Look and see if your state has at home Burial services. If they do tell them you want to bury the body at home and you do not want it embalmed. Then buy an absolute fuck ton of Dermestid beetles online. Then, get ready for the horrid smell as they eat the flesh off of your father's rotting corpse over the course of a year or more.
I guess I'm gonna have to talk to my apartment's landlord first.
It's better to ask for forgiveness than for permission.
Imagine a neighbor who’s annoying dog barks in their yard sometimes.
Now imagine a neighbor who’s fathers’s rotting corpse is slowly being eaten by beetles over the course of a year or more.
If you bury the body first it should take away a good chunk of the smell but you have to bury it in like a mesh cage almost so the bones and stuff can't be slowly moved over time by the beetles.
I'll take the corpse
When I read this, I was curious how possible it would be, if there's sufficient supply in the market... I found this vendor page. So, there would probably be enough supply as there are taxidermists who need to clean big game skulls, which require thousands of larva and adults, and the vendor say you should email them if you need more than 10'000. I couldn't learn how much time it would take, but they do say that more = faster, and to communicate with them to fit your project timeline.
It's actually the exact opposite to what he says. In the US you can do almost anything you want with human remains, while in Europe it's much more restricted. In Denmark for example, you have to have the body/ashes buried in a licensed cemetery. You can't keep the ashes yourself, you can't bury them in your backyard, you can't spread them at some random special place (except for the sea in rare circumstances).
Also... what awesome displays? Does he think knight armour in museums has bones inside it?
There are quite a few places in Europe decorated with bones and even on display corpses.
For instance: https://www.slate.com/blogs/atlas_obscura/2014/10/01/the_catacombs_of_capuchin_monastery_in_palermo_sicily.html
Ever seen a church made out of bones in America?
Only thing coming to mind is the catacombs in Paris and stuff like that.
The reason for restrictions in Denmark is to protect our clean ground water. If people could just place dead corpses or ashes everywhere, the drinking water would be polluted with heavy metals and other chemicals.
Pretty sure this is legal, they just wouldn't release an unembalmed corpse for health reasons.
Wouldn't OP just have to find a qualified mortician willing to do the work?
You can absolutely get the corpse unembalmed but you won't find any mortician willing to do this. You can do it yourself with a ton of Dermestid beetles, though, but it's gonna smell awful.
There's gotta be a service that does this, though.
With some searching around, I found this place in Oklahoma: https://skullcleaning.com/
They mainly deal with hunting trophies but their price list covers almost every vertebrate animal you could think of: https://skullcleaning.com/services/skull-cleaning-pricelist/
"Human" is conspicuously absent, of course, but then you go to the "Skeletal Articulation" page and the first photo is of a fucking Centaur lmfao: https://skullcleaning.com/services/skeleton-articulation/
I feel like if you called up and asked, you at leastwouldn't get a hard "no". I'd bet good money that they've done work on human cadavers before.
Apparently there's no federal law (in the US) banning the ownership of human bones because up until the mid to late 20th century it was apparently common practice for med students to purchase real human bones for their studies. Most of them apparently came from India, until the country banned the export of human remains, which must have played a part in causing the practice to fall out of style.
If anyone has anything to correct/add, please do so. This was just a quick google search out of morbid curiosity
I know the POTC ride had a bunch of real skulls (and a few are still there) because, at the time, they were cheaper and easier to get then good looking fakes.
there was apparently one amusement park ride that ended up getting its hands on a literal corpse of a human, only to be discovered when one of the arms broke off while someone was moving it.
apparently, the corpse in particular, was that of a notorious criminal who nobody really liked, so some fuckwit decided it would be funny to preserve his body and put it up for exhibition. And then it just kinda, continued from there, until it was discovered.
It's only 1 still inside the ride. I can't remember if it was always only one but it's the skull on the crossbones above the throne towards the end of the ride.
The reason India stopped that is because they realized they were exporting way too many human skeletons and way too many child skeletons in that, so they eventually realized that this meant there were mass murders involved. India to this day has problems with that but it's become better.
Here's an interview of a guy who went underground to familiarize himself with the problem and even talked to a bunch of people involved. It's a great video :)
My highschool biology classroom had the skeleton of an indian tween in a closet. It had been professionally skeletonized and rigged up and everything. The bio teacher swore it was there when he started teaching and that he doesnt know anything about it...
He also had a human fetus preserved in a jar of formaldehyde.
It's true. My aunt had the skeleton of a person, probably from India, for use when she was in medical school in the '80s. She took him on the bus with her in a bigass suitcase I guess. They talked about it as if it wasn't fucked up.
they can keep the meat
I just want the skeleton
Peak autismo mode
What if I put it in my will that I want my skeleton turned into a kick ass statue in a WH40K style marine suit?
What would be the point? Space marine armor is fully enclosed, nobody would see the skeleton anyway.
It's not for them, it's for my skeleton.
Akshully, a significant portion of them prefers to fight without a helmet where possible, for various reasons such as chapter culture or certain gene seed variants. The primarchs are also often depicted without helmets, but considering the lore is essentially imperial propaganda it might make sense to depict them that way for PR reasons.
.....how would a coroner go about removing a skeleton without destroying the body? I'm pretty sure this is nowhere in a coroner job description. I'd tell him the same thing.
So what you're saying is that Anon just asked the wrong person.
You just need a straw and some patience.
You Can’t Keep Your Parents’ Skulls [Caitlin Doughty | September 4, 2019 | theatlantic.com]
Under U.S. law, it’s nearly impossible to get permission to decapitate and de-flesh a relative’s remains.
Abuse-of-corpse laws exist for a reason. They protect people’s bodies from being mistreated (ahem, necrophilia). They also prevent a corpse from being snatched from the morgue and used for research or public exhibition without the dead person’s consent. History is littered with such violations. Medical professionals have stolen corpses and even dug up fresh graves to get bodies for dissection and research. Then there are cases like that of Julia Pastrana, a 19th-century Mexican woman with a condition called hypertrichosis, which caused hair to grow all over her face and body. After she died, her husband saw that there was money to be made by displaying Pastrana in freak shows, so he took her embalmed and taxidermied corpse on world tour. Pastrana had ceased to be regarded as human; her corpse had become a possession.
So where do skulls on bookcases come from? In the United States, no federal law prevents owning, buying, or selling human remains, unless the remains are Native American. Otherwise, whether you’re able to sell or own human remains is decided by each individual state. At least 38 states have laws that should prevent the sale of human remains, but in reality the laws are vague, confusing, and enforced at random. In one seven-month period in 2012–13, 454 human skulls were listed on eBay, with an average opening bid of just under $650 (eBay subsequently banned the practice).
If there were any legal wiggle room that might allow a person to get Dad’s head liberated from its fleshy shell, Tanya Marsh would know how to find it. Marsh is a law professor and the expert on human-remains law. “I will argue with you all day long,” she told me, “that it isn’t legal in any state in the United States to reduce a human head to a skull.”^[[1] https://archive.ph/SE19g]
Literally 1984
I love her, it's a dam shame youtube fucked her channel.
“that it isn’t legal in any state in the United States to reduce a human head to a skull.”
what a funny fucking statement.
The implication of course being that natural decay of human remains is technically, illegal.
I want my funeral to be a roast (comedic) but my fiancee said no :\
a roast
Oh!(comedic)
Oh.What were you planning to do with that fork and knife moody?
So your fiancée has already planned your funeral...
Nope. Chuck Testa!
Old ass meme but it checks out
"On a good day?"
Your height varies a surprising amount as your spinal column compresses - this seems to be more pronounced in tall people (not sure why - we don't have extra vertebrae).
As an example, measure your height in the morning and before you go to bed.
Gravity is a cruel mistress
im gonna force (post mortem) whatever morgue that has to deal with my body upon death to rip all my teeth out so i can send them to my friends.
I've got worse ideas. Apparently there's a company or was, idk if it's still around that would preserve tats from the skin of the now longer alive individual. I'm really tempted to get a tattoo of a dashed grid on my back, with numbered squares (2x2inches per square for example) just so i can tell people that when i die it's going to be removed, segmented, preserved, and then sent to people that knew me.
i would describe it is realist more than anything. People subscribe to things that are meaningless more often than not.
ah yes a classic
Going to have to update my will
My little brother likes to say he's going to have us all taxidermied and put on roller skates so we'll be with him forever.
Shove my corpse on a random desert hillside and study its decomposition ... hyper-specific because there's actually a study like so, but yeah, anything that isn't claimed by patients/doctors who need it, I want set out for sky "burial".
Now I think about it, I think I read that study wants entire corpses. Now I'm sad.
I think this is one of those societal level conspiracies
I like by taking life, in death I want to give life. It's legal, it's ethical. Unless I die from a bacterial disease or nasty virus, I find it ghoulish and cruel to be cremated or pumped full of preservatives - let me return to the earth. Feed me to birds, bury me under a tree, i don't care - I just want to feed life as I fed upon it
It's legal, it's ethical, and if I died tomorrow I'm sure my frequently expressed wishes would be ignored
You're "homeschooling" !
I am pretty sure it is becoming legal to get composted some places. Then you wait and disinter the giant bastard, free yard skeleton
Yeah everyone knows in Europe there's just skeletons everyone's gardens. It's considered pretty common over here and not at all weird or strange.
Are you implying the fellow in this green text might not be the most ..normal person?
