Opinion: Kamala Harris and Gretchen Whitmer could make a winning ticket for Democrats | CNN
Opinion: Kamala Harris and Gretchen Whitmer could make a winning ticket for Democrats | CNN
If President Joe Biden decides to withdraw from the election, Democrats need not fear — they have a ticket in front of them that can still defeat presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump.
Idk. America is still pretty racist and even more sexist.
Sexist enough that a woman who no one likes won the popular vote in 2016. ....
Joe would have won that election, let alone Bernie. It would have been a different world today
I remember the conservatives I worked with hated H. Clinton for "wanting to take our guns away." I told her (it was a white 20 year old girl I was talking to specifically in this group) that whole idea is untrue.
Clinton didn't lose because of her horrible treatment of Africans, her philosophy that abortion should be a states' right issue, because she is a woman, etc. She lost because the "Dems want our guns" propaganda. Conservatives are a simple breed.
I think people underestimate how much the Clinton name helped her even when the sexism hurt her. Beyond maybe Michelle Obama now, I can't think of any other woman out there likely to perform as well as Hilary did. During the race, I heard more than one person make comments along the lines of "If she's in trouble, she can just call her husband". She definitely got a lot more points from the Clinton name than she lost for being a woman. It's a sad world sometimes, yall.
I personally think Bill Clinton's brother Roger could have won that race even with all his controversies and the fact that he has zero qualifications.
It’s a sad but fair point
Did you forget that Hilary Clinton won the popular vote?
Whatever we're doing, we need to do it fast and commit to it.
RN, Biden is still the best odds at beating Trump by the sheer fact that he's the incumbent. Why do you think all of the rightmost Dems and the Russian shills are hopping aboard the replacement train? Because they want Trump to win.
Yeah, unfortunately, there's a calculus here that isn't entirely clear. The right-wing, the accelerationists, and the Russian shills are all on board with this because they THINK it's a losing proposition for the Democrats. However, whether it is ACTUALLY a losing proposition is... uncertain.
We live in a fucked-up political era. I think a replacement could go either way. I'm not thrilled about the idea, but we're rolling the dice either way, so I'm not going to let either outcome change my disposition much. What I know is that I'm voting against fascism this November, and anyone who expresses doubts as to whether THEY'RE voting against fascism are, at best, useful idiots for fascism, and at worst, fascists who are too cowardly to admit it.
I think the commitment part is going to be a problem this election cycle.
Oh please no. Not more establishment bullshit.
Find somebody young and energetic to bring some fresh ideas and new energy. A young Bernie Sanders type. They will mop the floor with Trump.
We're getting establishment bullshit no matter what. May as well have establishment bullshit that can beat Trump.
But just passively accepting the establishment bullshit while not even voicing displeasure is a recipe for more and more severe establishment bullshit.
If the billionaire fucks are shoving turds into our throats while calling those smelly turds "brownies," at least they need to hear us moan. We don't gotta dignify this bullshit with polite smiles all around.
Find someone you can't name then.
Kamala Harris cannot win. I hate Trump, but Kamala Harris won’t win against Trump and shouldn’t even be Biden’s VP pick in the first place.
CNN would love for her to run cause they know that she can't win.
She'll never win President of Lemmy, that's for sure.
sigh
. . . Ok.
If Whitmer’s all-in and everyone super swears she can be a charming candidate for two months, fine. I want it noted my preference is Whitmer/AOC but I appreciate the optics.
Goddammit. If it gets us a reprieve from diseased lunatics for four years, fine.
Oh she could easily win, you just don't like her.
CNN is a fucking joke. They literally want the Dems to crash and burn, so take any of their "advice and opinion" with a few metric tons of salt.
I think Gavin Newsom would do better than Kamala.
Gavin is a corporate whore, but better than a cop Kamala. Indeed a teensy wee bit better.
Wont have a good natinal turnout imo
I disagree. I am not a newsom fan because I'm a progressive. I'm from SF and endured him since he was mayor here. But I believe he would absolutely create a higher turnout than Biden or Kamala. He would do a great job debating Trump, and rhetorically punching back at Republican talking points. Which is something Democrats and never trumpers crave desperately.
Sorry rest of the country, but we’d like to keep Big Gretch to ourselves. K Thx
Haven't heard of her,but Gretch sounds like the stronger side of the ticket based on the thread.
She’s cool enough to have a song made for her. I don’t know what that means, but…I’m not sure where I’m going with this lol
So is this the new Russian disinformation strategy? We loved on from Genocide Joe to let’s switch out. Iden?
Not going to happen, and I doubt any other candidate could do better at this point of the election cycle.
I already see our local Russian trolls spouting this bullshit.
This attitude that any criticism of Biden is from Russian trolls is getting a little tiresome. And childish
Was Biden looking like warmed over death a week ago Russia disinformation too? Or should I not trust my lying eyes?
He looked warmed over?
Biden should straight up resign and hand over power to Kamala now. That would short circuit the nomination process and completely undercut any argument that she's not up for the job if it's no longer hypothetical and she's actually just rocking it IRL.
America is sexist as fuck. Just having a woman running for President will cost the Dems more "independents" than Biden ever will.
America is more racist than sexist, yet it had a black president.
Sexist as fuck would be a place like Afghanistan.
"Rocking it" for a few months? Everyone will just say she's coasting in Biden's admin.
I'd rather see Whitmer and AOC, personally. Harris is disliked from both sides. I can't see her being an option. She has a 39% approval rating. She's even lower than Biden.
As much as I'd like to see another candidate replace Biden, it's too late in the game and Americans are generally idiots. They'll screw things up this late into the battle and Trump will win.
As much as I hate to admit it, Biden is probably the best path forward ..... Which gives me acid reflux a little bit to say, but the idea of Trump being president makes me want to jump off a bridge, so I'll take a couple antacids and hope for a better choice in 2028.
Unfortunately, removing Harris from the ticket doesn't have the best optics in a lot of scenarios.
Repeat 1968
Jill Biden and Kamala Harris...then they don't have to change any marketing materials.
Isn't that how it works now?
Jill Biden’s too smart for that.
WHAT PART DO THEY NOT UNDERSTAND: There's no changing the nominee at this point because they can't be put on the ballots in multiple states. Stop the bullshit.
The only reason this is even a question is that liberals are willing to consider the age problem; with Trump you have the age problem, the fascism problem (proj 2025), the insanity problem (shark batteries), the sex offender problem, and so, so, so many others.
Get it together.
NEVADA GEORGIA WISCONSIN
Come on you cowards, don't just downvote, tell me how losing ALL of those states is anything but an automatic loss?
Thanks, youtube videos posted by GOP War Room seem like a solid source of information, thanks for sharing