Let's not gloss over something important, Trump did try to get Hillary locked up. He had his justice department investigate her and the Clinton foundation both. They couldn't find evidence of crimes, so Hillary remains free.
Where Trump backed down was not going extra-judicial. But let's not let him off the hook, he tried, he's a despot.
And his cronies are still harping on it. There are people in positions of power, with money and influence, who are still trying to do everything to put Fuckface 45's "enemies" away.
Yes, but he’s vindictive, and Hillary was more of an obstacle than a threat.
Trump appointed 226 judges in just his first term. The only President in history to have appointed more in one term was Carter with 262. The most appointed in two terms was Reagan with 383. Trump is well over half way there.
With increased likelihood of getting one of his appointed judges, and conservative control of SCOTUS, this is a viable threat.
”I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of America, Joe Biden, and go after the Biden crime family,” Trump said in June at his Bedminster, New Jersey, residence, just hours after being arraigned at a federal courthouse in Miami on charges related to his handling of classified documents after he left the White House.
But Trump credited himself for not going after Clinton, compared to what is now being done to him.
“Some people said I should have done it, but, you know, could have, would have been very easy to do it, but I thought it would be a terrible precedent for our country,” Trump said. “And now, whoever it may be, you’re going to have to view it very much differently. This is a bad, bad road that they’re leading us down to as a country."
He won’t do it cause if he wins, Biden won’t be a threat. It would be a waste of time and energy for something nobody would actually care about at that point.
Because that's what you do for each other when you're in the same club
trump has spent his entire life trying to buy his way into the club. But he couldn't.
He was able to donate enough to Dems to get Bill and Hillary to his wedding.
But you can tell he legitimately thought if he did the "no time to divide the country" in 2020, that he'd get the same treatment.
That's why he's going so hard on "this isn't fair".
He didn't actually try to press charges on Hillary for her crimes (yes, they were a minor felony and misdemeanors, but still crimes). So he doesn't understand why he's got trials for his crimes (obviously they're much bigger crimes)
trump thought being a president finally got him into the club, it's probably the only reason he wanted to be president.
Since it didn't work, he's not going to drum up charges on everyone he disagrees with.
Which is why it makes zero sense Biden keeps pissing off his own voters. You'd think he'd be motivated to win when Trump will try to throw him and his whole family in jail.
But Biden won't stop denying genocide and making republican moves at the border, both of which violate laws and human rights.
He's got more to lose than anyone this election, and he refuses to act like it for some reason
Both these dipshits are well past their prime they have nothing to loose. Anything bad that happens for long term from any decision they well not be around for.
I mean why are gyiatrics the only people willing to run for government in the States?
There’s no realistic alternative to voting for Biden.
It’s either; make sure Trump loses, or watch the USA and the bulwark of democracy it represents around the world be destroyed.
(Edit: sorry for the rant)
I think most of the ‘low information voters’ (this actually means ‘low intelligence’ but people are afraid to say that) who think Trump is ‘as good or better than the other guy’ are utterly deluded. Their basic lack of intelligence and education has shown this to be the case anyway.
There is absolutely no excuse for voting for Trump unless you are utterly fucked in the head, or so cynical that you think you might make some Pugh money to survive once the US government implodes.
There is absolutely no excuse for voting for Trump unless you are utterly fucked in the head, or so cynical that you think you might make some Pugh money to survive once the US government implodes.
I fear too many people falsely believe that voting for Trump will somehow improve the economy for some reason. They believe that the freedoms we will lose and the marginalized groups that will suffer is just a fair trade in exchange for having a slightly easier time being gainfully employed. This won't be the case for anyone that's not a neurotypical straight white christian male but most of them won't realize this until it's too late.
[...] or watch the USA and the bulwark of democracy it represents around the world be destroyed.
Ok...but I'm watching that occur right now under Biden anyway. Like, dems desperately need to stop moving to the right, the distinction that you're trying to draw is becoming less and less meaningful with every lesser of two evils elected.
We need a party that allows fighters to lead the way, not fascists and corporate lapdogs. The party politics need to change yesterday, it's difficult for many voters to see that happening if neoliberalism isn't kicked to the curb.
Biden is not, as a matter of fact, pushing the Dens rightwards. He is however being forced to make decisions against his nature purely through the machinations of the GOP and their puppet masters.
Oh and don’t forget the Zionist lobby who are effectively the Nazis reborn into their victim’s skin.
The US does not represent democracy. And it is ever more clear it is not a democracy, but rather the illusion of one controlled by oligarchs and private interests. There is merely an illusion of choice.
I’m not sure.
Perhaps too driven by single-issue foreign policy to understand the wonder ramifications of potentially allowing Trump to win.
The thing they need to understand is that right now a vote for Biden is not a mandate for HIM or necessarily all of the policies that he is forced to carry out (and I mean forced by both GOP shenanigans (immigration stuff) and global strategic positions (Israel)) its a vote to stop the US being turned (even further) into a right wing shithole.
The thing I hate the most is that apparently we all have to just watch this slow-walk into fascism. We all watched him try to steal an election. We all saw him foment an insurrection. Everyone who has any sense knows full well what the kind of people he surrounds himself with are capable of, and what they want to do to so many people in this country if given a chance.
And yet: almost no one really addresses this head-on and speaks in very clear terms about what the stakes are. Instead, I hear total bullshit like #BidenSoOld and #gEnoCiDejOe <- Do the clowns that keep going on about that seriously not realize that a donnie "presidency" might result in all kinds of blood being spilled within our borders?
Yeah, that's what frustrates me. There are legitimate concerns around Biden as president. However, every single one of those concerns also applies to Trump, as well as a million more much worse concerns
Exactly. Biden's foreign policy - like just about every other politician, with very few exceptions - is going to be problematic on at least several key points. Anyone paying the least bit attention and not smitten by the "Washington consensus" already knows this.
But with Republicans in charge and donnie leading them - in addition to an even worse foreign policy, the domestic policy could be so much worse and this time around, there will be less guardrails, and no guarantee that we have any elections past 2024. It's clear donnie would rather it all burn down than he face even the least bit of consequences for anything he's done.
I honestly have no idea how much of the voting public actually thinks that way about biden though.
There's a dozen accounts or so here on lemmy who are just relentless with those lines of rhetoric. They do a good job of making it seem like everyone thinks that way.
If this can happen to Convicted Felon and Sex Offender Treason Trump, then it can happen to anybody who pays hush money to a porn star while running for president!!!
This is what I don't understand about establishment dems playing chicken with our Democracy, their neck is on the line too.
I really don't understand why they think making a show of being Republican Lite is ever going to start working. If someone wants a fascist they're just going to vote for a full-on fascist, not a half-fascist.
If we're gonna speak of possibles, its equally possible that fat orange oligarch wannabe will keel over dead before he can take any kind of political actions
Kissinger lived to be like 100. This motherfucker is gonna be around another 20 years. Spite and hate make you age horridly but you somehow survive off of it way longer than anyone expects.
Fresh off last week's historic guilty verdict, former President Donald Trump had a warning for his political opponents on Tuesday.
“I will appoint a real special prosecutor to go after the most corrupt president in the history of America, Joe Biden, and go after the Biden crime family,” Trump said in June at his Bedminster, New Jersey, residence, just hours after being arraigned at a federal courthouse in Miami on charges related to his handling of classified documents after he left the White House.
He also suggested there would be a "breaking point" for the public if he ends up serving jail time or imprisoned on house arrest after being found guilty in his hush money trial.
On Thursday, a New York jury found Trump guilty on all 34 felony counts in his hush money case, related to covering up payments to an adult film star in order to help 2016 campaign.
Judge Juan Merchan, who oversaw the hush money case, placed a gag order on Trump barring him from talking about jurors, potential witnesses and individual prosecutors that he has not lifted since the trial ended.
In January, after he continued to deny Carroll’s claims and attack her publicly, he was ordered to pay her an additional $83 million for defamation.
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trumps always wanted to be "in the club" that's all he's always wanted.
It why he donated so much to Democrats that Bill and Hillary felt obligated to attend one of his weddings.
He thought not pressing charges would get him "in the club" because the next president always pardons others because "consequences would divide the nation" or some other such bullshit.
He legit thought that would quid pro quo him into not facing any charges too.
If he gets office again, he's going after everyone who disagrees with him.
Which is why Dems need to either run a better candidate, or get Biden to stop fucking around and start listening to his voters.
It's too risky to keep using trump as an excuse to shove conservative Dems down America's throats.
We need to run a good campaign this time, with a good candidate.
He wanted to get in good with the Manhattan elites. He was given a golden opportunity to impress them, and threw it away because he's a stupid, arrogant, greedy idiot.