Teens abandon X and Facebook as TikTok and WhatsApp gain momentum, report

Has FB been cool since they got rid of signups limited by .edu email addresses?

It went downhill when poking and sheep throwing went away.

I'm 41.....you telling me the kids today don't think of me as the greatest person who ever existed??? Pssshhh that's malarkey! I won't hear of it! EVERYONE thinks I'm the greatest person who ever existed! My lexicon includes words like "malarkey" and "lexicon"! Kids think that's cool right???

That's about phone number requirement for signup. Not about platforms.

OK. Life is life.

I've just had a traumatic memory of one young person, a girl (with possibly undiagnosed ASPD), from 13 years ago.

Feel nausea and want to throw up every time thinking about that kind of places, dynamics, emotions.

Men? Wait, yall aren't dogs using the internet while the humans are away at work?

Yall are dogs to right?

It's a video

E2EE doesn't mean that the developer/company can't be a member of the "ends" in "End-to-end encryption". WhatsApp is closed-source, so nobody can really confirm which E2EE algorithm is at play. However, considering that the E2EE is the implementation of a known E2EE algorithm, such algorithms often support more than two keys (hence, more than two people), so, a third-key from Charlie can be part of the conversation, unbeknownst to Alice and Bob. If Meta would inject their own key inside every WhatsApp conversation, they could effectively read things.

For example: GPG/PGP support multiple public keys, so the same encrypted message can be decrypted by any private keys belonging to those public keys. Alice can send a message to both Bob, Charlie and Douglas, collectively specifying their public keys at the moment of the encryption. Then, the exact same payload would be sent to them, and they would use their own private keys to decrypt the message.

So, let's suppose that a closed-source messaging app company/developer had their own pair of public and private keys, and they public key is injected in every conversation made through their app. They'd also obfuscate it from the UI so the UI won't show the hardcoded "third-party". This way they could easily read every single message being exchanged through their app. It's like TSA with a "master key" that can open everyone's travelling bags, no matter where you bought the travelling bag.

Even Signal may have this. Yeah, libsignal is "open-source", but the app isn't. What if their app had some hardcoded public key from Signal team? The only trustworthy E2EE is encoding it yourself using OpenPGP and similar. And if one is more privacy-worried than me, there are projects such as the "Tinfoil Chat" which is almost-immune to eavesdropping, involving optocoupled (hence, airgapped) circuitry, separate machines for networking, decryption and encryption, Onion-routing, and so on.

In summary: nobody should trust out-of-the-box E2EE, especially those hidden within a closed-source app.

This still baffles me. What's Facebook's end game here? They are built on data collection and spying, but they own an app that is E2EE.

It might be that I’m looking at this from a US perspective. Craig’s list has been a bit rough when I’ve tried it. Scammy and shadier people. I hope you’ve had better experiences here than me.

I found cash converters out of the UK. Is that correct? It seemed comparable to a pawn shop at first glance.

RCS ain't universal. I only have it with some iPhone users and the rare Pixel.

If it's what's for dinner, I don't care. Musk can know I had some hamburger steak.

If it's the code to your tablet, mom, ask on Signal.

I WISH signal was ubiquitous. Half of my friends are still using Facebook Messenger so I still have to resort to using SMS for them

Weird that this is your association as using it would require an iPhone which most youth don't have. My thought was Telegram, which is omnipresent at least around me, with Whatsapp often being kept just for the parents or older relatives.

Also in South Asia and the Middle East.

Craigslist eventually got rid of personals, give it a decade

Proper analysis.

People really underestimate the state corpo connections when looking at their own regime and domestic corpos. Since these are "our" guys

It's a delicate topic. TikTok collects a ton of data from devices and infers a ton of data from watching patterns. This is really true of most of the modern web apps, but especially true of TikTok because the short-form means more content to churn through, and the algorithm is practically an IV drip of dopamine.

The much, much more important issues are user privacy and truth-in-media, and is something that just as well needs to be pointed at Meta and Twitter and Reddit and Google. TikTok is probably more critical at the present moment, because it's run by a country our president-elect wants to start a trade-war with, and they've got quite an upper hand with all the data that we, the users, give them for free, via a propaganda machine under their control.