We're bombing schools now? That's worrying

I'd spray it, save the babies, and then continue being atheist.

I wasn't magically transformed into an atheist so I'm not terribly concerned about being magically transformed back.

109, HBe02 - why does this feel like a coded message, like the 14-88 shit the Nazis use?

HBeO2

That doesn't appear to be a thing. Maybe as an intermediate state of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryllium_oxide? or https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beryllium_hydroxide?
- It probably means something in Christianese, and I'm sure the oddly specific number choice of 109 means something too. You can never take anything they say at face value.
- HBeO2
  
  HeebO2
  
  Hebrew
  
  ???
  
  Gdism what the hell is this crap?
Apparently "109" can be used as an antisemitic symbol: https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/109110
- Thanks!
I kinda wonder if that's what the can of coolant spray you use in MGS2 says on it. The context is similar and I can imagine this scenario was imagined by a kid who was inspired by a video game.

It's impossible to lose something I don't have. Belief in atheism makes no sense whatsoever as a concept.

My atheism is LACK OF BELIEF in made up fairy tales... so sure. Can't lose something that isn't held.

I've noticed the growing perception over the last decade or so that atheism some weird belief system or religion of its own. I've heard them say "the religion of science" more than once which is just a complete misunderstanding of what science is.

Some people just genuinely can't conceive of someone not believing in a creator, it has to be understood through the lens of faith for them.
- It's trying to drag it down to their level to legitimize belief.
  
  Take for example a panel with a priest, a rabbi, and a mullah. They can debate faith and mysticism all day and night because they are playing by the same rules.
  
  Introduce an atheist or scientist who says "I don't know, and more importantly, neither do you". It shatters their LARP experience.
  
  By turning science and atheism into just another mystic belief system it makes theirs seem just another valid option between equals.
  
  Don't let people make this false equivalence, faith and mysticism starts with "This is what I believe, and reality has to conform", where science starts with "Reality exists, and what I believe will change and be shaped by our understanding of it."
- I believe in orders of magnitude.
  
  I believe in I don't know everything.
  
  I know that higher powers are constructs of men.

Is atheism a belief though? I’m not sure. Is it a belief when a person might be an atheist based on a lack of verifiable evidence to the former?

I guess? I mean, it’s no more or less a belief than nihilism or agnosticism.

What would that mean for the question? Could I select agnosticism? Would I be appointed a random religion? OOOOH, would I take the Christianity from all the babies, leaving them as atheists?!? I’d totally do that. Take one for the team.

Ok, but hear me out! If there were a bunch of atheists and a Christian was gonna kill them as non-believers, would your christ-loving ass even care?

I feel like even asking the question kind of hints that no, they wouldn't save the babies (if the spray made them lose their belief in God).

Hey Christians, why would your God allow such a thing to happen in the first place?

Because he’s also ok with mass shooting, child rape, war, disease, famine, and the Ice Capades.

I'm not sure babies CAN be christian. Isn't a central tenant of the whole thing that you CHOOSE god by having faith? A case could be made for a 13 or 14 year old, but a baby can't really consent to something on that scale. I remember being told once that babies too young to decide automatically go to heaven, so........... Why are they against abortion?

It's almost like there's no logic at all.

It sort of feels like whoever wrote this thinks christianity and atheism are like ethnic groups and they are at war with each other.
- Also that atheists need to be believed in? This person is nuts.
Then why baptize babies? I'm pretty sure this is a difference in doctrine between denominations.
They get baptized at birth to save them from limbo. I think the free will bit doesn’t count until you’re able to have one.

I haven't eaten enough crayons to be able to fully understand that...

Sure. Not sure what would replace it and not sure why they think their particular religion would fill that void, but yeah, obviously, because I'm not a piece of shit.

Would the Christian do it to save all those babies? I think they're asking the question because the answer is "no."

That is correct. Back when I was in a catholic school we were taught that you should never give up your faith and be converted for any reason. Standing strong in your faith and suffering for it makes you a martyr and you automatically go to heaven. I wasn't smart enough at the time to ask how it would work if you sacrificed others tho

So you're telling me some magic spray will save babies? Why does everything have to start with a fairytale in your world?

At the point where magic existing is a requirement for the scenario anyway, i might as well be believing in god, i guess.

It's an interesting question at face value, if you unload it.

Would you give up your core beliefs (or lack thereof) that determine your worldview to save the lives of 100 children?

Assuming I'd be left with a blank slate... Probably. It was a lot of fun going on the journey that built the worldview I have now. I'd do it again with a fresh perspective.

Having it replaced by whoever crafted the "trial?" Fuck off. You guys apparently like to threaten children to guilt people into converting to your club. That's some cult shit.

They did the mental gymnastics to craft this scenario and a magic spray that defuses bombs and eliminates a person's agency for belief. How much more of a leap is it that this "atheist bomb" is only a threat to these babies' belief in Christianity?

I mean, I say some stupid nonsense when I'm high as fuck, but I don't put it online... Usually. Don't check my comment history.

I would safe the babies. My belief in atheism is so strong that I believe I would find back to it. Always. Via logic and reason!

I imagine OOP was asked "Would you kill your own child if you thought it was divine mandate" mere minutes before posting this

Atheism is a lack of belief...

0 fucks given - 0 fucks given = 0 fucks to give

Saving some babies is a net positive.

Lose what faith ? Also would you do it if the roles are reversed as you actually have faith to lose ?

So how do you lose the belief in atheism.

You become god

can somebody please explain what argument they're trying to make here

The implication is that belief in non-belief is more important than Christian babies...I believe.

So if i spray a weird can of chemicals i end up with brain damage because i inhale it, and then start believing in a man in the sky... 🤔

Wait, if I spray the can and lose my atheism, does that mean I no longer get to eat the Christian babies?

yes