The Tesla protests are getting bigger — and rowdier
The Tesla protests are getting bigger — and rowdier
Tech is always fallible.
Look at that taxpayer money protecting all that private property of an oligarchy who is shitting on the working folk.
Cute little regime they got going for themselves
Something that isn’t reported enough is that Elon borrowed heavily against his ownership of Tesla to buy Twitter. It is thought that at around $100 a share he will be margin called which will mean that Elon will have to pay the loan back in cash immediately which will bankrupt him completely and enact the rage of his handlers the Saudis and Putin as they are the ones who drummed up support for the deal in the first place by holding a majority of the non-institutional debt.
Sorry to be that guy but can you give any sources for this? I would love this to be true and want to tell my friends but yeah a source would be nice...
I want to believe...
Russia does not give a single fuck about their assets getting burned. It happens all the time. It's part of their playbook to make their assets more and more bold.
They got more than their moneys worth in the form of the US crashing and burning like it is now.
This sounds really interesting but I lack the necessary economics background to understand it. Instead of having to research for potentially hours, do you mind please dumbing it down a little for me? The parts I don't understand are "borrow against an ownership", "holding non-institutional debt". You don't have to of course
The same way your mortgage is backed up by your house. If you default on your mortgage, the bank can take your house in foreclosure.
Rather than sell shares to raise the money, Musk has backed his borrowing with Tesla shares. Basically, if he doesn't pay back the loan, the banks get the shares. Unlike houses, shares can change value quite quickly. If the value of the loan exceeds the value of the shares, then the banks start to get VERY nervous. They will call in the loans to get what they can, before things get worse. This could crash the share price further, since they will want to offload the shares as soon as possible.
Musk is extremely rich. However, like most extremely rick people, his money is tied up in shares. If Tesla falls fast enough, he could end up owing more than he has in assets. As soon as his creditors pull the plug, he becomes bankrupt.
I really doubt that somebody will margin call one of the most powerful men in the world who is in control of the president of the United States.
That hinges entirely on whomever holds the loan.
If it was one person, then no way. But it's not just 1 person, it's more than 100.
There are investment groups in that list, and ties to the Saudis and Russians.
The investment groups might be legally required to margin call if the stock price falls too far, but none of them will hold the full loan.
Normally I would agree with you but with how hard the current US administration is pushing Tesla sales I think they are legitimately concerned / there is an actual chance this could happen: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/elon-musk/trump-musk-tesla-white-house-showroom-buys-car-rcna195905
You don't buy a Tesla? Believe it or not, straight to jail. No trial no nothing.
Jail? Black van, troyka, firing squad.
I think Musk is a red herring for the Trump administration to divert attention away from Trump. Keep the eye on the ball. If there was no Trump Elon wouldn't have this power.
I don't agree.
These fascists are all following the political ideology and strategies laid out by Curtis Yarvin under the pseudonym Mencius Moldbug. He's been in the orbit of people like Peter Thiel for 10+ years and has been very influential among the tech oligarch crowd.
His vision centers around creating a tech-oriented monarchy for America. At the top would be the president who would operate more like the Chairman of the Board in a corporate structure. Rather than governing on a day-to-day basis, this President/King would appoint a CEO to oversee the actual management of government. That's the role Musk has taken on.
Trump appoints Musk to do the actual running of the country to accomplish what Trump wants accomplished while letting Trump seem above the fray (at least that's the intention, Trump is too incompetent to actually stay above the fray). Musk isn't a red herring. He's not diverting from anything. He's just the guy doing the job so Trump can go golf all day.
The republicans have been obsessed with privatizing the world for ages
I think he's an easy target, and whether you think he's culpable or not, he's very visible, and taking him down in every possible way is a good thing.
Kind of, but not really. It's more like Musk is doing Trump's dirty work for him so that when the shit hits the fan, he gets the blame instead of Trump.
I think we're saying rhe same thing. Musk will be the fall guy for Trumps incompetence.
It’s worse than that. Trump is a figure head, Elon is ceo and Peter Theil and his ghouls are board of trustees. Butterfly revolution, Curtis yarvin. State as a company.
and a Boston man was arrested for slapping stickers of Musk making a Nazi-like salute on Tesla vehicles
Better have him taken out back and shot, right? 🙄
Ironic that he referenced Carnegie. Carnegie and Rockefeller were so terrified of the public that Rockefeller refused to leave his mansion for years at a time, and Carnegie fled to England, where he publicly supported Unions, but privately told Frick to squash the strikers. That blew up in his face, and he had to capitulate to all the demands the workers had.
So... what about SpaceX?
It's way harder to find a spaceX dealership to torch
Also hard to torch something that's already burst into a million pieces. HEY-YO!
There is a small, but not completely minute, chance that SpaceX employees may be on this.
These people have a brain, and are only in the company to gain experience. Who knows, maybe one or two engines may get damaged in the process.
If those guys are supposed to be in uniform - no two are dressed the same. One guy didn't tie his shoes, another's jacket doesn't fit. It is very sloppy and unprofessional looking.
I burst out laughing at "heavy police presence", those guys look heavy alright.
I can't even get passed how gross it is to see this many cops standing in front of a business where there is no visible evidence of violent activity where people might be harmed. It just looks like a statement saying this is our priority - corporate welfare for the Uber rich and worst possible human specimens at the cost of taxpayer dollars. It's so gross I can't even work my way to the nuances of how these slobs are dressed.
There’s a reason people say officers are class traitors. Policing has never been about protecting the public; It has always been about suppressing the masses and protecting the elite.
It’s what policing is for. It’s never been about protecting people but businesses
JFC, since at least that demented shit Reagan, corporate welfare for the Uber rich and suppression of workers rights have been American domestic policy. And since the early 20th century it’s been a goal of the GOP. Arguably, corporate welfare and worker suppression have been founding principles of the US.
Fits in perfectly with the Tesla brand then, doesn't it.
Idk how many truth there is to this, but I saw someone else mention that they are off-duty and hired by Tesla to just stand there in uniform
It's more likely to be out of work security guards in their police cosplay.
I think that's an overkill approach to convince us to not buy a Tesla.
It's no longer about convincing people to stop buying a Tesla, it is now about destruction.Everyone knew this is where it would lead.
We shouldn't make people scared for owning a Tesla, just embarrassed.
i'm gonna lean on the side of "fuck that shit" on this one. buying a tesla is a choice. maga are terrorizing people for things they didn't choose like skin color, gender, sexual orientation, etc, and that list will only get longer
fuck tesla, and fuck tesla buyers. unlike their holy godman idol musk, i value empathy. but not for people who pridefully show none of it themselves
A lot of regular Tesla owners genuinely didn't know a ton about the company and until the last few years Musk wasn't quite so openly a Nazi.
I have zero sympathy for Cybertruck owners but I am going to wait to reserve judgement on average Tesla owners until I have proof it was bought recently and that they are okay with Musk as he is.
The reality is some people can't just up and trade in the car as easily as they might want to, even if they hate Musk and all he stands for now.
For many of us we've had our vehicles for a long time before Elon went dipshit crazy. For some it's because EVs were essentially dogshit before the Model 3 was introduced. Either short range grocery getters or expensive luxury. Even now most "electrified" vehicles everyone advertises are hybrids, not EVs.
I got my Model 3 near the end of 2018. Elon wasn't posting far right and Nazi shit at that time. He was sort of controversial, but that was about it.
There's tesla buyers who dont even know who musk is or what he does/owns. I dont know who owns BMW, Ford, Volkswagen etc. People could easily decide to buy a tesla and not know.
And using hate to fight hate isn't always the best, these maga fucks will just use it as fuel for their regime, embarassing them is a much better way, stickers etc sure, but you shouldnt be physically violent to the person.
I like em scared. We don’t shun enough.
Yeah just like thousands of civil servants are "embarrased" of losing their jobs. Just like judges are "embarrased" that the executive branch is ignoring their rulings. Just like millions of Ukrainians are "embarrased" of losing their home. Get over your fucking self... we are at war.
*swasticar
I saw my first tesla a few weeks ago. I was walking in a target parking lot, and it passed by me to get to the other end of the parking lot, which is a strip mall.
I felt it was my civic duty to go laugh at what I THOUGHT was going to be a 50 year old white guy with a red hat. I was going to go walk up to him, point, and laugh. Calling him a pussy free loser for driving that car.
I was not prepared for what happened next. I see the car circling around, like it can't find a spot, even though 90% of the strip mall was empty. Finally, he pulls up right next to the spot I was standing near. I was like "ooooooh, here we go!"
Door opens on the passenger, and 3 little Asian kids get out. Followed by an Asian woman in her 30s. Then the driver side opens. And a blind Asian man gets out.
Now what the fuck am I supposed to do??? I'm still trying to figure out if/how he was driving. I'm not saying being blind is a coverall for shitty behavior like driving a tesla......but I just couldn't bring myself to call a blind guy a pussy free loser in front of his wife and kids.
NONE of it makes sense. And I feel dumber for having experienced my first tesla.
Seriously though, does ANYONE have any context for how a blind man with seeing stick can drive a car? It's been driving me crazy, because I know what I saw......I just can't explain what I saw.
Uh, OK.
NOt entirely blind so a stick helps with curbs and stuff, similar to how there are people who can walk,, technically, but benefit from a mobility device.
No one took away his license when they should have, and full self driving helps him appear to function
It's almost as if regular people buy cars that fit their lifestyle and not their politics or something.
