Trump vows to keep talking about criminal cases despite prosecutors pushing for protective order
Trump vows to keep talking about criminal cases despite prosecutors pushing for protective order
Donald Trump is blasting special counsel Jack Smith and vowing to continue talking about his criminal cases even as prosecutors seek a protective order to limit the evidence that Trump and his team can share.
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Trump will continue to play grab ass with the fuck-around gang until he finds the exact line in the sand that guarantees he gets held in pre-trial detention. If he gets thrown in the slammer while awaiting trial he will claim he is a political prisoner, and if they don't stick him there he will do everything in his power to commit soft-treason through his cult. Everything surrounding Trump is, and always has been a lose/lose situation for this country.
Until he is made to suffer serious consequences for his violent petulence and penchant for authoritarianism things will never move forward in any meaningful way. He is a distraction that, when all is said and done, will have stagnated the progress of this country for a decade at minimum.
Edit: Accidentally a word
Everything surrounding Trump is, and always has been a lose/lose situation for this country.
It's like the whole US is scared of a scar so they keep delaying the op to get the tumor out.
Although sitting in a cell is my favored outcome for him for doing this, I would love it if the judge just barred him from using electronic devices. Can you imagine how pissed off he'd be?
Cool.
I hear the DC jail cells are quite comfortable according to the chuds he sent to kill the VP and other congress critters.
Can't wait for the singalong Maga inmates album with all the hits - God bless America, YMCA.
He's testing to see how far he can push. But he's going to find out Jack Smith pushes back a hell of a lot harder.
I fucking love that guy. As an aspirational lawyer, what a role model!
The best thing about him is that I don't have a clue what his politics are. He's worked for Democrats and Republicans, and he has never, as far as I'm aware, said a single goddamn word in public about his political opinions. Nothing. And his prosecutorial record is similarly impossible to use as a barometer for his politics. It shows that he's extremely good at his job, and nothing else.
Gotta respect a guy like that. Partisan to one thing and one thing only: Serving justice.
It might just be copium, but jack smith is starting to give me some hope and take the edge off my jaded political nihilism.
I think we're really gonna need a movie off this. "Jack Smith: Special Prosecutor". it kind of sounds like... a jack ryan type spy thriller... and it practically writes itself. (only action being Jack running a triathalon.)
Especially after how milquetoast Garland has been. But that may have been to remove any notion of political retribution. Though they scream about it anyway.
And he will continue doing this until someone finally starts treating him like any other person doing the exact same thing and throw his ass in jail for it on the first violation.
Trump does this because he's spent 77 years of his life suffering exactly no consequences for his words or actions. And for the past 8 years, he's been staring down our entire legal system as if to say "I'll do what I want, what are you going to do about it", and the answer he's been getting is "Nothing". His base has been funding his legal defense and paying off what few token fines he's had to pay.
Why shouldn't he keep doing this? He's approaching his NINTH DECADE on this planet doing it with resounding success, and nobody seems to be willing to actually draw AND DEFEND the line in the sand. If they actually want him to stop with the attacks, the one and only option that will work is to throw his ass in jail until the trial.
And if they're not willing to do that instead of tiptoeing around the issue, politely requesting that he stop, and wondering why nothing ever changes, then they need to suck it up and deal with it, because he's not going to stop. Jail his ass until the trial(s), or accept that this is the reality for the next several years.
Part of the reason why nothing ever changes is the people who want to see him jailed for his many crimes - including the crimes being committed while in the middle of actively getting in trouble for the same crimes - carry on with their lives as if everything is normal.
If Trump were (rightly) jailed months before trial because of his bullshit, his base would likely go full revolution domestic terrorism mode. Fox news would blast the horn of Gondor and every red hat would start marching to the beating the drum of civil war (hint, many already are). These people have proven they'll happily risk throwing their lives away in federal jail to make this happen.
All laws and actions aren't actually governed by anyone but the people. We are allowing this to happen by not shutting down the economy and forcing the wealthy to act in our best interest and not theirs. From Trump to wages and healthcare its the exact same answer. They do what they get away with and if we don't stop them they'll just push harder.
I'm not trying to pass the buck, or victim blame, or suggest that standing on a corner with a sign is the answer. But the right wing are super organized and have a base that's ready to go nuclear against their own country for any reason because they want to get their way (they often don't even know their way, just enemy bad), and other political groups simply don't have this kind of energy and commitment - which is fair because deprogramming a cult member is exceptionally hard, and isn't permanent, and the cult is also on several 24 hour channels.
In the end though, if we have two groups of people who want a drastically different government... maybe splitting the country up is what should happen.
It kind of makes sense.
Hear me out.
He knows he's screwed. He's got 78 counts against him.
At this point, the only thing that will make the federal charges go away is to win the presidency. The time to play it safe is over.
The best bet right now might be to rally the base and get the GOP nomination. You might get clobbered in the general election, but that's a 2024 problem.
Then you have the constitutional crisis of a sitting president with a state prison sentence, but he doesn't really care about the well-being of the country, so that's moot to a raging narcissist.
Fucking hell.
At this point, the only thing that will make the federal charges go away is to win the presidency
it blows my mind that the people rallying behind him know this, and are OK with it
Constitutionally it's pretty clear his sentence would be suspended until his term as President is over. A president elected from jail isn't a constitutional crisis. A president elected who's committed a coup before, that's a problem.
“That’s what they’re doing. ‘I’m sorry, I won’t be able to go to Iowa today. I won’t be able to go to New Hampshire today,’” he said. “Because I’m sitting in a courtroom on bull—-.”
The crowd cheered and broke into chants of “bull——!”
They’re caracitures of themselves at this point.
reminds me of that Ken Patti twitter post:
I forced a bot to watch over 1,000 hours of Trump rallies and then asked it to write a Trump rally of its own. Here is the first page.
Arby's food is fine to eat
😂
Great jobs. Tall jobs. Steve Jobs.
I don't know why, but this line got me.
I think because I can't tell if it's AI, or Trump. AI is good at melting in things that sound like they belong but don't (Steve Jobs), but given the original material it learned from it might actually be faithfully riffing on the source.
It got the repetitive short sentences that amount to nothing down.
So he's gonna keep intimidating witnesses and the judge and prosecution. Great. If he was poor and trying this shit he'd be locked up yesterday.
He would have been locked up on Jan 6th.
or a minority
I know that Jack Smith, and Fanni Willis, are too professional to be bothered by such inflammatory remarks, but it can’t be a smart move to attack the people who are writing indictments. Not all the donations in the world can make up for what he will face in prison.
I wonder when the big republican donors will give up throwing money at the problem. A twice impeached, twice loser of the general election, 3 indictments so far and DeSantis fighting shadows and losing. I'd just save my money for the midterms
The really big donors are either investors in trump already, and getting hit with the sink cost fallacy or shopping elsewhere for their politicians
Honestly, I can’t imagine what they’re going through.
And I doubt very much either of them aren’t bothered.
No amount of professionalism will keep you from feeling it. They are professionals, and they hide it well… but they still have feelings and it still hurts. (And I assume the threats by his thugs make them angry and scared,)
I hope he does. He will violate the order and be thrown in jail until trial. That would be phenomenal.
Honestly you could predict that man more accurately than the weather.
He keeps going on about an secret cabal trying to take him down, and he's right there is one, it's him.
He's just doing what he always does: talk as much trash about how he's not afraid and harassing the opposition, but I guarantee that if the order goes through, he'll get very vague very fast. Bullies are always a bunch of talk until the real muscle comes in.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
In the early voting state of New Hampshire, Trump assailed Smith as a “thug prosecutor” and a “deranged guy” a week after being indicted on felony charges for his efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the run-up to the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
The former president lobbed the insults at Smith just days after the Department of Justice asked a judge to approve a protective order stopping Trump from publicly disclosing evidence.
In the four-count indictment filed against Trump last week, the Justice Department accused him of orchestrating a scheme to block the peaceful transfer of power.
He was told by multiple people in trusted positions that his claims were false, prosecutors said, but he spread them anyway to sow public mistrust about the election.
Trump, who is also facing charges in Florida and New York, is gearing up for a possible fourth indictment, in a case out of Fulton County, Georgia, over alleged efforts by him and his allies to illegally meddle in the 2020 election in that state.
Trump, who has portrayed the investigations as politically motivated, said they are forcing him “to spend time and money away from the campaign trail in order to fight bogus made-up accusations and charges.”
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Good bot
He knows that he's not going to see consequences no matter what he does.
Yep, until something actually happens he will continue to do this
I've seen nothing to indicate that he will ever encounter consequences.
He's confident. Hopefully his confidence is misplaced.
He knows that he’s not going to see consequences no matter what he does.
I'm starting to feel like I know that too.
Let him keep talking until the court sees no other way than to lock him up and take away his phone to prevent further damage.
^Don't forget these! These Republicans (16) tried to overthrow elections
Government: "Hey, Trump wants to try this case in the media, which will negatively impact the ability of the court to maintain a fair trial. This is one of the reasons that the court should issue a protective order."
Trump: "THAT'S RIGHT, I'M DOING IT RIGHT NOW!"
The two-tiered justice system is a freaking joke. I was taught my entire life that we are all equal under the law (yeah, I know). Anyone else, not rich/white, would be behind bars already awaiting his trial. trump just continuing to damage the country.
The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread
- Anatole France
Keep talking. I’m sure it’ll get him to jail quicker if he starts to leak info about the discovery and witnesses…
He already did. He made comments about Pence with quotes from his testimony.
Trump jail any% speedrun, lets gooooooo
I wonder if Summoning Salt will make a video about it.
I mean, if he WANTS to continue violating release orders...
I would expect Trump to be as effective as Darrell Brooks in a courtroom, so the same outside of one.
is it because he has the 1st amendment right to do so
He was first charged with being a Russian asset. Then he was charged with withholding aid to Ukraine over some aleged business dealings of the Bidens'. Then he was charged with keeping classified documents after leaving office. Now he's charged with inciting an aleged insurrection. Interesting..