I could also see LEM for Lunar Excursion Module, the technical name of the lunar lander during the Apollo missions (a nice nod to Apollo app). Also has the benefit of being similar to Lemmy.
Voyager is the name of the default testing instance for the Lemmy project AFAIK. Having two things in the Lemmy-verse called Voyager will be confusing.
Wefwef is nice for SEO and unique, so i don’t mind it, but like you said—i don’t know how to pronounce it.
My suggestion would be “Mooshuck”. Sounds fun, is easy to pronounce, doesn’t have any well-known project with that spelling, and means “little mouse” in Sanskrit. This would be keeping in line with Lemmy and Jerboa which are little rodents.
I quite like Voyager continuing Apollo’s space program theme.
Another option in tribute to Apollo is “Delphi”.
Delphi is the site of the Temple of Apollo and was an ancient sacred precinct and the seat of Pythia, the major oracle who was consulted about important decisions throughout the ancient classical world. The ancient Greeks considered the centre of the world to be in Delphi.
As well as the links to Apollo, Delphi’s history is of a community sanctuary and a central source of wisdom.
The term Delphi is more unique than Voyager so it will be more searchable and should be easier to secure a domain name.
The Temple of Apollo, was a major part of the Panhellenic religious sanctuary located in Central Greece at Delphi. The temple and sanctuary at large were dedicated to one of the major Greek deities, Apollo.
Within the ancient Greek world, Delphi was considered the center of the universe, marked by the omphalos, or "navel", of the Earth that was located in Apollo's sacred temple. The Temple of Apollo at Delphi was perceived as an incredibly sacred site, considered a major center of ancient Greek religious practice and belief as well as a place intimately connected to the gods.
The exterior of the temple was also decorated with metopes, with five major depictions of gods and heroes being victorious over monsters, a mirroring of Apollo's defeat of Python during the mythological founding of the Temple of Apollo at Delphi.
The priestesses of Apollo, known as the Pythia, served as the oracle for the Temple of Apollo at Delphi. Greeks and non-Greeks alike would go to the Temple of Apollo at Delphi from across the Mediterranean and beyond to consult the Pythia on a variety of different topics, ranging from the state level like the establishment of new colonies to the personal level like marriage, children, and health.
Wouldn't it be a problem that Delphi is a well established programming language? The name might sound weird/confusing to people who are familiar with it
It’s not easy to remember. I prefer not to have too many things on my HomeScreen, trying to find this thing via Spotlight is always frustrating. Certainly wouldn’t have this issue with Voyager.
I’m gonna vote for wefwef over voyager. It’s much more unique and googleable. Voyager is gonna turn up Star Trek and a bunch of other generic stuff. Go for something unique!!
I personally am down for the name change. Voyager sounds much more iconic and is easier to pass on verbally than wef wef. It’s also better to make such a change as early as possible to avoid confusion for newcomers.
I don’t like wefwef, mostly because of that (and how it looks like a sex term), but while Voyager sounds cool it has no uniqueness. And while it’s nice to reference Apollo, the entire design already does, the name doesn’t need to. That said I back “LEM” since it does relate, and also relates to Lemmy.
No, I like the name wefwef! It is a perfectly fine name, it's unique to your project, granting you immediate recogniza- and googlability, and honestly, I don't understand most people advocating for a change. God forbid we had an app or service name that was a bit fun and unique for once! No, let's change the project name just as it's getting popular, confusing everyone and hurting your Google rank, just to have another bland and boring name instead that's completely forgettable and shared by hundreds of other things! Are most of these commenters, like, 12, and still at an age where it's very very important that your friends perceive you as using only what's a child's idea of "cool" stuff? I honestly can't think of any other reason. Name it Awesome Monster App then!
So, no, in short keep it at wefwef! Lowercase and fun pronunciation and all! And for next year's April Fool's, announce a big name change, and then reveal that name to be "weewee", just to fuck with all the haters. Wefwef is the best app/service name in years!
Time to retcon a meaning for it now, if you're going to keep it. I'm really enjoying using it and the name is incidental, but I love a good invented mythology too.
Changing now would not be a good idea. There’s a bunch of Apollo users looking for a new home (I’m in this group) and we’re all hearing about how great wefwef is.
Changing the name risks confusing people and missing new users.
Functionality is what will keep people but having a better name, and establishing this as a spiritual successor to Apollo, will help get people through the door.
The proposed one is a bit cartoony, not sure how it would look like on real device though. It's okay to experiment with different kinds of Logos, corporations do it all the time.
I like wefwef it is unique, fitting and you already have brand requisition.
Voyager is fine but extremely generic and quite boring. You also have to fight for search results with a lot bigger and more famous players sharing the name.
I think a bigger concern would be that Voyager already exists as a Crypto App with a significant amount of downloads.
In the spirit of Apollo, other possible names could be Artemis, Soyuz, Phoebus, Orion, Helios, etc. There’s no shortage of space programs/deities to pick from.
My understanding was that Apollo was a reference to the moon missions of the same name, and thus, Voyager would be referencing Voyager 1 and 2, sticking with that space vibe. Was I looking at it wrong/misinterpreting it?
But yeah, the crypto thing is a bit of an issue, but I think that one, this being a web app, and two, it being a VERY different thing means that the likelihood of confusion is quite low, and those who do accidentally get the other one will instantly know something’s off. Just my take.
You’re correct. To quote Christian himself,
“ Reddit is kinda space themed -> app helps you explore Reddit -> spaceships help you explore space -> thus app is a spaceship -> Apollo is a cool spaceship name
I like the God of Knowledge answer too”
Artemis is the double-whammy as in Greek mythology she is the sister to Apollo, and the Artemis program is also the successor to the Apollo program; bringing human space exploration back to the moon.
Similarly Soyuz was the Soviet equivalent to the Apollo program, though I understand that might come with some unwanted political baggage.
Orion is also a Greek deity, and the Orion spacecraft is used in the current Artemis program.
Helios and Phoebus are other Greek equivalents of Apollo. (Other possibilities could be Ra, Utu(g), Amun, Mithra, etc.)
I also saw someone mention LEM (for lunar excursion module) which I think is genius, if not a bit confusing with lemmy, especially for folks new to the whole federated internet thing
If yes, maybe something to think about doing further down the track when there’s not a huge amount of migration. Every post directing new users to wefwef will become obsolete and so the app will be harder to find.
I think wefwef is a silly name and I’m surprised that so many people in the comment section like it, because I find the name to be cringeworthy (sorry).
But of course, I will still continue to use this app regardless of what it’s called, just like I still use DuckDuckGo as my search engine, despite it having a ridiculous name lol.
Having a silly and unique name helps the app in peoples memory retention. Imagine if it was edgy but forgettable. Nobody will remember it and it won't stand out amongst the multitude of lemmy apps being developed at the moment.
I respectfully disagree with you on the memorability of the name.
I would respectfully suggest that if someone hears the name of this app for the first time, and then had to mention it a week later, they might think “oh what was that silly name of the Lemmy app? Was is wepwep? wiffwaff?”… whereas I would find Voyager to be more memorable, and there isn’t confusion as to how it is spelled.
That being said, there is one area where I concede that wefwef would be a better name than Voyager, and that is SEO (search engine optimisation). If you type “wefwef” into Google (well I prefer to use DuckDuckGo lol), then you’ll find the web app on the first page, whereas searching “Voyager” will give you lots of Star Trek stuff to scroll past.
So if I were making the case for the name wefwef, I would argue the SEO aspect rather than the memorability aspect.
You could have the same reaction to other names, wefwef makes people for the wrong reaction and I don’t really want to sound like a dog when saying that name out loud, alright?
Honestly I don't understand this take. I mean we all just came from a site called "Reddit". How does that have anything to do with if we use it or not? And caring about if it's a "cool" name or not, and then suggesting something super generic and boring... seriously, how old are people who think that way? Are you all twelve, and worried about what your friends will think about you when you're using weirdly-named apps? Who would give a fuck?
And I want to make it clear that I don't just object to the argument of choosing another blander name, but to the the notion itself that having boring, unimaginative, derivative, bland and sanitized branded names somehow would be better than unique ones. How simple-minded and devoid of all fantasy and joy and frankyl, a sad life that must be to think that!
Well I honestly don’t understand your take lol. Tell me if I’m misunderstanding something, but you seem to be holding two contradictory views at the same time.
On one hand, you are saying that it doesn’t matter what the app is called. You point out that we previously used a site called ‘Reddit’ and that didn’t have anything to do if we used it or not. You insulted the people who care about the app name by suggesting that they might be 12 year olds who were worried what their friends might think……
And yet, at the same time, you also very strongly hold the view that the app name can’t be a boring/bland name. You went off on a rant about how anyone who does like a so-called “boring” name (well, boring according to you) must be “simple-minded and devoid of all fantasy and joy” and that these people must live sad lives…… But this contradicts your first point about how the name of the app doesn’t matter.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you seem to be criticising others for caring about the app name whilst simultaneously also caring about the app name yourself. So the next time you argue that an app name sounds too generic and boring, someone might reply “Are you twelve, and worried about what your friends will think about you when you're using an app with a boring name? Who would give a f***?”
What?? This is the second time I'm seeing "wefwef" and I swore it was a typo the first time I saw it. Plz don't tell me that's the name of the biggest Lemmy app...
I like WefWef. like someone else mentioned, it makes me think of a little puppy learning to growl or bark, lol. Mostly though, its6 unique, easy to type, and gloriously well suited to finding via search engines. If you google "wefwef", the top result is your app's Github project, and the next few results are about the app as well. If you change to something like "Voyager", theres an awful lot of competition for those search results. It'll get buried under results about the space project and Star Trek. On a personal level aside from that, I'd vote for staying wefwef myself.
I don't see anything wrong with wefwef, it just looks like a modern nonsense brand-word and easy to remember too. My wife commented that it reminded her of WOOF from the office
Gonna comment in case the upvotes don’t count, I’m really a fan of Voyager. Not a big deal if it were to stay Wefwef, but Voyager has more appeal to my ear. Either way, great app regardless of name.
Voyager and Lyre are both nice suggestions, but I don’t like either even close to as much as I like wefwef. As an aside, the vote bottons being the opposite colors is hilarious.
why would people care about the name that much? to me it sounds like a linux CLI command. I mean, "grep" is a funky word too... but that doesn't mean I won't use grep when I have to pipe text around in the CLI! what a funny notion, honestly.
... but, I do offer another series of suggestions:
Hubertos, the patron saint of hunters. In addition to linkages to a cure for rabies, he is the patron of hunters, which has fit with the lemmings and critters that we share online.
Muroidea is the name for the superfamily of rodents, which you can read more about here.
Artemis is another series of manned space flights from NASA.
Ulysses is another example. Add in it being a name of a mythological explorer, and it adds another layer.
Mushak: Ganesh, from the Hindu pantheon, rides a mouse. This mouse's name is Mushak according to some sects. As a divine mount, there's some fun pieces of lore and how this app is how Lemmy users can ride into knowledge of the world around them.
It's also completely boring, derivative, and not unique in ans way. There's hundreds of things called Voyager, from space probes over (space) ships to night clubs and mythological beings and... just no. Wefwef on the other hand is great, it's unique, it's fun, it's easily pronounceable, but most of all, it's memorable.
Another vote for a new name here. Voyager For Lemmy is good, but anything else also works. Recommending "WefWef" out loud to anyone is just silly, especially in other languages.
Maybe something like voyagerlemmy.com or voyagerfed.com? The current url uses .app as the extension so there's probably plenty of options for voyager alone.
I don't think should is the right word. I personally don't like the name much as it somehow sounds just off-putting to me (it doesn't read like a puppy sound, maybe because I am not a native English speaker). And there is clearly something to it as this is the only app where people are discussing changing the name. Even Jerboa seems to be safe from it even though the name sounds a bit weird.
I have no problem with wefwef (although, yes, if it was supposed to read like a puppy sound I didn't get that at all), but if you change it I would not go with Voyager since it is too generic. If you google that, you get lots of hits already (mostly NASA and Star Trek, on my end), so it may make it harder for people to find it?
But wouldn't that damage your.. brand recognition, so to speak? When someone doesn't know you've changed your name and therefore can't find you, they'll assume you don't exist anymore.
Nvm all that, they'll learn. ;)
Voyager sounds way, way better than Wefwef, plus it's in the same theme as Apollo, so that's great!
I honestly don’t care what it’s called. I have no idea what wefwef means or even how to pronounce it. I appreciate the work done to make it for us though.
I would love to have it as Voyager, because the app seems to be Apollo's spiritual successor so might as well embrace the identity.
Also, seeing that there are concerns that Voyager is taken by X or Y the simple addition of LM to the name should make distinct and free from any attachments. So:
In my experience, I had to go to look for the post that recommend it at least two times after I already liked the application just to go back here. I could not remember the name.
I'm not an English native speaker so it might be that.
Love the app but admittedly don’t care for the current name (great work and thank you BTW). Voyager is a great! Something like that might well speed adoption.
Ya, when talking to mates IRL it sounded as if I am peddling some drug and not a lemmy client to them XD. I think WefWef can be an Easter egg type of thing where the dev can play around with the idea in the future. But it is too discouraging for casual reddit users.
I like Interstellar more. It fits the fediverse because every instance is its own "galaxy" which can be "lightyears" away in the physical world, but like the movie, we're all connected through the "dimension" of the Internet.
It's a PWA (progressive web app). If you open the site on Chrome, then go to the Settings -> Install page, it should show some instructions on how to add the page to your home screen. Upon doing so, the next time you open it from the newly added icon, it should open in its own window looking like an app as opposed to a tab on Chrome
Voyager I think fits nicely for a Kbin app. Especially since the whole idea behind the platform is it is decentralized and federated. When you think about it, what are you doing, but exploring that open web -taking a voyage.
I can see tech news sites writing about it… “Lunar has taken the App Store by storm, securing its position as the most popular Lemmy app among users worldwide”… 😅