I mean the frustration is real, but the channels are what are accused of being engineered.
The don't vote and protest vote crowds are basically purpose built to make it as hard as possible for America to even slow itself down, let alone begin reversing course.
"I have serious objections to the major legacies of discrimination and failures to address poverty in this country! Let's take the exact actions that make it more likely for power to end up in the hands of the people who think the problem is we're not doing enough of that!"
That is the narrative people accuse Russia and China of spreading, and it's hardly a coincidence that this crescendos in exactly two times, 1) just before an election, and 2) just after a major consequence comes down as a result of the election that was meddled with.
I'm pretty sure that at least at the Old Place, despair-trolling is very much a thing,
Right-wing boiler-room operations, Putin's troll farms, and independent dick heads have lots of reasons to sow apathy and despair.
The don’t vote and protest vote crowds are basically purpose built to make it as hard as possible for America to even slow itself down, let alone begin reversing course.
im not voting for the red genociders or blue genociders, im not participating in your little clown show of a 'democracy' you got here in the USA
Are you discussing ways of fixing your political system in your third spaces? Are you organizing grassroots political movements that want to break the status quo and the class wars? Or are you just antagonizing everyone on the internet over a zero-sum choice you made up in your head? Or maybe you're just agitating because you find it funny? Either way, you are not contributing positively to this issue, and your tribalism shows.
Didn't the "vote for Genocide Joe he's the lesser of two evils" win last time? How's that going for the votées?
Better than the alternative.
Well he's one of the most productive presidents in modern history even in spite of the congressional odds stacked against him, so pretty well all things considered.
How are all those judges that Trump got to appoint because of the pretentious assholes who insist on calling Biden "Genocide Joe" doing?
Why he looks like french Lenin?
He's a beatnik
For those that are curious, this is possible because the US has monetary sovereignty in a fiat currency. This means that the federal government is able to allocate literally trillions of dollars more than the annual budget without harming the economy in any way, because a vast majority of US debt (and deficit) is to the US federal government.
It brings up arguments for MMT (Modern Monetary Theory) which is one of the scariest boogeymen Republican leadership has ever heard of.... So you know it's probably fire and a very good option for future US. It's been years but Unfucking The Republic did an episode I really liked on it that could probably use a revisit.
Thanks for the podcast recommendation! I've been needing more things to listen to during work
It's a bogeyman because it's shit nonsense economics. It's a one way ticket to hyperinflation.
Well they can fiat me a few bucks. I need it more than some douchebag in Jerusalem.
What countries AREN'T on fiat currency.
Every country I know about has a fiat currency, but the monetary sovereignty bit is also important. Governments within the EU don't have monetary sovereignty, and therefore are limited by taxation. The EU as a whole could do the same thing, because they are the body that controls the Euro.
If you talk about currencies that are backed in gold, then none. The last country to abolish the Gold standard was Switzerland at some point in the 1990s.
Absolutely spot on. This video explains this very well.
Israel has enslaved the US taxpayer to their genocidal stormtroopers. The lines are drawn.
Enslaved? Afaik the US government has willingly funded Israel as part of their strategy for years.
And not only are you getting that twisted, you're also trivializing slavery while villifying a group for something they did not do.
I have no stake in this war, but I do want to point out that your choice of words is very inaccurate and inappropriate.
bro, do you know how much of the US govt is jewish and/or zionist?
if you say anything criticizing them, AIPAC will donate tons of money to your opponent.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1717700125512913232
The Senate just UNANIMOUSLY adopted a resolution condemning pro-Palestine student protesters as "in solidarity with Hamas" and anti-semitic. The resolution calls to "fully and completely support Israel" in its war on Gaza
Everyone from Bernie Sanders to Rand Paul voted for this
There I was, thinking people on Lemmy might me smarter than on Reddit... Regarding most comments, not just yours.
If anything Lemmy is even worse. At least on Reddit you could find niche subs where uninformed or objectively stupid comments would be ruthlessly downvoted and it was only the big subs where one would encounter the idiot masses with their mob mentality.
Lemmy doesn't have any niche subs like that, at least not yet, or not that I'm aware of. Accordingly, the signal to noise ratio here sucks. The gibbering idiot masses almost entirely drown out the few intelligent, well-informed and thoughtful comments there are.
The Israeli disinformation and social media battalions are out in force and moving into decision roles on platforms. I was banned for telling a troll I hope when karma finds him he remembers his cheering of children dying. That was a ban for me....seriously horrible people.
This is the reason I left the other website.
Why does Israel need the money? They have one of the worlds best trained and equipped armies in the world. They have state of the art technology and they are fighting an irregular gerillas armed with rpg and home made rockets.
The IDF doesn't want to risk the lives of their own soldiers, so they prefer to sacrifice thousands of children instead. Sending in a ground force of occupiers would likely minimize civilian deaths, but it would lead to many more Israeli soldiers losing their lives. That's why they prefer artillery attacks. Palestinian children are expendable compared to mandatory Israeli conscripts.
That's how you know that even the Israelis don't agree with this war. This would be like if Bush hesitated to invade Afghanistan because of how much shit would hit the fan when coffins started coming back and Americans started demanding to know why US soldiers should be dying for the sake of...well at that point it actually just was straight up a militarized manhunt for one guy so...
They don't need it, we just want to give it so we have a reason to buy more.
And yet... Nothing happens... 🤷🏼♂️
It's funny because people now are way more depressed than during the literal constant wars in europe. Just a few years ago, we had nothing but small sporadic conflicts, yet people still screamed that we're all doomed. Makes you wonder doesn't it?
Remember, the difference between propaganda and information is does it serve US interests.
The only truly bipartisan topic in American Politics is that the Defense budget always goes up.
lezgo
Huh?
There are 240 hostages being held by psychopaths.
Israel is engaged in ground operations to free those hostages because that's what they've been forced into doing by Hamas.
If there is some technology that Israel can deploy that will make them able to free the hostages while inflicting fewer civilian casualties, do you want them to have that?
They aren't going to leave those hostages in the underground lairs of Hamas. They are going in there with whatever capability is available to them. If the US doesn't supply military aid, they are still going in there to free the hostages. With the aid the operation may take less time and result in fewer civilian casualties.
So given that the IDF is going to free the hostages no matter what people on the internet scream about it, do you want that operation to inflict more civilian casualties without US aid or fewer civilian casualties with the US aid?
Would you rather more Palestinian civilians die just so you can make self-righteous statements on the internet condemning Israel for doing something they have been forced to do by Hamas?
They could do a hostage exchange for the thousands of Palestinian hostages Israel holds captive
Nah, they rather just add a few more thousand murders to the >5000 Palestinians they already murdered in the last few years.
And if it's children, all the better according to some people in the Israeli government.
Watch out OP, don't you know that if you criticize the government in any way with a D as president you're basically a white supremacist neo-Nazi?
Just because the republican party is a cult doesn't mean the democrat party is. That's called projection. Most democrats I know will tell you that Biden is a senile old shitsack who never should have been president except the alternative was the XXL facist umpaloompa.
Just because the republican party is a cult doesn't mean the democrat party is.
you need to help phlubbadubba
Democrats don't fall in line like idiots. The still criticize their government.
If you criticize the few good/decent policies that are being passed/proposed, maybe. But at least from what I've seen, especially online, Biden and any other (D) being pushed on the people aren't seen as some savior. In fact I would argue almost the opposite. I think many Democrats see Biden and the rest of the moderates being passed off as Democrats as simply the lesser of two evils.
Likewise, just because a candidate has an (R) next to their name doesn't automatically make them evil. Their public stance and proposed policies are what make 90+% of them evil. I couldn't give two shits what letter appears next to Trump, Desantis, McConnell, etc. They're not bad people because they run under the Republican party, they're bad people because they're very explicitly against Americans that can't afford to pay them enough to pretend to care. Donald Trump almost ran as a Democrat years before he actually ran as a Republican and guess what? He's the same asshole either way that never would have gotten my vote.
So yes, if you agree with white supremacist neo-Nazi policies and ideals, or disagree with policies intended to defeat white supremacist neo-Nazi ideals, I will most certainly assume that you are a white supremacist neo-Nazi. This honestly shouldn't be that difficult to understand. And that honestly makes me think you're simply a troll but I guess I'll take the bait. In case it's not perfectly obvious by now, fuck Biden. But fuck white supremacist neo-Nazis more. Like for real, it would not be difficult at all to get a fuckton of "Democrats" to vote (R) if y'all could put up some half-ass decent candidates instead of the backwater scum y'all currently idolize. But instead of doing that and actually running candidates that stand by the true conservative ideology (what ever happened to sticking up for personal rights and small government?) most candidates (Democrats and Republicans alike) only stand by whatever will gain them the most.
I would even go so far to say that I would probably fall more under the old conservative ideology with some liberal tendencies, but I will NOT support anyone that wants to disenfranchise, discriminate, and take away personal liberties. I'm not LGBTQ+, I'm not trying to get an abortion, I don't have kids to worry about schools or lunches; I'm a straight white cis male with a Christian background that would largely be personally unaffected by any of the current Republican stances, but I do have at least a tiny bit of empathy and that's enough to see that just because someone isn't the same as me doesn't make them any less human than me. To suggest anything else is simply fucked up and evil. AND goes againstliterally everything in my Christian upbringing. So given the choice of supporting the modern Christo-fascist, or voting for literally anyone else provided they have some principles and empathy, I know who's getting my support every time without a doubt.
Likewise, just because a candidate has an ® next to their name doesn’t automatically make them evil
Counter argument: Anyone who willingly associates with the Republican party in 2023 evokes the "If you see a table with ten nazis and willingly join them, you have a table of eleven nazis" saying. Anyone who's willingly identifying as a Republican in 2023 is some combination of stupid and evil.
The rest of your post is fine.
Edit: made the same typo, twice.
