Popular Israeli podcasters call to ‘erase every living being’ in Gaza and West Bank
Popular Israeli podcasters call to ‘erase every living being’ in Gaza and West Bank
Naor Meningher and Eytan Weinstein say the Israeli government should 'instil sovereignty over and annex the West Bank, Gaza… make it all Israel'
In an episode of Two Nice Jewish Boys, which aired three weeks ago, host Weinstein said: “If you gave me a button to just erase Gaza, every single living being in Gaza would no longer be living tomorrow. I would press it in a second.”
He claimed that “most Israelis” would do the same.
Meningher added that they would also want to wipe out Palestinians in “the territories”.
The clip of Weinstein and Meningher lauding the idea of all five million Palestinians in the Gaza Strip and West Bank being wiped out has drawn fierce criticism online.
“Radio Rwanda in full effect here. This is deeply disturbing,” journalist Samira Mohyedeen wrote on X, referring to the broadcasts that incited genocide against the Tutsis during the 1994 Rwandan genocide.
Maybe all Israelis need to visit Dachau or Auschwitz to remember how being actively erased isn’t a good thing. How quickly it’s forgotten.
Ya this was my exact thought, this is Nazism, pretty much the definition of it.
Israel is in dire need of denazification.
Or the Warsaw ghetto... you know... a segregated part of a country bring reduced to ruin with technological superior weaponry, due to a people resisting the oppressive regime of a racist state.
A few months ago I started using Google Translate to read what Israelis are saying amongst each other in their mainstream publications and forums.
My. God. Levels of entitlement and racism that would make a Klansman blush.
Sure, a lot of them want a cease-fire to get the hostages back ... and most don't like Netanyahu ... but the average Israeli Zionist is a racist monster.
You have to remember that the people who post comments on news articles are not average. Look at any English news site article and its full of the most bottom of the barrel idiots. The majority of people don't comment on things like this.
I'm not referring to powerless, mouth-breathing, NEETs who normally lurk forums.
But I'm referring to comments from actual members of the Israeli Knesset, public statements from people like the OP, printed editorials in mainstream publications, and modern Israeli celebrities.
When you read through the translations not meant for western audiences - the racism pops out disturbingly. It's such a part of their culture that they don't even notice it as such. Zionists really don't view people in the West Bank or Gaza as humans.
It's a good thing to keep in mind but it's a different culture, right now they can't decide if torture and rape of prisoners is okay.
Even republicans don't have the gall to say such shit out loud. Usually.
You have to remember that their religion teaches them that non-jewish humans are, well, 'not that important'
To put it mildly
Religion is a monstrous evil.
The vast majority of Jewish people in the world realize this is wrong and ignore this part of their ancient teachings. Don’t go shaming the whole religion over some violent extremists.
Israel was also secular when it was founded. Look it up. This is 100% on their government and right wing extremists and not Judiasm as a whole.
Don’t forget a good chunk of those Israelis are also American.
We’re not sending our best.
As best I can tell, the most racist zionists are usually American-born Israelis.
This is quite disturbing, thank you for sharing. I forget that the localised cultural medias on both sides is likely the greater measure of reality but not within most people's awareness.
If a Palestinian said that, they will be immediately branded a terrorist AND get called an Antisemite™ and zionist then walk the street crying about how tough their life are and they just wanna exists.
And in all honesty Palestinian people actually have a reason to hate Israel/Zionest. I'm not excusing any violence by anyone, but for example if you asked a Jewish Polish person during the holocaust if they hated Germany/Nazies, no one wouldn take their response as a reason to continue the holocaust. Ask any person who's demographic is being ethnicly cleansed what they think about their oppressors, and you'll always get the same response.
We know how this ends when the world (mainly the USA) turns a blind eye. Time after time, the world has shown to be deeply blind to genicide against brown people. If the roles were reversed we would have stopped the killing/war already.
Edit: Grammar
Many Palestinians have said that about Israelis. Do you want links?
What about-ism doesn’t make it right for either side. The point is most western countries refuse to publicly call out this kind of racism when it comes from Israel for fear of being painted as antisemitic. Conversely, it’s easy for those same countries to ignore genocide in Gaza and the West Bank, and highlight atrocities committed by Hamas as terrorism.
Are you saying the oppressed have no right to have negative thoughts and beliefs towards their oppressors? Really the whole of none wester and none northern would like a word with you. Let me ask you something. Would a Jewish person that lived in occupied Poland during the holocaust be chastised for hating German Nazies? Like I'm not excusing violence of any kind but why are the Palestinians being held to a higher standard than the ones with all the power to do mass harm to innocent people? October 7th was a inhumane tragedy! But an October 7th worth of pain, death and tragedy happens to Palestinians over the course of a few months even before Oct 7th. Where is your condemnation of the Zionest people doing those horrific actions? Like wtf. I feel like we are living in Bizarro world!
Are you saying there are none to very few Palestinians who publicly push the idea of killing all Israelis?
Are you saying the oppressed have no right to have negative thoughts and beliefs towards their oppressors? Really the whole of none wester and none northern would like a word with you. Let me ask you something. Would a Jewish person that lived in occupied Poland during the holocaust be chastised for hating German Nazies? Like I'm not excusing violence of any kind but why are the Palestinians being held to a higher standard than the ones with all the power to do mass harm to innocent people? October 7th was a inhumane tragedy! But an October 7th worth of pain, death and tragedy happens to Palestinians over the course of a few months even before Oct 7th. Where is your condemnation of the Zionest people doing those horrific actions? Like wtf. I feel like we are living in Bizarro world!
They also said (different episode I think) that while they're enjoying their lives (e.g. at a concert), knowing that Palestinians are suffering makes it better. Can you imagine being that much of an evil cunt?
Clip is in this video: https://youtu.be/j_uOJAKbGpg?si=ojFCDchAJw_B7Anb
Lifelong indoctrination with minimal critical education or dissenting ideals can be a hell of a drug.
Yeah these guys are not going to heaven.
Well that’s fucked.
Two Nice Jewish Boys
Very nice people. They should be proud.
They are some proud boys.
They are just saying the quiet part out loud. This is what zionest and the Christian right want. But there is no magical button to make 5 million people go away. So it's bombs and starvation as their buttons to push. How many times do they have to tell us why they are doing obviously genicidal acts before we do something?
Until they discover smallpox blankets
They’re already letting a polio outbreak happen.
Polio. That disease most of the world got rid of through modern hygine and vaccines. They’ve bombed them back to the 1500’s. It’s disgusting.
Any man calling himself a boy is a douche
Yikes. Incredibly disgusting.
wow, would you be ok to boil them and make soap as well? or make random medical experiments on them maybe?
Funny, if you'd do this in my country you'd get into trouble. But Israeli genocide is so hot right now it seems.
At this point I vote we forcibly remove EVERYBODY from the entirety of Israel and Palestine. If they can't share it nicely, nobody should get to have it.
The 27 ton Tsar Bomba buried under Jerusalem:
👉👈
They said remove, not murder. Realistically it would never work without creating huge problems for all involved, but I'm sure they were mostly joking.
Like " no body gets to play with the ball if you can't share nicely" .. not, murder the kids.
Edit: this is about clarifying someone's word, not my view.... You can't just move everyone lol
There is only one button Israel is pressing
I guess getting genocided makes it more likely to commit one yourself.
Maybe Palestinians will be the genocidal cunts in the year 2104 if this pattern holds. Weird to think about.
Don't confuse Israelis with all Jews, especially not with the ones that got genocided.
Never forget that actual Holocaust Survivors have been deemed antisemitic by Israelis for comparing some of the actions of Israel with those of the Nazis.
More broadly only a handful of people who were directly affected by the Holocaust still live, of which only a fraction in Israel, none of which are the ones doing this (if only because they're too old) or in Government. In fact the majority of the families in Israel were never affected by the Holocaust even indirectly because most come from elsewhere than Western Europe, a large fraction of whom from Russia.
There is no such thing as a "Jewish Hive Mind" (or whatever the magical thing that would be necessary for every member of the Jewish Religion to share the actual trauma lived by some) which means that the vast majority of these murdering ethno-Fascist psychopaths have no real relation to the Holocaust other than sharing a religious affiliation with the biggest group of victims of it, a distant and entirely "in paper only" link.
So it's not at all surprising that people who have never actually experienced the trauma of being victimized in that way but grew up immersed in the kind of racist indoctrination that tells them they're part of a "chosen people" and hence inherently special themselves, unlike other people, especially the ones being oppressed in their name who they are told are "violent" and even "human animals", would do such a thing to those other people: in fact the surprise is how long it took the rest of us to discover how much of it they were already doing and discover the true depth of their depravity.
If we remove the outside resistance, no, just as likely simply because of being of genocidal species.
If we don't, then being genocided yourself and becoming treated specially because of that does, yes.
First, because of being treated specially. Second, because of those likely to commit genocide supporting you to minimize their PR expenses, and thus your friends and allies being genocidal.
Israel's allies are like US and Germany, which, BTW, has made such notable apologetic actions and reparations only in case of the Holocaust, - they haven't done anything except the official apology in case of Herero genocide, and their stance on the Armenian genocide was just recognizing it without criminalizing denial, and with very little attention to German Empire's role in organizing it (basically German military advisors in the Ottoman Empire were involved in this as much as they were in actual warfare).
I don't think I need to say anything about US, even the political status of Native Americans in the US could be something better.
But Israel is also friendly with Turkey - Israel has the PR advantage of being a genocide survivor nation, and Turkey has a resources and strategic position advantage of unpunished genocide perpetrator nation. One needs the resources help, another needs the PR help. They satisfy each other's needs, and really a lot of basic goods in Israel are actually produced in Turkey. Even some military stuff.
Strangely enough it's the same with Germany - they are clutching at every opportunity to publicly support Israel, and wave that support against anything bad they do. "We are friendlier with Israel than you" is their indulgence against anything.
This is, of course, solvable in the balancing way - Israel's Holocaust PR should be universally shunned and condemned, their agent network investigated, exposed and controlled, and their military kicked out of Palestine, and Turkey should be kicked out with carpet bombings out of Western Armenia, Pontus, Assyria and Cilicia. It takes resources, like everything else. But the reward is huge for those of us not making money on suffering.
The problem is the psychopatic way geopolitics work currently. Peaceful West Asia, less corrupt\poor Latin America, less uneducated\poor sub-Saharan Africa could make our whole world far richer and pleasant to live in. But it would definitely change all the elites and ways of existence of currently powerful countries.
He claimed that “most Israelis” would do the same.
Completely believable
"Everyone's saying it. All the best people are saying it."
Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
Jetblue responded quick.
"Feeling genocidey, might delete later."
Someone will unironically post this as though that's not what every member of Hamas means when they say "from the River to the Sea."
Yes, this guy is an asshole. Yes, there are assholes in every political group. Yes, there are podcasters in YOUR country calling for genocide of some group.
The slogan From the River to the Sea is about Palestinian liberation that started in the 60s by the PLO for a democratic secular state, not Genocide. The Syrian leader Hafez al-Assad in 1966 maybe, but he's not Palestinian.
Palestinians have a right to resist occupation and colonialism.
"Yeah these guys are calling for literal Genocide, but that's what "from the river to the sea means!"
What an incredibly weird whataboutism and wild claim to make without evidence.
Meningher has done actual media for Netanyahu's campaigns.
How does anything Hamas are doing have any bearing on this guy openly broadcasting his genocidal fantasy?
Those that use the phrase definitely know what they're saying and how they're saying it. I could think of any other number of ways to convey a message of "liberation" without such loaded language, but this is a choice to use that phrase.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_the_river_to_the_sea
Al Qaeda
Among the materials recovered by American forces during the killing of al-Qaeda founder Osama bin Laden was a speech addressed to the American people, in which bin Laden proposed economic and security guarantees in exchange for a "roadmap that returns the Palestine land to us, all of it, from the sea to the river, it is an Islamic land not subject to being traded or granted to any party."
Hezbollah
On September 27, 2008, Hezbollah secretary-general Hassan Nasrallah stated at a rally "Palestine, from the sea to the river is the property of Arabs and Palestinians and no one has the right to give up even a single grain of earth or one stone, because every grain of the land is holy. The entire land must be returned to its rightful owners."
Iran
Iranian president Ebrahim Raisi, in 2023, used the phrase, saying "The only solution is a Palestinian state from the river to the sea", meaning that the only solution to the conflict would be a Palestinian state encompassing all of Israel and the Palestinian territories.
I’m not a fan of anti Israel posts. Just like I’m not a fan of anti Palestine posts. Can we keep this propaganda off Lemmy? I think most Lemmy users are pretty left leaning and we don’t need hate posts every single day about it.
Not to mention all this is doing is adding viewers to these guys. I didn’t know who they were until this post and I can guarantee they gained a few new viewers from this. Better to leave them in obscurity.
Nah, I think it's important for people to see the kind of attitudes that cause a genocide, as that's what's happening right now. We shouldn't be turning a blind eye to it while we're funding and supplying it. Especially if you live in the West, Israel's biggest backers, it's important to acknowledge it so we can fight against it. That's kind of what "never again" means and requires.
I am all for journalists doing their job and reporting on facts. This is not that.
This is basically a puff piece to generate hate against Israel. You are assuming the general public has common sense. Do you think in Nazi Germany didn’t have anti nazi propaganda? All that type of journalism does is gather the dregs of society and let’s them believe there is a place in this world for hate. When we give credence to these people, whether negative or positive, we give them power. As I mentioned all this article does is generate viewership for fascists.
Yeah lets tone police the genocide.
No it’s important to talk about this AND keep the pressure up on our politicians to stop arming Israel to try and force them to stop. If you don’t like it, don’t read it.
Yes 100%. However these guys are not associated with the US so calling then out doesn’t do anything. Just another circle jerk for anti Israel Lemmy users.
Also there’s a million real articles about the genocide. We don’t need this stupid article about 2 nobodies who have a podcast.
If you want to see less anti israel posts just block people or instances posting them.
There is nothing wrong with calling out Nazis. It is duty to speak up against Genocide.
As for the anti-Palestine posts, those don't do very well on Lemmy anymore.
You are completely missing the point. This article is not journalism. There’s plenty of news article based on fact that represent what Israel is actually doing. This is an opinion piece and does nothing but generate views for fascists. You are literally HELPING them. They are profiting off of this article.