So the cartels, who profit directly from the high demand of drugs by Americans, were given weapons, by Americans, to meet that demand of drugs. They then essentially hijacked the mexican government with those guns and violence in order to keep their drug supply available to Americans, meanwhile destroying hope for peaceful life for many many towns and people in mexico. But it's the Mexicans trying to escape those problems, once again created by demand in the US, who are the problem?
How very fucking American.
You know who doesn't have a fentanyl problem? Mexico. They're not the ones creating demand.
I'm simplifying, I know, but I'm very fucking tired of Mexicans and South Americans being blamed as if the US hadn't fucked the entire country and almost the entire South American continent over for the last 50 years.
I know I'm probably preaching to the choir here but fuck man I'm just tired.
The exact plan is to make everyone too tired to understand they're being played against each other.
The average American lives nearly identical lives and has nearly identical axioms, wants and feelings as the average Mexican, the average South American, the average Canadian, etc. The only real differences are superficial and aesthetic, and if we all woke up with amnesia tomorrow, and the borders were erased from maps, we would probably all just intermix and form a whole new world as we discover each other's foods, customs, ideas and desires without being afraid of "losing our cultures" or any of the manufactured fears the powers have instilled in us about the "other."
You do know that US intelligence agencies and military have been heavily involved in organizing the global drug trade, including smuggling drugs like Heroin and Cocaine into the US?
It has always been a tool of power. This is why Reagans wife told kids to "just say no to drugs" in a concerned voice, while her Husband organized tonnes and tonnes of Cocaine to be smuggled into the US to finance a fascist terrorist organization overthrowing democratically elected governments and killing tens of thousands of civilians. Oh and he used part of the profits to sell weapons into a war zone against US legislation and explicit decision of congress, so more brown people are being murdered.
Further fun fact, Mexican Cartels ended up with military assault rifles from the German manufacturer Heckler&Koch, circumventing export bans. So it is not just the US that likes to join in on it.
and when Mexico tried to stop the flow of arms, the courts stepped into keep it going.
https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-judge-tosses-much-mexicos-lawsuit-against-us-gun-makers-2024-08-07/
Because screenshots of what someone said on social media aren't journalism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firearms_regulation_in_Mexico
Mexico has restrictive laws regarding gun possession. There are only two stores in the entire country, DCAM near the capital, and OTCA, in Apodaca, Nuevo León. It also takes months of paperwork to have a chance at purchasing one legally.
So you’re saying it’s easier to get a gun in Mexico than a RTX 5000 GPU in the US
Go to the US, buy a gun at a gun show, put it in your trunk and drive back. Done in 1 day. Holy shit
Wrong. I don't know why Jay Hulme feels the need to lie but there is more than one gun store in Mexico.
A quick look at Wikipedia clearly shows that there are actually two gun stores.
Something like 85% of guns used in crimes in Canada are smuggled from the US
Sounds to me like someone should build a barrier of some sort to keep all those undesirables from the south out of their country.
Yeah and not just guns that are smuggled abroad from the US. Most illegal guns in Europe come from former wars, stolen out of abandoned and badly secured depots. The balkans, Iraq and Afghanistan. And once the war in Ukraine is over many unused weapons will flow into the European criminal circuit.
The entire Military Industrial Complex is making the world more dangerous even during peace time.
They do get many from straw purchases here, which is already illegal can get you 10+yr in federal prison.
But also they get a fuckton of full auto guns that are illegal here from the mexican military's corrupt members, and other sources like china, somehow they get explosives too including south korean grenades have been found which is wild, and the best is Operation Fast & Furious, where the ATF just directly sold them a bunch of AKs "to track" and then surprise! "lost" them. They get em from multiple sources.
Too fast, too furious...
https://www.cnn.com/2013/08/27/world/americas/operation-fast-and-furious-fast-facts/index.html
The craziest thing cartels buying guns in America and smuggling them into Mexico isnt that the US government was selling to people they thought were smugglers.
It's that the people at the gun store are doing the same shit people are doing all over the place.
The used gun market is insane, I know a couple people that constantly buy new guns and sell them less than a year later. They don't question why some person is willing to buy $200 over new price for a used gun.
And the way the law is structured, that's in their best interest.
If a random person walks up and asks to buy a gun, you don't have to ask any other questions as a "private seller" and since you can only get in trouble if you know that person can't own a gun, the less questions the better.
The "private sale" loophole makes every other gun law just a slight hassle to get around. But no one wants to actually close it.
Edit:
It also incentives those sales.
No gun store will pay as much as someone who can't buy from a gun store.
So to make sure someone ends up with that can legally have it, the seller loses money.
Buckle up because guess what, George W Bush implemented the gun smuggling into Mexico with a plan called "Fast and Furious"
I'm glad this got linked. It's definitely the gun version of "you're not fighting the predator by buying more cats... you're just feeding it cats."
We had to arm the drugs in the War on Drugs to make it a real fight.
Not sure if I'd really use the troubles as a defense against the proliferation of personal ownership of firearms........
Kinda hard to claim you've been "radicalized" by denying other radicalized individuals the ability to fight off a oppressive foreign government with a long history of genocidal tyranny against your entire ethnicity.
... most of witch regimes were set up and funded (weapons too) by the USA or Russia. Usually they were terrorist groups before forming a formal government. And the problem being that the status quo is usually the most profitable and politically beneficial (gives the mentioned colonisers more direct power over the de fuckto marionette countries).
Most places, if not all places there's a war, there are American weapons. Remember all the people coming after the American soldiers in Black Hawk Down, well they used American weapons.
Smuggled? The DEA was shipping them direct at one point.
Not literally shipping them, but setting up a sting that never stung. Ironically to stop the flow of illegal guns.
What a quaint scandal compared to what we see on an hourly basis these days.
I love America (maybe less now than in 2023, but still), but one of our great failings has been to ignore Eisenhower when he warned America about the military industrial complex. Most of my generation blames American imperialism on Big Oil, but I think the real roots lie in the MIC.
And ignored Carter when he said we need to turn the heat down and put on sweaters otherwise we will have to make allies with nations that aren't democratic. Just before he became VP Dick Cheney gave a speech to Halliburton execs saying essentially Caryer was right and now we have to back despots.
Why need more gun store when the biggest gun store in the world is right above you? 🤷🏻♂️
Damn that gravity causing trickle down egunomy.
USA is an arms dealer cosplaying as a country.
the USA is a corporation with a military
Maybe per city? I know there's one single gun shop where I live but not for the entire country? Lol
Are there most likely small illegal shops? Absolutely. But he is correct. There is only one single legal firearms store in mexico city and is run by the military
There are two in the whole country. Finding that odd shows a very Americanized view where gun are ubiquitous instead of controlled which is the exact point of this article.
Reminder that as of 2025, the US is the only country with more privately owned guns than people, at 120.5 guns per 100 people... The 2nd highest is the Falkland Islands at 62.1 guns per 100 people.
lol git gud Falkland Islands
But, seriously, that's not great.
Do the Falklands count as a country? I'm not sure what the situation is there.
Also, New Zealand is pretty high up on the list.
Yesn't. They are self-governing but that's very limited. Most of the important stuff (foreign relations, defense, ...) is handled by the UK.
They're self-governing, which I guess is enough.
Accuracy of this post aside, would anyone be surprised if many of the cartel leaders are on a cia payroll?
I am not alleging that to be any truth, but i would digest that information like a weather report claiming rain when you’re still soaking wet from having been outside.
You hardly have to speculate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor
Condor was formally created in November 1975, when Chilean dictator Augusto Pinochet's spy chief, Manuel Contreras, invited 50 intelligence officers from Chile, Uruguay, Argentina, Paraguay, Bolivia, and Brazil to the Army War Academy in Santiago, Chile. The operation ended with the fall of the Argentine junta in 1983.
...
In 1980, Regional Security Officer James Blystone had met with an Argentine Intelligence Source. In the declassified memo, Blystone had asked about the disappearance for two Montoneros that had plans to travel from Mexico to Brazil to meet with other Montoneros. The Argentine Intelligence Source had explained that they had been taken and interrogated, and later contacted their Mexican and Brazilian counterparts for approval to conduct an operation to capture the other Montoneros that were expecting their arrival. Once they were under custody, they had utilized fake documents to check into their hotel to impersonate their presence and not alert any other Montoneros of their capture. They were imprisoned at Campo de Mayo
The Mexican Connection of the Iran Contra Affair
In what newspapers here are calling ''the Mexican connection'' to the Iran-contra affair, the Mexican political establishment and its right-wing opposition are trading charges that each has maintained improper contacts with American organizations supplying aid to anti-Sandinista forces in Nicaragua.
Critics of the opposition National Action Party accused the party of treason after it was disclosed last month that a prominent party member met several times in Washington last year with Carl R. (Spitz) Channell, director of the National Endowment for the Preservation of Liberty.
Mr. Channell recently pleaded guilty to conspiracy to defraud the American Government by raising tax-deductible contributions for a purpose that was not deductible: buying arms for the contras. He was an associate of Lieut. Col. Oliver L. North, who developed the contra arms supply network while working for President Reagan's National Security Council.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9rida_Initiative
Some examples of Mexico's paramilitary abuses at the time included the sexual assault and rape of dozens of female detainees by police in San Salvador Atenco, and the disappearances of dozens of teachers in the state of Oaxaca in 2006, as well as the killings of seven innocent bystanders, including the American journalist Brad Will by off-duty policemen. Almost half of Mexican police officers examined in 2008 failed background and security tests, a figure that rose to nearly 9 of 10 policemen in the border state of Baja California
Also fun: Operation Fast and Furious
They almost certainly are to some extent. That being said no cartel works for the CIA. The CIA isn’t nearly as good at espionage as some think.
At this point in history, yes.
I would be surprised if they weren't on the CIA payroll.
It's by design.
A lot of effort went into it and it's a lot of effort to maintain such systems. You need PR along with movie studios, politicians on local, country, and global levels, lobbyists, para-gov agencies (like police unions), judges, etc. It's a business full of people that do what they can to advance it.The last thing the working classes of the world needs is for the owner class to have a monopoly on violence.
Which is solved by ... cartels? Private gun ownership? Terrorist/freedom-fighter groups?
Warlords have monopolies on violence and even that is through terror, not actual power.
The working class is just always so much larger than the ruling class (if it weren't, there wouldn't be an inequality problem to begin with).
It's just wrong to think that USA only supports righteous freedom fighters.
Restrictive gun laws, but live in North America? Just hop on over to the Ugunted Guns of Agundica and get as many as you want!
What?
Although there are no gunshops similar to the US, where you could go and buy a pistol, revolver, rifle, etc., there are still plenty of Hunting and Sporting Stores all around the country that can legally sell low caliber weapons and ammo to those with valid permit. Allowed calibers are .22, .25, .32 o .380 and .38 SPL.
Its usually a few per big city and is tend to be visited by a small group of people that usually go to shooting ranges, have ranches or belongs to a hunting/shooting club.
It's not only one store LMAO 🤣
Its common for people in rural areas to be a gun owner and rare for city dwellers to do so. Yet you can find people that inherited old guns.
Since the 90's, the Army has regular buy off campaigns to convince the people to get rid of their guns
Mexico only has one store that sells firearms, and its federally owned. I'm unsure if you can buy ammo outside of the federally controlled gun store, but I don't believe you can, and there are DEFINITELY no firearm stores in the city. There are airgun shops, but that's it. Im honestly not sure why you felt the need to comment this when its verifiably false, but my child will spread misinformation on the internet I guess
That's probably why: https://lemmy.world/comment/15055901 They're one of the few Republicans on Lemmy.
What a strange, easily disproven lie.
This is the plot of Iron Man
The international community should probably do what the US did to set the drinking age to 21, but for guns.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Minimum_Drinking_Age_Act
How about voting? Maybe that age should be higher as well?
21 years old to be religious. That sound okay?
How is that supposed to work? The international community doesn’t pay for US infrastructure.
The USA are a huge market for handguns and keep for example the European companies in business.
Wait until dude learns about the long and brutal history of colonization...
King Leopold of Belgium? Well he sounds like a jolly, friendly old fellow!
Mexico doesn’t really check vehicles coming into the country either. That’s something they could start doing. I know I’ve only been stopped one time out of maybe 20 but granted I’m not transporting a firearm.
Downvotes for the truth i guess. Obviously there’s way too many guns but if you don’t even check at the entrance then that’s definitely an area for improvement
Honestly when 2nd constitution is for the entire world, but Americans are the only ones who mansplain it across the world in different formats; ie sabatoage or coup or rebellion groups..
