoll1/osmand_map_creation

It substantially improves the issue I think you are describing by collating address data from OpenAddresses and making that available in the OSMAnd search.

They already have. Have you noticed the number of ads shown on google maps?

No? I've never seen any ads on Google Maps, though this might be a local thing. I suspect this is different in the US where "consumer rights" gets you a fine for speaking such communist propaganda?

It's only a matter of time before Google doesn't give you directions for the shortest and most efficient route, but rather plans your route to send you past the stores that pay the most in advertising.

"You could get to your destination by going down smith street fastest, but Glover Street has McDonald's so we will send you down that road"

Oh hell, I have not had that one yet. I am already leaning away from it with just the random pins showing up on my nav that were not searched for.

Enshittification truly is a shame, because my old school GPS actually does this already (Turn left past the McDonald's) and while I have no idea whether it's paid promotion or not on my device, I like that feature. If that feature is equally applied to any known business as a landmark (heck, even other services like police stations, fire stations, etc.) it would be appreciated by users.

Instead, and here we are beating this drum again, capitalism gets its grubby fingers in this pie too and uses it for further advertising, turning a good feature into a bad one.

God I hope not. OpenHarmony is a neat project.

According to Wikipedia:

HarmonyOS NEXT (Chinese: 鸿蒙星河版; pinyin: Hóngméng Xīnghébǎn) is a proprietary distributed operating system and a major iteration of HarmonyOS, developed by Huawei to support only HarmonyOS native apps. The operating system is primarily aimed at software and hardware developers that deal directly with Huawei. It does not include Android's AOSP core and is incompatible with Android applications.

But for has android auto, you have to had android auto, and google services, so....

@dessalines @sassypablo You can try #OSMAnd optional with #BikeRouter

I am, and have been, relying on Transportr in multiple European countries, and it's been a joy. Only problem I've had is that additional information from the provider (temporary changes on the route etc.) isn't there, but that's no biggie. Sad to hear it's been unmaintained, hoping it'll keep working. Though, forking and updating the APIs for future broken providers wouldn't be too troublesome, right?

There's also Öffi which was last updated on F-Droid 16 days ago. It does pretty much the same job as Transportr, though it visualises the overview of journeys in a different graphical way than the list of Transportr, which is why I liked Transportr better. However, Öffi has some other neat features that Transportr doesn't have, such as listing the upcoming departures for all nearby stations/stops at once, based on your location.

2. It would be cool if there was an opt-in libre database to which we could submit pseudonymous traffic data. It would be hard to prevent sybil attacks though.