In an amended SEC filing ahead of its IPO, Reddit warned potential investors that "...on March 18, 2024, Nokia Technologies sent us a letter indicating they believed that Reddit infringes certain of their patents. We will evaluate their claims." Nokia, of course, leaned into, ahem, patent licensing...
It's not mentioned in the filing, so we can only speculate.
...on March 18, 2024, Nokia Technologies sent us a letter indicating they believed that Reddit infringes certain of their patents. We will evaluate their claims.
This "article," if you can call it that, might as well have just been a tweet. There is 0 other relevant information like what the patents actually are.
It basically is a tweet. It's a quick post, which is designed for The Verge writers to write a quick thought or link to a story using a website they control instead of posting it on Elon's website.
Right but then why would I bother going to the verge anymore, when they link to a pay walled website? Why not go directly to that website? I am by no means advocating Twitter, but a tweet makes sense because it might reach an audience it normally wouldn't.
These comments are kind of silly. There are 0 details about the patient claim, but a bunch of people are picking sides based on how they feel about a brand name. Classic Lemmy.
They’ve been bought and sold to the point that all that’s left is their patent portfolio. Their current business strategy appears to be “patent troll”. They’ve been holding industry telecommunications methods hostage instead of negotiating fair use fees.
Why are we mad about an active tech company protecting their IP?
Patent trolls buy up more patents than any company could ever be able to use in actual products in order to make money sueing everyone under the sun or striking extortionate licensing deals.
Nokia Oyj is the part of Nokia that Microsoft didn't buy, and it is a telecom company that does its own RnD to this day, and is perfectly open to doing reasonable licensing deals. How tf does this make them a patent troll, unless this is over something dumb and frivolous, which we don't know yet?
I'll be ready to flip the second it comes out if this suit is BS.
But I'm initially siding with Nokia Oyj here because they have a decent track record of actually doing the legwork on their tech, advancing the science, and sharing that with the industry through sane licensing.
Also the company is one of the success stories of my country, so maybe I'm biased, but then that hasn't stopped me from hating exploitative pieces of shit like Rovio and Supercell.
It does kind of feel like the logo of a consultancy/legal/finance group to me. But I could also imagine this looking decent when embossed onto a phone...
I’m not rushing to pick a side until someone posts the actual patient claim. Both of these parties suck, and I’m not giving anyone the benefit of the doubt.
Thing is, if a patent applies to Reddit, there's a chance it applies to Lemmy or other boards as well. Unless it's very specific to Reddit alone, this is probably not a good thing.
Both sides suck here but I have to side with Reddit over patent trolls. Nokia, what a disgrace you are these days if you have to resort to patent trolling. You used to be cool. That said, if this hurts Reddit's IPO then I'll be happy anyways.
Enforcing a patent is not necessarily patent trolling. Is Nokia’s sole purpose to collect patent for things they have no intention or capability to create and sell? That’s the definition of a patent troll. Nokia doesn’t exist solely to collect patents and make their revenue by suing actual business.
We got people out here mad at shit they don’t even understand…
If you're enforcing a patent that would have been come up with other people in the same field, then the patent is invalid, many of us would consider going after people with an invalid patent -- patent trolling.
Patents are meant for UNIQUE ideas and things that nobody else would have come up with on their own. But increasingly they're being used for obvious ideas that thousands of other people also have around the same time, to lock out competition.