I actually know one family doctor who is really, really smart. He took care of my family, and he has always been on point with his advice.
Three years from now (edit:) ago, he started spewing bullshit about vaccines. It was really disappointing.
My point is, some people (including thia doctor) are very susceptible to social media brainwashing. I'm not justifying them, but I can see how they became doctors long, long, long ago when we were not constantly online.
If there's one thing working in insurance taught me it's that you just never know. You can be talking to the smartest person in the world with five degrees etc and they just got into an accident watching Bluey while driving lol. People are gonna people and intelligence does NOT equal common sense/rational thought.
Had the COVID shot, had side effects (flu symptoms), "researched" online. Next time we saw her, she had opinions on Hunter Biden and thinks Russia is justified in invading Ukraine. Don't really want to talk with them any more. You end up tiptoeing around things so as not to activate the Fox news programming.
She's not even American. This shit is more infectious than any virus. You don't even have to leave home to catch it.
"I know I spent a decade or more of my life in post-grad, spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, attended hundreds of hours of lectures, but this blog with a .blogspot.com domain just convinced me that vaccines can ionize your body"
Woo boy, a couple years ago I got a vasectomy. I didn't know the doctor, I'm not at an age that one typically sees a urologist. This otherwise seemingly intelligent and congenial medical professional starts making small talk about how much bullshit the COVID vaccine is WITH MY NUTS IN HIS HANDS. I just nodded and grunted noncommittally until I could rush out of that office. Bright side is his work has held up at least!
Being smart in one subject doesn't mean anything else. I have meet some interesting characters in engineering. One I worked with only drank fluoride removed water and every day wolfed down a king size candy bar. Which according to him was okay since it is sugar and sugar is natural. His teeth were as you expect. Also had like 8 patents.
Yes unfortunately intelligence does not seem to be a protective factor against media illiteracy. That is also not something that is focused on in medical education too much, and definitely wasn't being emphasized by small schools in the 80s (which is when this Ohio person went to school).
All vaccines or just the new mRNA ones? I feel like it would be easy to mistrust them at first because of the rapidity they came to market (if iring previous mRNA research), and maybe the media played on that.
If it's all vaccines that's just absolutely retarded for a doctor to fall victim to. Who wants polio back? He should have had extensive training on the older vaccines.
she is the author of four books opposing vaccination
Tenpenny promotes anti-vaccination videos sold by Ty and Charlene Bollinger and receives a commission whenever her referrals result in a sale, a practice known as affiliate marketing.
If you look at her website, the front page is mostly selling her books and various snake oil treatments, like "heavy metal detox" substances. looks further And what appears to be faith healing stuff.
Getting a medical degree doesn't mean that you can't be a scam artist.
In a June 2021 report on the Disinformation Dozen, titled "Pandemic Profiteers," the CCDH estimated that Tenpenny earned up to $353,925 from a single webinar titled "How Covid-19 Injections Can Make You Sick ... Even Kill You."
This income is on top of sales from Tenpenny's pre-recorded training courses, her line of supplements, as well as her fees for appearing in multiple vaccine-injury cases. And each webinar produces more customers.
"My job is to teach the 400 of you in the class … so each one of you go out and teach 1,000," she told her $623-a-head "Mastering Vaccine Info Boot Camp" in March, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation reported.
She was not a doctor of real medicine. She was a "doctor of osteopathic medicine" which is a pseudo science bullshit degree. Even if they are not nutjobs, at best they are a massage therapist not someone who studied human biology and medicine.
At first, I thought that revoking her license on procedural grounds, rather than addressing the nonsense she was spewing, was a cowardly decision. After some thought, I realized that the board probably did the right thing. They are using this opportunity to reinforce the board’s authority, which is essential. They’re also giving themselves a second chance to revoke her license on professional grounds, in case she fights the procedural decision in court and somehow wins.
Also, I wonder how the Ohio Advocates for Medical Freedom feel about a woman’s right to choose? I can only guess, but this “nonpartisan” group provides a handy election guide which endorses every Republican and absolutely no Democrats. That might be a clue. I bet they don’t even see the hypocrisy of using the words “Medical Freedom “, because they don’t acknowledge that abortion is health care.
My background: I'm a medical student (MD school), in a combined MD/PhD program. I've completed my PhD and am in the last year of the MD.
I think you might be confusing DO's with chiropractors. Most DO's go through the same licensing exams and residencies as MDs. Some of the other comments are true that MD schools can be more difficult to get in to, but this has to do with their performance in undergraduate education. By the end of their respective programs, MDs and DOs are usually competing for the same residency programs using the same board exams.
Although, medical doctors are also known to be severely lacking in skepticism and understanding of the scientific method (much like engineers), so depending on the doctor you talked to, they might actually believe it.
Source: anecdotal, but I've spent my entire adult life in higher ed chemistry departments taking classes with and then teaching premeds, and it's a real thing. Med school does nothing to alleviate this, being focused as it is on basically troubleshooting a single particularly complicated and poorly designed machine.
Edit: here are a few studies that corroborate my experience, although they're far from comprehensive ( Source 1 and Source 2)
As most med schools it's the same program, maybe a few different classes. From a courtroom perspective, there is no difference and their opinions carry equal weight; residency and specialized training after med school is what counts.
I think you are thinking of a chiropractor. DO's are legitimately the same as an MD in practice. My experience working in an office with two MDs and two DOs was the DOs tend to be more personable, and the MDs feel more book smart. But they both see the same patients and do the same job in the same office.
And keep in mind my experience was just with 4 total people, so it could be just that office.
'Sherri Tenpenny, an osteopathic doctor who says she’s been researching for 21 years vaccine adverse events, testified before a legislative committee this week that people can stick keys, spoons and forks to their foreheads after getting the coronavirus vaccine possibly because they've been magnetized.'
Yeah keys are brass or nickel and brass. Both are non-ferrous.
It is irrelevant, but some (not all) of my keys here in Germany are magnetic. I know because I have a magnet board for my keys to hang on. That being said, she's fucking crazy. It's a simple test that you can disprove... and if this was true, oh God what MRI machine would do to someone. If they were so strongly magnetic that things could stuck to the, they would be torn apart.
Was going to get an MRI on my brain, but was worried about the steel clip that was used for my vasectomy. The tech said, "Just let us know if you feel anything tingle once you get in the room." I literally walked into the room with both hands firmly on my junk, knowing full well that it wouldn't change anything.
Long story short, the metal clips they use are non-ferrous. :)
The medical community needs to come down harder on these people, if you ask me. It's not a free speech matter when junk science is being proliferated and causing people's deaths, and there should be professional and legal consequences for people who do this.
I imagine that in Sherri Threepenny's claimed world, it'd be kind of like magnet fishing -- you'd wind up covered in metal shavings and little pieces of metal picked up as you traveled through your daily environment.
I was hoping that getting the vaccine would let me shoot Jewish Space Lasers out of my eyes, but all the vaccine did for me was make me ruin my credit cards every time I try to swipe them! 😕
I disagree, Sheri Tenpenny has been among the most damaging voices in the antivax arena since it began. This is a relevant as Andrew Wakefield losing his license. Her claims are used worldwide by the anti Vax, covid denying nut jobs.
Just because it happened in Ohio doesn't mean it is limited to Ohio.
I have no idea who Andrew Wakefield is, I honestly think making news articles about these people is just giving them more of a platform, and something to point at and be like "SEE THEY ARE OUT TO GET ME!! IM THE VICTIM".
Dumb anti vaxxers are everywhere but I doubt an antivaxxer in Bangladesh knows who these people are. Also the whole anti vax thing died out after restrictions were relaxed and it's barely important news hearing more of this bullshit we've heard about for years when it's less relevant than ever.
While we always have to do the science, mRNA vaccines basically come off as the most minimally invasive and likely the safest way to formulate any vaccine that can work like this.
My feeling is that there just has not been enough education about how such a vaccine actually works.