SeCuRiTy aNd PerForManCe

Not defending Crapple, but in the name of fairness, some of these aren't really accurate unless you're ignoring the spirit of the complaint and being pedantic.

You can scroll right but not left with the track pad

You can scroll up, down, left, and right if you use two fingers to scroll.

The delete key doesn't do anything in the finder

You can use command + backspace to delete selected files.

The terminal uses cmd+c instead of cmd+shift+c (really should be ctrl but okay)

The rest of the OS uses command + c for copying. This is consistent.

Every app relies on an antiquated menu bar at the top which is straight out of 90s UI

This is a personal opinion. It's a valid complaint, but it's not a universal problem.

There's no way of globally enabling hidden files and folders, there's a terminal command that does it for vanilla finder windows, but none for the finder file picker windows that apps use.

Unclear if it's hardware or MacOS, but despite having the graphical horsepower to push enough pixels, Macs are limited to two external monitors unless you buy the multi thousand dollar Max processor.

It doesn't support high quality Bluetooth audio codecs like AptX.

It doesn't natively support Google cast or Miracast.

It doesn't support sub pixel text rendering so text looks like trash on 1080p LCD monitors.

I've had the fun experience recently of moving my work related dev to the company-provided laptop, and boy oh boy have I come to hate Apple quickly.

Most surprising one for me was how trash it is at scaling UI on large displays. I have a pair of 27" and the system text is tiny. Turns out if I had Apple displays things would work better and that scaling option would be available. Instead I'm stuck just switching to a lower non-native resolution, which looks like shit and feels really outdated, but at least I can read the text and use the UI properly.

Don't even get me started on how god awful finder is, windows 3.1 was nicer to use, macOS is garbage painted silver

The dock sucks when using multiple windows per app

This made me rage quit using a mac at work

Being in a similar situation as you (have to use for work), I would also add the fact that docking station support when it comes to displays is awful, almost nobody got 2 displays working with the dock and I have to plug one HDMI directly into the Mac. Then there is the fact that it's impossible to turn on the computer via the docking station button, so I had to just use sleep instead, and 40% of the times the USB peripherals get disconnected, so I can't wake it up except by unplugging and replugging the docking cable.

Besides that, I have 2 2k display and using Mac they are substantially more blurred than they are with Linux or windows.it's like if everything is bold on Mac. Apparently it has to do with some feature which got removed for non-4k monitors or something.

Thankfully we managed to get Aerospace now installed (I.e. approved), because being used to efficient i3-like window managing, using macos native window management felt like being back in bronze age. There are so many things that apple built expecting you to use the trackpad for efficient workflows... Why would I use a trackpad in a (home) office setting, when it's terrible for ergonomics, requires the laptop to be open etc...

The control+shift+c bullshit is really fucking annoying to me. Control has other uses? Great, THATS WHAT THE META KEY IS FOR.

Apple got this right and linux should allow everyone to use apple key shortcut method where every system wide shortcut is meta+key because nobody, not even clicky clacky terminal emulator uses meta+key for anything else.

You know what ctrl+shift+c does in teams? It calls the entire chat. Really simple to do when you’re switching between editing a message and copying from terminal.

MAJOR EDIT: Forgive me, I am tired. I also don't regularly use different keyboard layouts on different OSes. I need to clarify terminal shortcuts.

Control-C is how you terminate a process on terminal in macOS. I need to denote this as ^C, as such a key does not exist on traditional layouts. Cmd-C is copy. It is always copy, even on terminal (on Linux, you also have to hold shift).

If you use a Windows keyboard on macOS, your shortcut is now copy. After all, you are pressing Ctrl-C, so why wouldn't it be copy? Termination is now probably done with Alt-C.

If you're using Mac layout, none of this seems weird. I use a Mac layout on a Mac--all makes sense. If you don't, then stuff gets wack. Not a macOS issue. More of a "we've been using this layout for fifty years and changing it would be stupid at this point" sort of thing.

1. You can with extra software. See first paragraph of my original reply. Valid.
2. ..What?
3. The delete key does do something in Finder. When pressed with the Command key, it deletes the file with no prompt. I'd rather that not be a single key press. This is a preference, not an issue.
4. Mentioned already.
5. I'm sorry, this is literally user error. That's like saying Windows is stupid because it can't anticipate my "quit app" shortcut being Command + Q instead of Alt + F4. Or, for a closer comparison, like setting Ctrl + C to Meta + C instead. They're different operating systems, adapted for different keyboard layouts, and I shouldn't have to elaborate on why this is stupid.
6. Apps with multiple windows just kinda suck in general. I fullscreen everything, navigating between apps with gestures. Not quite multi-monitor, but fullscreen always behaves as expected and all gestures work, and the dock remains accessible--which I can't say for any other desktop UI in existence.
7. Preference that I personally like. Rude.
8. Hardware.
9. Absolutely true. They've insisted on a "one size fits all" volume bar for everything. It sucks. I laugh every time someone on an iPhone has volume trouble for this exact reason. Instead, you have to adjust media while it's actively playing in the foreground. How very intuitive.
10. Hardware. Granted, stupid, but still hardware. I'm pretty sure this is Apple Silicon only.
11. Just turn it off. I've never seen a benefit to having accelleration.

Not perfect, but none of this reads as annoying as a full screen advertisment telling me to upgrade to an OS that I know has incredibly invasive spyware.

EDIT: The "delete" key on macOS keyboards is backspace. The key should be treated as such. The delete key on other keyboards is in a separate location with a separate purpose, and should not be seen the same on Macs just because it shares a name. I've never used a full size keyboard on macOS, so I don't know how the forward-delete key works. If that doesn't delete files in one go, that might be annoying.. but not the other way around.

That’s iOS criticism. On MacOS, I compile software from GitHub and run it no problem.

It's not a criticism of macOS because it broadly describes all Apple hardware. Swap in "iPhone", and nothing changes. A valid point to criticise macOS is in its constant deprecation of software (such as OpenGL), or how additional software is required to match some Windows features (less true now).

This ignores that macOS is, otherwise, the best non-libre OS. Changing the default browser changes the default browser. Spotlight search is fast and versatile, making Windows' modern start menu look like a joke. Trackpad support is unmatched. Logic Pro and Final Cut remain industry leaders. Most importantly, it's usually pretty damn fast, and free of ads.

Outside of gaming, there is not a single reason to use Windows over macOS--maybe if you enjoy suffering. With Linux distros officially being a better gaming medium than Windows, at least macOS still has a use case. It's the perfect OS for people adapted to Apple's style of workflow, which I've found to be a good one. Else, you can use NixOS, or Arch, or Gentoo.. but never Windows.

The cli, kind of. But everything is 10 years outdated by default, the filesystem is not case sensitive, there are no containers, and, to rub salt into the wound, if you are on ARM MacOS only let's you run two mac VMs per physical machine, even though the hardware supports way more.

It's basically the IT equivalent to buying a professional tool from Wish or Temu.

Still, they’re about the size of SODIMMs and relatively flat.

It would be iffy for the Max I suppose.

Yeah, I don’t even know what the ostensible excuse is for their SSDs. Keeping the laptop knife thin, I guess?

Apple making a proprietary pinout for NVME is what will keep me from ever giving them money.

https://assistenciaapplebrasilia.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Apple-Propietary-SSD.png

It's not like Apple uses a different controller, or that they invented a different communication standard. They just put the same communication pins from the same controller on a different physical connector, and charge you 10x for the replacement part. It's why boards like this can work at all:

https://bartechtv.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/nvme2016macbookPRO-1-678x381.jpg

If Apple wasn't using standard NVMe controller communication protocols and controllers, these adapter boards wouldn't work at all.

I don't even know what system it was at the time, but the first time I figured out things weren't just on "computer" and were on a particular operating system and that Mac didn't do games at all, I hated them immediately. They were completely useless for my use case.

I remember when iPods got popular that I specifically didn't want one, I wanted a different mp3 player. I got one of the first Dell ones. I forget the name of it now. It was either a "jukebox" or maybe that was the software's name. It has the scroll barrel on it. Had I think 15 or 20GB on it. I was so much happier with it than I would've been with an iPod. For one I didn't need to cover my entire library to aac. And iTunes was just a nightmare on Windows in general from what I heard. There was no software needed for the Dell one. You just moved your music on like a removable hard drive. Playlists were actual separate files that were somehow associated to the songs. I never did (and still don't) really care about playlists.

I'm too millennial for that. I just play the album I wanna hear. Or nowadays if I'm too lazy or in a hurry I have an automatic playlist that knows what kinda stuff I like to listen to and just plays from that set.

You can replace just the touch bar, I’ve done it, but it’s a nightmare. Much cheaper and less waste though

That thing is seriously glued on. Like people complain about the battery adhesive but it’s not really that bad, some solvent takes it out pretty quick on most models (though it’s still not necessary and would be much better if it was just screwed into place). That touch bar though, that glue is crazy and any solvent or heat you use has to be super carefully managed because you’ll melt the keys very easily. Some tutorials have you basically just smash the shit out of it and scrape away the resulting shards but that seemed like a bad idea.

For the record I did heat from the rear and light application of acetone. Took a bit but I was able to pry it up although I did break the first couple. Doesn’t matter really but it can make it harder to prep the space for the new one.

Also fun times: on some models if the touch bar glitches out it shorts the motherboard and causes random reboots

Yeah ~2014-2015 I think is when they started really soldering everything together and adding adhesive or their new special screws to everything.

Edit: fat fingered wrong year

Linux, not sure why that's relevant though. At least even Windows can be made elastic and it isn't expensive for the sake of being expensive because Apple. So yeah, I guess I'd prefer to run Windows servers than ever run Mac for anything.

They're both about the same in terms of privacy so that's quite an irrelevant thing to bring up. Windows sucks infinitely more from an usability perspective, though.

Edit: Oh, one more thing, you don't have to do some bs hacks to use macOS without an Apple account.

Your answer is basically “MS isn’t so bad, just don’t use MS”

There's that one weirdo, the mod of linuxsucks lmao

There genuinely are