Prepare for the 14year Olds on hexbear to come in and pretend that China has a great government
You know, that actually makes sense. 14-year-olds. It would explain a lot about hexbears.
Just got banned from Hexbear for saying something negative about China and the US at the same time. They have no tolerance of any discussion that challenges their preconceptions.
My feed got a lot less irritating when I blocked posts from CyberGhost.
imagine lemmy if we could user-level defederate lemmygrad & hexbear
paradise
It's coming, likely in the next Lemmy update.
On sync for Lemmy you can block instances by putting it in it's filter list.
Or simply choose a instance that defederates fascists and authoritarian loving dipsshits. Never had a problem here with far right or tankie content.
The connect app allows you to block instances. Not the same as defeding obviously, but it helps.
Tankies forget that Trotsky existed.
Tankies forget that anything that isn't stalinism is also considered socialist
So many hexbear users here lmao
This has made my Lemmy experience considerably better
How do you do instance-based filtering (other than starting your own instance and defederating)? This is something I’ve been looking for.
Holy shit. Too bad instances can't defederate HB. They seem to not understand that they're tankies.
As they get banned from more instances, the instances they are not banned at start seeing a higher concentration of them.
Man this comment section is a treat.
could use some sort by controversial ability right now
Don't even need it, upvotes aren't frequent enough here to sort out the good from the bad.
Seems like all shit opinions come from chuds on lemmygrad
I wonder why
I really wonder if they're CCP sympathizers using VPNs to bypass the Great Firewall, just to bitch about "Western Authoritarianism" lmao.
No they're just idiots
*authoritarian, not fascist. There is a difference.
*authoritarian, not fascist. There is a difference.
When authoritarians are in power long enough, whatever ideology the revolution the previous generation had gets replaced by an emphasis of simply maintaining power through whatever means necessary. And fascism is the easiest way to accomplish that.
We can debate over whether Mao was really socialist or whatever, but he's dead it doesn't much matter now. The CCP today is accepting of billionaires, capitalism is legal, labour unions are illegal, the leadership is misogynistic, oppressive towards minorities, promotes the "century of humiliation" narrative. Oh and people live in fear of another Tienanmen Square style massacre. Whatever China was in the past, it's fascist today.
And Russia? WTF are leftist (or so they claim) weirdos going on about there? The Soviet Union collapsed and was replaced with a capitalist democracy which became fascist under Putin's regime.
There's this weird thing where so-called leftists think that if some kind of socialism existed on a patch of earth then they need to carry water whatever fascist that's ruling over that patch of earth today.
Ah yes, the tyranny of small differences. Let us tear each other apart over this trifling distinction.
Fact; fascism falls under the larger umbrella of authoritarianism.
The problem is that people throw around "fascism" like my 70 year old mom uses the word "communism." She couldn't even define the actual meaning of communism let alone her use of the word.
In the common internet usage fascism just means "anything authoritarian and to the right of where I stand." It also has the issue of making people think that the problem is with left versus right politics when authoritarianism can and has existed everywhere in the political spectrum in history.
What did the original say? I haven’t seen it
Probably some tankie shit
You're probably missing out on a free headache by not seeing it
Because so much tankie shit is so frustrating I get a headache
Link to the original meme?
This is the way
How did i end up in memecirclejerk?
Alas, poor Vuranitute! I knew him, Horatio (before the tankies bombarded him with their "well, ackchuyually")
I agree. Fascist countries like Denmark, Germany and Canada often get called "socialist" and they have been disastrous for the reputation of socialism.
You are certainly American but that's especially stupid, is it a troll?
I think its sarcasm
Would you like more resources or is this enough?
https://www.businessinsider.com/denmark-strict-immigration-policies-ghetto-neighborhoods-2018-7
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/03/16/denmarks-mismatched-treatment-syrian-and-ukrainian-refugees
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/18/germany-afd-polls-krah/
Of course /s. Germany, with Fuhrer Schultz, Denmark with Grand Admiral Frederiksen (I had to look it up lmao), and Canada with Supreme Commander Trudeau. All of them are actively involved in passing legislation against socialists and Muslims. All of them are involved in gathering Muslims into re-education camps. When socialists protested their respective governments for starting to become capitalist, they were run over by tanks. Also, all of these governments prevent their citizens from accessing the internet outside their own countries. Agreed! Very fascist indeed!
Would you like more resources or is this enough?
https://www.businessinsider.com/denmark-strict-immigration-policies-ghetto-neighborhoods-2018-7
https://www.hrw.org/news/2022/03/16/denmarks-mismatched-treatment-syrian-and-ukrainian-refugees
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/18/germany-afd-polls-krah/
oh no the tankies be tanking
I'm not the one telling others they "don't know shit" on a meme sub.
-Country: Elects socialist leader.
-America: Disrupts country to dispose leader.
-Success: Country no longer Socialist.
-Failure: Strongman comes to power to resist. Resists disruption, becomes dictator. Country no longer Socialist.Nothing more ‘socialist’ than supporting the current world order but with some welfare
Lemmygrad user detected
Opinion discarded
Why is memes of all places political, amma head out
this meme is over a month old, how did you even find it
another American who doesn't understand sociadism
Lemmy users: yes socialism is good
Everyone else points to a country where it failed
Lemmy users: that wasn't real socialism
you're right ;)
Yeah, I lived in Venezuela for 30 years, experienced the democratic Republic and the authoritarian regime of Chavez/Maduro
You forgot "I wonder why fuel prices are sky rocketing even though we voted a president that promised to fight fossil fuels for climate bullshit"
Enjoy! I'll be here laughing.
Fascism.
I'm confused, are you saying he's using it wrong?
Here's a copy paste from Webster.
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition
Replace the word race with party and you've got an incomplete yes, but not necessarily inaccurate description of Stalins USSR.
Seriously not trying to just be a troll or shill here, so if you feel I'm wrong please let me know how and why. I am legitimately, in good faith, curious about the perspectives of some communist here. It is an ideology I am somewhat interested in.
I'm sure a lot of people will chime in, I just want to add this short vid with Domenico Losurdo.Here.
Until you understand what socialism is?
Anyone that learns what socialism really means and then thinks it is a bad thing must be selfish and self centered. There is no alternative, you either don’t get it or you believe society should continue to hold “certain people” down for the uplifting of “us”
I'm a socialist/communist btw
My big issue with socialism is more about the implementation. I'm not sure there is a way of enforcing socialism that isn't antithetical to the goal of socialism- a more even distribution of power (which we quantify as wealth in a capitalist society).
In general, I don't think there are any stable economic systems that don't decay into feudalism when abused. At least for the economic systems we've come up with so far. The best one I know of is the gift economy, but that requires people to not expect something in return, because otherwise it could be reduced down to capitalism.
In short, all the economic systems so far, despite their best intentions, reinforce inequality.
Socialism is based on public ownership of means of production. In order to shift to socialism in foreseeable future and in the past, it requires forceful removal of private property and converting it into public, since I can not imagine that all people would do this voluntarily (and they did not do that voluntarily historically). So, yes, you require forceful state, a dictatorship. Soviets openly called that “dictatorship of the working class” when they were nationalizing means of production. That included by the way farmers who used seasonally hired labour. They fought to destroy those farms and farmers were treated as enemy to socialism. Ukrainian Holodomor that killed millions of people is a good example of such fight.
So, before blank-calling other people self-centered and selfish, maybe you should learn a bit more about socialism and its history?
