Trans Teen Hatches Nefarious Plot To Undergo Years Of Medical Treatments And Counseling To Win At Swimming
Trans Teen Hatches Nefarious Plot To Undergo Years Of Medical Treatments And Counseling To Win At Swimming
STOCKTON, CA—Cackling as the steps of the dastardly plan crystallized in her mind, local trans teen Brie Chandler told reporters Tuesday that she had hatched a nefarious plot to undergo years of medical treatments and counseling to win at swimming. “It’s oh, so simple: several years of sweet-talking...
Not just any swimming, but some amateur or extracurricular school event!
TERFs when I win a game of Battleship:
😂🤣😂
Everyone knows transitioning makes you clairvoyant, you damn cheat!
The ones that earn you grants and scholarships? The ones that can get you admission to good schools? Those ones that can help break a cycle of poverty that existed in your family for generations? Those meaningless old things!
This is the weakest of the arguments for trans rights. There's a reason they want everyone to focus on it.
We shouldn't be allowing them to frame the conversation around the one area where identifying as whatever you want actually affects other people.
It actually doesn't. Studies show that trans women perform on par with cis women in athletics. This wishy-washy attitude essentially amounts to "you can only participate if you lose"
i think the controversy really started when Fallon Fox started breaking people's skulls in MMA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallon_Fox
the one area where identifying as whatever you want actually affects other people.
Except, it doesn't, so you're literally taking the bigots' side here.
These people also never consider that they're measuring the wrong thing. If they're taking the position that the effects of testosterone from birth in trans M-to-F kids gives them an unfair advantage due to bone density and muscle mass, then they're failing to take into account that there are a number of natural health conditions that produce elevated testosterone levels in women as well.
I'm not saying this to be funny, but women with stubble especially around the chin often have elevated T levels, often due to PCOS. There truly are some women who are "built like a man" and they're not trans - at least certainly not in the way we use the term today. They're natural, their bodies just work differently.
Banning trans kids isn't going to level the playing field in the way they say they want to. Measuring things that testosterone affects like bone density would.
Yep. T level testing was a popular trans exclusionary test until the transphobes learned that there's significant overlap in t levels between trans women and cis women.
Edit: lol looks like we upset the transphobes
Most sports are dominated by people with genetic gifts. But having a little extra testosterone from a genetic quirk is a completely different thing than having extra testosterone because you were born with testes.
Yet the end result is the same, an advantage over those that don't have it. Why is one fair and one unfair?
Sport is arbitrary rules we decide. Some trans athletes are going to be better at some sports, not because of their trans status but because they work hard and train lots. It is just as unfair to exclude them in case another trans athlete has a genetic advantage, that most research says they don't have.
Not to mention the bigotry, the prejudice, the psychological trauma of existing in a world where people call you evil and an abomination and a cheat for merely wanting to play sports.
Pick your battles, people. Insisting that trans women be allowed to compete in women’s sports is just not a winning argument, even among people that might be willing to otherwise oppose other trans restrictions. All it does in reinforce anti-trans attitudes.
This isn’t some invented fiction. Here is a trans powerlifter that just came in and started shattering records.
Odd, here's women's records and the weightlifter in question isn't on this list: https://www.openpowerlifting.org/records/women So what are you really trying to say?
Let's just leave behind some human beings from being allowed to participate in life, why even let them be in society at all, maybe they should be sent away for the convenience of picking political battles
How is sports the only aspect of life? And even then, they are not blocked from participating, as they can complete with other cis-men in those divisions. It’s interesting, trans men don’t have this issue because they simply can’t compete with cis men. I guess they don’t get to participate in life by your definition?
Sometimes you make a decision in life that affects your future in a meaningful way. Becoming a trans is one of those things. Sadly there's no good solution to the problem it causes in sports right now so the only possible answer is to not have them in the competition.
They are not saying to leave them behind, and comparing this to not participating in life is an unfair exaggeration. The situation is far too complicated for that. It's not just about politics here, there's other people involved that would be put at a disadvantage, others that would abuse the situation to gain money, etc.
And yes, I'm well aware of the injustice being done to trans people on every possible level, and that needs to change, this battle itself though is just not the same.
*Edit: I'm reading further down that this "problem" it causes might not be as big as I heard it was in the media. So take this comment with that in mind if you will. It only proves the complexity of the issue though.
Aha, wait until she takes up chess, darts, and competitive crocheting... RIP cis women :'(
Haven't some particularly haenous talking heads on TV literally already said this? Perhaps not in directly declaratory language at someone, because that's begging for a defamation suit, though I have absolutely heard Republican scum make this exact accusation in the general case several times against trans people.
Wow, the
phrenologistsrace realiststransphobes fell for this hard.This was one of the Onion's more brilliant articles. Absolutely loved it. I showed it to someone who rants about trans girls in sports and they got quiet. The truly good Onion articles make the object of their satire instantly recognize the logical fallacies in their own argument and get uncomfortable.
The author of this article was laying in bed and thought, “AHA! I can set the internet on fire!”
I love it.
Unpopular opinion (on Lemmy and coming from a guy who doesn’t have an issue with trans people): Transpeople are people too and aren't going to just go die in a ditch because the thought of losing to one makes you upset.
I used to have strong opinions about this, but then I realised that I'm not trans, I'm not female, I'm not an athlete, and to be completely honest, I couldn't care less about women's sports. And judging by the fact that a women's premier league football ticket costs about £5 and the stadiums are mostly empty, most other people don't care either. Certainly less than seem to care about the sanctity of women's sports.
It's probably going to be more complex than a blanket yes or no, and will involve individual sports bodies doing things on a case-by-case basis.
Wait I thought people could be trans without medical treatments and counseling because gender identity is a construct and not reliant on one's secondary or primary sex characteristics but rather reliant on their decision to identify with a gender they were not assigned at birth. Like I get it is the onion, but I thought people who think you have to have gender dysphoria or medically transition are called "transmedicalists," and much like "terf" I'm fairly sure "transmedicalist" isn't a compliment.
I'm not trans though so I could be wrong, but this is how it was clearly described to me by a nonbinary individual, a trans man, and a trans woman, all of whom I am friends with and one of whom I was dating at the time, so if I misunderstand so do they, I didn't make it up myself.
It is true that you don't need medical treatments and counseling to be trans. However, specifically within the context of gendered sports, the places that do allow trans athletes to compete with other members of their gender tend to require testing of hormone levels. When I've seen trans people talk about the sports issue, they've been fine with this, often using it as an argument why it's OK for trans people to compete with cis people of the same gender. Most of the stories reactionaries are trying to scare people with are about trans kids who have undergone medical gender affirming care.
So, yeah, I think there's some nuance lost here, but given that it's satire with punchy writing, I don't think it's terf-level. But I'm cis and I'd be happy to be corrected.
Ah ok, that makes sense.
Should a trans woman be allowed to beat the shit out of a woman in a UFC fight? I'm not questioning this person's decision to transition, I'm questioning the rule that separates genders in sports (the UFC thing has happened and it resulted in a broken skull). If you have to separate genders for one sport then you have to do it for all.
Why don't you ask a woman fighting in the UFC? I'm sure you think you're white knighting for them but those women are tough as nails. They aren't death matches and all through my wrestling career if a woman wanted to wrestle they had to join the regular team. I wouldn't doubt a woman UFC fighter having a long history of competing with men.
if you have to separate genders for one sport you have to do it for all.
Nonsense. UFC and mini putt are not related.