Nancy Pelosi ‘Actively Working to Tank’ AOC’s Committee Bid

Universal healthcare is not a newly proposed issue, either. Going at least as far back to FDR's administration, his Secretary of Labor (and architect of The New Deal) Frances Perkins even advocated for public healthcare.

Hey, here's a thought. You know about the guy that shot a parasite in NY? AOC could try that too. She'd need enough vocal (and armed) popular support to avoid conviction (and retaliatory assassination) and it might turn into a civil war, but it might also work.

You're... not making me say fuck the DNC any less with this comment, I hope you realize.

Part of the problem is that you literally cannot build up a third party under First Past the Post voting.

The thing is, the current most popular alternative voting system, RCV is just as bad for third parties.

RCV was first invented in the 1780s by the Marquis de Condorcet, under the name Instant Runoff. He wrote about it, mostly to highlight it's problems.

Like the fact that under IRV the majority preferred candidate can easily lose the election.

And that's the tip of the iceberg when it comes to flaws in IRV.

Thankfully it's been over 200 years since then, and better voting systems have been designed.

STAR is as close to the magical best system designed to date.

If we had STAR for all elections, plus voting day as a national holiday, we'd be in a vastly better place.

Nope, McTurtle got rich along the way. But his lifelong goal has been packing the courts.

He is literally salivating like he just walked into a salad bar at the 42 vacancies Biden is about to hand over.

Pelosi doesn't give a shit about the Dem platform or helping people. She wants America to stay in the early 90s, that used to be enough to be considered somewhat progressive.

But the early 90s were 30 years ago. Imagine calling someone in the early 90s progressive because they wanted America to go back to pre civil rights movement.

That's the same time frame.

The right move was forming a serious left third party decades ago. We'd have a right, center, and left party and nothing would get done without some compromise between the wings, likely leading to a more fluid party structure.

We'd never see this shit where a handful of republican extremists sabotage everything no matter who has the majority.

Be the change you want to see then. Make the viable third party that isn't just a Russian troll op.

That's what they would have said about Obama in 2004 if anyone knew his name back then...

AOC could, should, and hopefully will run

Why would she lose?

The normies would project whatever fantasy they want onto her, and she's hot so it could be positive delusions.

She's a real feisty one who's only willing to go so far into being "corporate." With the inevitable loss of Bernie, she will become the most recognized face of progressives in Congress. Her sharp tongue and wit, combined with an excellent ability to get her points made succinctly would serve her well in any attempt to run. She's more lively and personable than Harris ever was.

I'd say she has an excellent shot at the White House if she so chooses.

Do tell. Which dull advocate for an untenable status quo should we run instead?

Conventional logic also said Trump would loose but here we are.

Or organize locally outside the Democratic Party and field your own candidates, unless the Dems come up with one worth endorsing. And also organize for direct action, because democracy is likely to be blocked for a few years.

They could also get money out of the primary process and that would have the largest impacts

You can attend local Democratic party meetings in your city. You can also vote in the primaries and you could also call Nancy Pelosi yourself.

Good news, everybody. I put in a quick call and made a few salient points. Nancy agreed with me on all of them and says she's reversing her decision.

even if I disagree with her sometimes I still wish her a full recovery

Why are you so invested in licking boots?

Ah the good ol WORK HARD GET NOTHING american dream

Even the username ↑ looks like a propaganda bot.

There is a seemingly, almost intentional obtuseness to internal criticisms of the DNC from folks on the part of Democrats.

Fundamental to why the right has been able to organize a fascist takeover of this nation is actions like this from the Democratic party. Fascism in this country wouldn't be ascendant if the DNC didn't rat-fuck Bernie, twice. Health care CEO's wouldn't be getting gunned down in the street if the DNC forced M4A instead of the corporate sellout of Obamacare in 2016. Trump would not have won if Democrats had focused their efforts and spent their political capitol on issues that would make a fundamental difference in peoples lived experience in the period of 2021-2024. We wouldn't be in this position if Democrats didn't slow walk the prosecution of Donald Trump, effectively sitting on their hands until an election year to start taking action.

The state of this country is a direct consequence of the managerial class politics, which is all that the DNC has come to represent in a post 2024 world. They enable and empower the ratchet effect that allows the rightwing to become more and more fascist, because they are only ever willing to be a lessor evil.

And the Democratic establishment fucking LOVED Clinton and still do. She lost to Trump. Your logic is perfectly sound if you just want to lose.

Yet they quickly jumped on board and never took a stand against him. They are lock step now, so just because he didn't get a warm welcome, they sure do love him now.

I've always wanted to ask how nice that sheriff was. I've read that he let you take visitors in his office and whatnot.

I mean, she no longer holds the title of House Speaker, but the idea that Jeffries is the leader is a joke. After Harris lost, NYT was interviewing Pelosi, not Jeffries. She didn't let Jeffries take over because she was abdicating power; she was deflecting criticism.

There are leaders and there are Leaders, there's also party positions wholly outside of Congress. The Minority or Majority Speaker in Congress is not necessarily the leader of the party.

AOCs competitor is very well liked, even by AOC, and the caucus is roughly cut in half. It's a vote, let's see what happens. Pelosi gave up the leader role, but that doesn't mean every chair is up for grabs.

My defense,if you can call it that, is that she's paying back a political favor to Gerry Collins who is running against AOC. That is the way the House and political favors work. You may not like it, but I assure you AOC does it to.

No. Just a realist in an unreal world.