Third time's the charm?
I'm at a point where I think he's more useful alive than dead. I feel like he's ALREADY going to lose 2024. I'm a little baffled that it's even a close race at all, but I'm still confident that between the debate, and the Taylor Swift endorsement he's dug his own grave. And with that, it means he lost 2020 election, and the 2024 election. Would the GOP really endorse a 2X loser in 2028?
I think him being alive forces them to support their own self made loser. And now even fox news is calling him a loser.
He likes to say things like "they're laughing at us!"
No. They're laughing at YOU trump. You are a laughing stock. Not the country. Not the democrats. Not anybody else but you. You are a loser, soon to be a two time loser, with two impeachments and 34 convictions. Nobody in American history loses bigger than you donald trump.
Alive he can go down in ignominy and we can move past him. Dead, he would be a martyr and would never leave America's conscience.
I was a toddler when Nixon went down, but I heard what my parents had to say and combined that with what I've learned of history. Nixon was very popular, but once he went down he was like Voldemort, the one who shall not be named.
Do you mean, "would they do something incredibly stupid because Donny insisted?" Yes, yes they would.
I'm just glad this fucker is old. Could you imagine if we had to put up with this shit for 20 more years?
He's done regardless after this run.
Hopefully. I said the same thing back in 2020, figured he'd be dead by now
And hopefully this Vance guy doesn't stick around, either, because he would be a pain in the ass for 20 years.
Majority Leader Chuck Schumer said in a statement, "There is no place in this country for political violence of any kind."
Unless it is against the people, minorities, poor countries, or whistleblowers.
All violence is political violence.
Heck, in the US I'd almost say all politics is political violence. It seems that anytime you advocate for nonviolence here you're called naive at best, murdered at worst. Plus, our whole society was built in blood.
And religion is politics or a form of control also.
I guess there is a place for violence in Gaza then.
But inciting violence politically is, judging by recent events, absolutely fine.
*As long as it's Donald Trump inciting aforementioned violence
*And as long as it's violence on his former VP and the members of the Senate who will bend a knee to him no matter what
Or natives
Two back to back like this? My tin foil hat money is that Loomer is angling to get Trump to divorce Melania then elope with her. Eric Jr knows that his dad will do it and is terrified of getting cut out of the will once Loomer gets her hooks in Trumps dementia riddled ass, so he’s hiring people to kill his dad before the inheritance can get fucked with. I can’t come up with any other reason we’ve had such poor assassination attempts so quickly like this. The bumbling foolishness has Jr fingerprints all over it.
Now that's a conspiracy theory! Way better than the ludicrous-yet-unimaginative shit the MAGAs come up with.
it is unclear just how much trump is angry at ivanka and jared for allegedly narcing on them.
But pretty sure even eric and don jr know they are getting dick all. He openly loathes them and it might be his only redeeming quality.
Nah. It is just the nature of being the party of gun nuts while openly failing almost all of their purity tests. We actually saw similar (just to a much lesser degree) when trump said something like "I love vaccines" and was boo'd like crazy.
He is a symptom of the rot. Not the source. And by and large he just tries to ride it as best he can.
I mean you’re right. It’s just my tin foil hat conspiracy, definitely not something I think is anywhere in the realm of actual possibility.
Yeah but their aim was even worse than the other idiot. These nutjobs need to get their shit together; I've been successfully assassinated in political video games for a fraction of what the Orange Idiot's done to real people.
Did the guy even fire shots? From what I heard he was just in the area and carrying a firearm.
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/16/nx-s1-5113917/trump-apparent-assassination-attempt-shooting-suspect
It seems like the only shots that were fired were from the secret service.
How convenient when he's slipping in the polls and had a pretty bad week last week...
How. Convenient.
I refuse to believe a person who otherwise wouldn't vote for Trump will vote for Trump because he was shot at.
I think someone who has been on the verge of converting to Trumpism would vote for him because he was shot at, but nobody that disliked him is gonna start liking him more
I think it's to rule the news cycle, like that conspiracy loony etc. Anything to make forget about the crazily bad debate he did.
Not saying he invented this "heard gunshots" himself, but that is how it's useful.
I don’t think the campaigns are about converting people, but more about getting people to care about voting for their candidate. At this point there is just no way people still don’t prefer one candidate over the other
You'd be surprised, I know I was. Just like how there are still undecided voters
That's two legitimate assassination attempts in a very short period of time, I wonder what effect that would have on someone's state of mind?
Right after his first assasination, there was a thread where someone said "If that happened to someone else, they'd probably have PTSD".
And I said "What makes you think he DOESN'T have PTSD after a bullet that was 100% intentionally fired at him, with the intention to kill him, narrowly missed because he just so happened to turn his head inches away from the path by total accident?"
The general consensus was that trump can't have ptsd because he's a bad person who ruins others lives.
And thats total bullshit. Not the part about him being a bad person, and ruining others lives. Thats still true. He IS a piece of shit who seperated families from their children, leaving them to bake, and sometimes die in metal boxes without water.
The part thats bullshit is the idea that bad people can't get ptsd because they're bad people. I fully believe trump had/has ptsd, and this will only reignite it further.
I hope he doesn't become president. Harris is the best case scenario in every case except one. I fully believe that if trump becomes president, he's going to make a much harder push for gun reform simply because for him personally it's literally a life or death situation.
If he becomes president, I would not be surprised if he tries to end gun ownership being legal.
That being said, I don't expect that plan to come to fruition. I fully expect it to fail because it would be a legal and logistical nightmare. But my point is on this one issue he would actually try. Whereas it's not going to be a major issue for Harris.
Harris will have many issues she's trying to address, while trump, once again, will only thinking of himself. It just so happens that his one issue just so happens to benefit everyone. Not by design, but as a biproduct.
That being said, it's FAR more important for Harris to win. Many issues are more important than one.
The general consensus was that trump can't have ptsd because he's a bad person who ruins others lives.
There's a lot of people on Lemmy, particularly in the politics and world news communities, that I would go out of my way to avoid in real life. They seem to forget that people they don't like are human, and say some absolutely vile things as a result.
A particularly bad example was when the Titan submersible was lost, there were some downright ghoulish comments made after that happened.
Hopefully he has a massive stroke.
I'm worried it would fuck his mind so bad he'd start making sense /s
Unclear how legit they are. Don't rush judgment, especially when the victim and his associates are narcissistic liars.
Or rather, define "legitimate". It matters in a situation like this.
So I guess you could say the response was... swift
no fkn way.. he got shot at again???
Nah somebody nearby had a gun and the FBI I think shot at that guy. AFAIK nobody actually got shot and they arrested gun dude on the highway later.
Edit - sorry for bad link, still don’t think i can do relative post links. https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/27862700
Secret service shot at guy, guy had scoped AK and a GoPro when they shot at him apparently. Now I’m wondering if there was a 4chan post recently.
A Secret Service agent spotted a rifle barrel sticking out of fence and “engaged” with the suspect, Palm Beach County Sheriff Ric Bradshaw said at a news conference late Sunday afternoon. The gunman was 300 to 500 yards away from Trump, a Secret Service official said. Law enforcement found an AK-47 style rifle, GoPro and backpacks where the suspect was positioned, Bradshaw said.
https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/trump-harris-election-09-15-24/index.html
Have you met the dude? I'm not at all that the sexist, racist buffoon that repeated a dumb story about pets being eaten rather than asking a question is being shot at. He is a failure in every way.
Second attempt just doesn't hit the same
No no, the attempt was to hit theother ear. Symmetry.
Swifties don’t play.
I mean, if you have participated in the plane discourse, you've probably learned that Swifties stop at nothing.
Don't. Fuck. With. Swift.
That was just a warning.
J/K, IDK 😛
Just proves your everyday john doe doesnt know how to use that shiny new ak47 he just bought. Strike two as of now
Somewhere Howard Dean is wondering how the fuck he was too unhinged to be electable in the face of daily insanity from the orange.
This post is how I found out about this 2nd attempt.
Man, Taylor Swift responded with bullets!
