People overestimate the percentage of immigrants in their country
People overestimate the percentage of immigrants in their country
translation: There are people conjuring thoughts like "I've seen one too many brown people".
Also unsurprising where the sentiment is coming from:
srcs:
- https://www.ipsos.com/en/perils/perils-perception-prejudice-and-conspiracy-theories-0
- https://ourworldindata.org/data-insights/many-people-overestimate-the-percentage-of-immigrants-in-their-country
More imbecility (from the same src):
Argentina as usual being two racists in a trenchcoat pretending to be white
How do people in Japan think that 10% of the population is foreign!?
I guess Argentina makes a bit more sense - except that not many people are trying to get to Argentina. That sounds like Argentina though.
Argentina have a lot of immigration from Perú, Bolivia and Paraguay, but the important part, I think, is that Milei campaign were pretty much "illegal immigrants are destroying our country" and proposing a lot of shit that already exists, like background checks to get work and studying permits.
A lot is apparently not that many, and Argentina doesn't need migrants to destroy everything, the extremely racist middle class and other European migrants already did that.
I assume it's the same in most areas - humans are really susceptible to sampling bias and if you live in an urban area, you're going to see a higher number of immigrants or foreigners. Plus, in Japan specifically, there's currently a big backlash against tourists fucking with people's daily routines, so I'm sure people mentally think there must be hordes of foreigners constantly invading the country.
Interesting that Argentina has the largest disparity here, actually. I would have expected it to be the US, given the rhetoric.
how do people in the US think Muslim folk make up 22% of the population!? My guess was like 4-5% and I still overshot by a lot.
I think the issue is that most people live in cities, where populations tend to me more diverse. Then most polls probably also end up disproportionately asking cityfolk. So the polls ask people who live in areas with disproportionate numbers of immigrants (relative to non-urban parts of the country), and they forget how many non-immigrants are outside the cities.
Swiss: about a third?
Real: 40%
Japan what the hell? When I'm there I usually go hours without seeing another white person, depending on where I'm at.
They would have immigrants primarily from other parts of asia most likely
They get a lot of workers from places like Indonesia
Who are all the people immigrating to Australia?
Skilled Family Humanitarian All permanent migrants(b) 1 India 356,100 China (c) 133,000 Iraq 62,400 India 439,700 2 England 197,300 India 81,900 Afghanistan 30,700 China (c) 334,900 3 China (c) 196,500 England 79,700 Myanmar 21,100 England 277,500 4 Philippines 103,200 Philippines 64,000 Syria 20,900 Philippines 167,400 5 South Africa 101,300 Vietnam 61,500 Iran 17,300 South Africa 118,200 6 Australia (d) 65,300 Thailand 34,400 Sudan 12,300 Vietnam 82,400 7 Malaysia 52,000 United States of America 27,300 South Sudan 7,000 Australia (d) 75,900 8 Sri Lanka 48,300 Indonesia 21,000 Pakistan 6,600 Iraq 72,700 9 Korea, Republic of (South) 40,700 Afghanistan 18,900 Thailand 5,800 Malaysia 69,200 10 Pakistan 39,000 Korea, Republic of (South) 18,700 Ethiopia 5,700 Sri Lanka 67,700 The above is from https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/people-and-communities/permanent-migrants-australia/2021
Looks like all the British are a problem
We've got people from all the continents, but mostly Asia.
Earlier this year at work each team put out a flag for each team member, and across like 100 flags there was surprisingly little repetition besides predictably China and India. Australia was maybe in 5th place.
My team has 15 people and we joked that our only Australian was a diversity hire.
We do software development in case you didn't guess yet.
We have cities in germany where "5.5%" really doesn't paint the right picture. I've recently been to one where most shops had signs i can't read and more muslims than i saw in Turkey or elsewhere. Seeing or hearing (a) german was a rare exception. And this is really no exaggeration.
Of course if you take all the rural areas into the equation, where usually very few are, you might see the 5% in toto, but in the cities and especially the cores? No way.
Interesting that Canada wasn't included (at about 20%). Wonder how/why they picked those countries.
What share of the population do you think are immigrants?
Where does “I don’t care” register?
Yeah, same here, zero fucks given, they're people, let them move where they want. The upside, if I dont like it I can fuck off.
who in australia thinks we have 20% muslims? we probably dont even have 20% christians
Pauline Hanson voters ?
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Apart from a couple of countries, the percentages are small. The graph is distorted as it's not showing the full 100%
Looks like most people, in most countries, are pretty close to accurate.
Yeah as much as I love to call people out for their racist bullshit, the results are surprisingly close to the mark. I was expecting the gap to be much wider. At least for the English speaking countries.
This does not count Ukrainians for Poland though, even for 2022 before war there were much more of them than 2%, possibly as many as 3 million and that went up in years included here.
Yep, that's true, the latest census was from 2021, and the figure was 3.69%.
Probably the figures weren't available to Ipsos at the time, despite the publishing date :/? Idk..
That's different question though on the census, about nationality of Polish citizens. Most of numbers of minorities with citizenship in Poland are Polish minorities who were born in Poland. Like Silesians who are not even officially considered minority and still half million of them wrote that in (in reality there's at probably around a million of them since once the census bureau included them despite government not wanted to admit them at all). And even let's say Polish Germans, Belorussians and Ukrainians (at least those 80000 mentioned in this census) are also living here for generations due to how frequently borders changed in last two centuries.
Polish state is also relentlessly engaging in polonisation of minorities since 1918.